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nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 2 @ 5:02 PM ET
Like I said I don't want to trade him, but out of all of the core he has the best trade value right now.

Something has to change. You can't run it back with Zib, Trouba, Panarin and Kreider all at their current cap hits.

Would prefer Trouba gone but just don't see another team doing it

Free agency is less than a month away so trying to transition from another bummer ending to offseason talk lol

- TPC


Much rather move zib or trouba then him
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 2 @ 5:03 PM ET
True but I was saying if you add his cap hit to the potential 5 million leftover cap space you will have then you can add a true impact player

Trust me would rather just keep him and move Trouba or Zib. That would be ideal

- TPC

Here is the free agent list:
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents

After you get past Stamkos, Reinhart and Guentzel, who moves the needle? Necas would require a trade, which isn't happening.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 5:04 PM ET
True but I was saying if you add his cap hit to the potential 5 million leftover cap space you will have then you can add a true impact player

Trust me would rather just keep him and move Trouba or Zib. That would be ideal

- TPC


No you cant. You essentially just break even. A guy like Marshassault is gonna get about what Kreider is getting right now. If you trade a Kreider to sign a Marsh, its essentially a push.

At the very least youre resigning Schneider, who will probably get like 3m per bridge deal. Then you got 2 RW spots, 1 LW spot and 2 LD spots and you have approximately a whopping 11m to do it.
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Jun 2 @ 5:05 PM ET
True but I was saying if you add his cap hit to the potential 5 million leftover cap space you will have then you can add a true impact player

Trust me would rather just keep him and move Trouba or Zib. That would be ideal

- TPC

Only thing is he’s not really a problem as much as zib/panarin/trouba. Paid less than them and generally shows up in the playoffs so honestly feel like that just creates more holes/issues
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Jun 2 @ 5:08 PM ET
True but I was saying if you add his cap hit to the potential 5 million leftover cap space you will have then you can add a true impact player

Trust me would rather just keep him and move Trouba or Zib. That would be ideal

- TPC


The question is would we be able to win a cup even with trading kreider and doing something big with the cap space? We would still have those huge dead weight contracts in Trouba and Zib on the team, and I don't think we're ever winning a cup with Zib as our 1C. So it's not really worth it in my mind, especially since krieder is a great value contract and usually shows up in the playoffs.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 5:08 PM ET
Only thing is he’s not really a problem as much as zib/panarin/trouba. Paid less than them and generally shows up in the playoffs so honestly feel like that just creates more holes/issues
- Mtlca66

I agree don't want to move him. Drury has to do something though to break up the core a bit. You can't just run it back
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 5:10 PM ET
The question is would we be able to win a cup even with trading kreider and doing something big with the cap space? We would still have those huge dead weight contracts in Trouba and Zib on the team, and I don't think we're ever winning a cup with Zib as our 1C. So it's not really worth it in my mind, especially since krieder is a great value contract and usually shows up in the playoffs.
- t-dawg

I am just trying to get the create thoughts going, I am done being sad over this ending lol
Mtlca66
New York Rangers
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 12.31.2007

Jun 2 @ 5:11 PM ET
I agree don't want to move him. Drury has to do something though to break up the core a bit. You can't just run it back
- TPC

Agreed though I think if that is the only option to truly break up the core it’s not one I would take cuz like t-dawg said the other dead contracts are still here and don’t know how we make them show up after April
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 5:11 PM ET
Here is the free agent list:
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents

After you get past Stamkos, Reinhart and Guentzel, who moves the needle? Necas would require a trade, which isn't happening.

- airjan23

May need to test the trade market if you missed out on a Guentzel

I doubt it would ever happen but not sure what else Drury can do
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 2 @ 5:12 PM ET
Here is the free agent list:
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents

After you get past Stamkos, Reinhart and Guentzel, who moves the needle? Necas would require a trade, which isn't happening.

