I believe that the org doesn’t really prioritize goaltending and hasn’t for a long while. It can be a real game changer as we see with shesterkin. I really hope that one of feds or kolosov turns into a stud and that we are patient with them. My prioritization is stud 1d stud 1c and then goaltender. Although team can overcome average goaltending like the oilers have I like the idea of having a top ten tender that can keep you in a lot of games and be your backbone.
- Hextall271

I don’t think that’s really true for most of their history. In the 2000’s I would agree they deprioritized the goalie position. I do feel though when Hextall became GM they focused the draft a bit better on goaltending. Hart, Fedotov, & Ersson were drafted by Hexy. And Briere drafted Bjarnason & Zavragin last year.

I will say, getting the goalie too early can cause you to appear better than you are. Carter Hart won a ton of games for the Flyers that they’d have lost otherwise.

Hope you didn’t bet the house on Dallas….
- landros 2

Ha. Yeah, I was pretty confident DAL would win. And less confident but still def leaning NYR would win. And I am pleased I was very wrong in the first and even more pleased to be wrong again and see blueshirts lose.

This series was weird.

1. Before game 4, EDM could never hold a lead through regulation. After that, they never gave up a lead.

2. Upto game 4, Dallas never gave up a lead. After that, the only lead they had they gave up.

3. EDM was at 0% for the first 4 games pp, then 80% over the next 2!

4. DAL scored 13 goals in the first 10 periods, and then 2 goals in the next 8.




Ever seen so many 180 degree turns in a series? Weird. Draisalt was meh. For long lengths of time, strategy for EDM seemed to be let McDavid do something, and then hang on for dear life.

They better up their game for Florida. There is WAY too much firepower for this strategy to work.

They have Michkov and Foerster at RW. It’s simply salary allocation and team building. They already pushed Tippett over to LW. They will probably continue jamming square blocks into round holes when they extend TK and put Michkov at center
- Just5

Exactly. Even if they weren’t rebuilding it makes sense to trade TK because there are younger players coming that will replace him and they have other significant holes they need to fill.

Kane, Giroux, Carter, Richards, Hartsy, Kimmo, Bob... quite a core there. With a more patient mindset, better cap management and a more forward-looking view on blueline construction, they might have become a dynasty.

But let's be honest... these are the Flyers we're talking about. Kane would have somehow gotten traded for Luke Schenn anyway and we'd be back on the same timeline haha. And Homer was never gonna manage the cap properly or stay patient.
- Tomahawk

They would have won in 2010 and possibly again in the ensuing couple seasons. That core’ window would have last as long as Pronger and Timonen were at the top of their game. Once those 2 were gone they’d have had to rebuild.

It's a lot of excuse making that literally EVERY team goes through it some point? Wrong! It's called reality. Things go in cycles. for everyone. It's as real as gravity. Don't like it? Find another sport.
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- bmeltzer

Actually… gravity is a theory…. And in fact a bad theory at that. Just saying

One thing I noticed, is that for the most part, every team that won got REALLY bad at some point. The Flyers refuse to get really bad. Dooming themselves to a perpetual state of mediocrity. They keep saying they reflect the city in toughness, work ethic etc. The Flyers fans live in the past as much as the franchise.
- MBFlyerFan

Well said, I was thinking the same thing. As I have said many times, it's not just tanking, its tanking at the right times and then getting lucky with the player. There are a lot of factors and it's not easy for any team. What bothers me the most about this forum is no one seems to want to give the new regime a chance. Why is that? Its clear to me Hextall failed. It's also clear to me that Fletcher was horrible at his job. They are responsible IMO for a decade of futility. But they are gone now and the people in place seem to understand what the Flyers are and love the Flyers. So lets give them a chance to succeed. So far they have not done a bad job.

2 Vezinas, another Vezina nomination and a cup would be a pretty good resume. Even if he doesn't win the cup he would still have a pretty good case. He also only needs 4 wins for 400 career victories.

I cant believe he is 35.


Still one of the worst decisions this franchise ever made.
- MBFlyerfan

Yes, absolutely a bad decision, but honestly we have to blame Mr Snider that that one. Holmgren didn't want to let Bob go from what I understand but was given an ultimatum by Snider.

Florida versus Edmonton for the Cup! I'm not surprised by Florida but I am by Edmonton; they have really played well this postseason. In the end I don't think Skinner can keep this up and Florida wins a hard fought series.

The question about the relationship between Michkov and Rotenburg also was raised. But Michkov was quick to dispel any issues, saying he didn’t know from where they sprouted.

“We are constantly in touch, talking,” Michkov said. He gives a lot of practical and valuable advice. We have complete mutual understanding both with the club and with him personally, which I really appreciate.”

I think this a good sign for the Flyers actually. Think about it, if Michkov is going to end his contract early and come the the NHL, it's going to have to be spinned as Rotenburg's idea. We all know the relationship can't be good between the two; twice Rotenburg sent Michkov out to a bad KHL club and then left him off the Russian national team. But Rotenburg is going tobe sure 1. he extorts as much money as he can from the Flyers and 2. he comes across as the guy who mentored Michkov and got him to the NHL. I think these are all good signs that Michkov comes here this season!