- airjan23

You could use a debrusk
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 2 @ 5:17 PM ET
May need to test the trade market if you missed out on a Guentzel

I doubt it would ever happen but not sure what else Drury can do

- TPC


Zadorov or a Chycrun trade
t-dawg
New York Rangers
Joined: 06.24.2022

Jun 2 @ 5:21 PM ET
I am just trying to get the create thoughts going, I am done being sad over this ending lol
- TPC


Very fair, we're all processing this latest L of a postseason in our own ways.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
Zadorov or a Chycrun trade
- nyrangers2


Zadorov wants like 6m per, no thanks.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
I think with 2m retained, a team would be interested.
- aecliptic

Just curious.. would you want to keep him if he was making 2mil less?
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 5:50 PM ET
Just curious.. would you want to keep him if he was making 2mil less?
- LFS


I think 6m per for a 30 year old, 2nd pairing defenseman is pretty on par with the market.

The thing is were fortunate to have Schneider, hes shown he and Miller can be a solid pairing for the future of this franchise and he needs a new contract.

With the current cap situation were in and what I think is a needed in a shake up, Id still move on from Trouba even if he was making 6m. If we didnt have Schneider, Im not sure Id still feel that way.
way out west
Joined: 12.30.2008

Jun 2 @ 5:53 PM ET
Florida had I believe only 4 guys in their line last night ' up that they drafted. Florida obviously made some good trades but did pick up guys that teams didn’t really want or couldn’t protect. The rangers have to do their homework with what’s out there whether it’s in the nhl or ahl. Big off season to say the least
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 6:01 PM ET
Florida had I believe only 4 guys in their line last night ' up that they drafted. Florida obviously made some good trades but did pick up guys that teams didn’t really want or couldn’t protect. The rangers have to do their homework with what’s out there whether it’s in the nhl or ahl. Big off season to say the least
- way out west


This is why I say there some decent quality out there with Marshassault, Stephenson, Duchene, Toffoli, Necas but were in a really tight spot.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 6:33 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/5197420

Theres no telling what will ultimately happen, but this is me trying to be halfway realistic with how Id like the off-season to look.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 2 @ 6:37 PM ET
I am in full TJ mode already
- TPC



Speaking of TJ, where is our little fireball of optimism??

Hopefully he isnt hanging n the garage with his brother.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 6:41 PM ET
Speaking of TJ, where is our little fireball of optimism??

Hopefully he isnt hanging n the garage with his brother.

- Brukie


Probably watching replays of 94.
banger94
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.11.2024

Jun 2 @ 6:49 PM ET
Probably watching replays of 94.
- aecliptic

I am sure they are avoiding this place because they know they were wrong. I’m not knocking them though because they were following their heart/gut. We all would have been happy if the rangers won. But if they come in here and say nothing needs to change, then…
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 2 @ 6:56 PM ET
Like I said I don't want to trade him, but out of all of the core he has the best trade value right now.

Something has to change. You can't run it back with Zib, Trouba, Panarin and Kreider all at their current cap hits.

Would prefer Trouba gone but just don't see another team doing it

Free agency is less than a month away so trying to transition from another bummer ending to offseason talk lol

- TPC


No. Kreider will retire having only ever been a Ranger and will be the last to ever wear 20 doing so. Would be nice to cement that with a Cup.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 2 @ 6:58 PM ET
No you cant. You essentially just break even. A guy like Marshassault is gonna get about what Kreider is getting right now. If you trade a Kreider to sign a Marsh, its essentially a push.

At the very least youre resigning Schneider, who will probably get like 3m per bridge deal. Then you got 2 RW spots, 1 LW spot and 2 LD spots and you have approximately a whopping 11m to do it.

- aecliptic


Not too hard to do, IF those wing spots are taken up by Rempe, Othmann and Perreault and a D spot by Jones.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 7:00 PM ET
No. Kreider will retire having only ever been a Ranger and will be the last to ever wear 20 doing so. Would be nice to cement that with a Cup.
- Tonybere

Yea trust me I don’t want to, he’s my favorite all time ranger. Just trying to think what Drury could be thinking if he wants to make a major change
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 2 @ 7:03 PM ET
Not too hard to do, IF those wing spots are taken up by Rempe, Othmann and Perreault and a D spot by Jones.
- Tonybere

Plus they still have Edstrom, Vesey and J Brod under contract
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