I was really happy the NHL network aired the Memorial Cup this past week, though bummed the London Nights lost with 21 seconds left in regulation on an flukey goal. Still, Oliver Bonk to me played really, really well and I was really impressed with him. He consistently kills plays, moves well in his own zone, makes really good decisions and has a great first pass up to the forwards. I think he has a chance to be "the guy" for the Flyers in the future. Not sure how much more he can do with London but given his age and the CHL rule, he will not have a choice but to return to the OHL. I think he is ready for the AHL now. On the flip side, I was not impressed with D*kson and I will be surprised if he goes top 10 to be honest. He has offensive ability for sure, and can skate well, but he is really bad in his own end. Bad decisions, including a bad icing late in the game that eventually lead to the game winner. I think Bonk is head and shoulders one of the best players on that London team.

I was really happy the NHL network aired the Memorial Cup this past week, though bummed the London Nights lost with 21 seconds left in regulation on an flukey goal. Still, Oliver Bonk to me played really, really well and I was really impressed with him. He consistently kills plays, moves well in his own zone, makes really good decisions and has a great first pass up to the forwards. I think he has a chance to be "the guy" for the Flyers in the future. Not sure how much more he can do with London but given his age and the CHL rule, he will not have a choice but to return to the OHL. I think he is ready for the AHL now. On the flip side, I was not impressed with D*kson and I will be surprised if he goes top 10 to be honest. He has offensive ability for sure, and can skate well, but he is really bad in his own end. Bad decisions, including a bad icing late in the game that eventually lead to the game winner. I think Bonk is head and shoulders one of the best players on that London team.
- jd250

London as a team looked out of sorts and disinterested for the majority of the game. I've never seen so many flubbed passes and shots by a team. They got some timely goals and made it a contest but even after they tied it I never felt like they were really in the game.

https://nypost.com/2024/0...h-restricted-free-agents/

Well said, I was thinking the same thing. As I have said many times, it's not just tanking, its tanking at the right times and then getting lucky with the player. There are a lot of factors and it's not easy for any team. What bothers me the most about this forum is no one seems to want to give the new regime a chance. Why is that? Its clear to me Hextall failed. It's also clear to me that Fletcher was horrible at his job. They are responsible IMO for a decade of futility. But they are gone now and the people in place seem to understand what the Flyers are and love the Flyers. So lets give them a chance to succeed. So far they have not done a bad job.
- jd250

it isnt a new regime. danny boy was here already. danny boy learned under chuck.

nothing they have done so far indicates much will change.

what are the flyers? to me they are an incompetent organization who continues to live in the past.

I was really happy the NHL network aired the Memorial Cup this past week, though bummed the London Nights lost with 21 seconds left in regulation on an flukey goal. Still, Oliver Bonk to me played really, really well and I was really impressed with him. He consistently kills plays, moves well in his own zone, makes really good decisions and has a great first pass up to the forwards. I think he has a chance to be "the guy" for the Flyers in the future. Not sure how much more he can do with London but given his age and the CHL rule, he will not have a choice but to return to the OHL. I think he is ready for the AHL now. On the flip side, I was not impressed with D*kson and I will be surprised if he goes top 10 to be honest. He has offensive ability for sure, and can skate well, but he is really bad in his own end. Bad decisions, including a bad icing late in the game that eventually lead to the game winner. I think Bonk is head and shoulders one of the best players on that London team.
- jd250

can you define what you mean by that? are you saying a legit #1 dman?

https://nypost.com/2024/06/02/sports/rangers-have-major-decisions-to-make-with-restricted-free-agents/
- hello it's me 2050

You know who is interesting. Kaileyv in LA. He's played a limited role but he can score some goals. I would be interested in him if he didn't cost much or if they didn't QO him.

can you define what you mean by that? are you saying a legit #1 dman?
- hello it's me 2050

To me I think Bonk will be the #2 to a true number 1.

Ha. Yeah, I was pretty confident DAL would win. And less confident but still def leaning NYR would win. And I am pleased I was very wrong in the first and even more pleased to be wrong again and see blueshirts lose.

This series was weird.

1. Before game 4, EDM could never hold a lead through regulation. After that, they never gave up a lead.

2. Upto game 4, Dallas never gave up a lead. After that, the only lead they had they gave up.

3. EDM was at 0% for the first 4 games pp, then 80% over the next 2!

4. DAL scored 13 goals in the first 10 periods, and then 2 goals in the next 8.




Ever seen so many 180 degree turns in a series? Weird. Draisalt was meh. For long lengths of time, strategy for EDM seemed to be let McDavid do something, and then hang on for dear life.

They better up their game for Florida. There is WAY too much firepower for this strategy to work.
- PT21

I agreed with you that Dallas up till that point really looked like the deeper well put together team. Florida presents a whole new challenge. Not only are they deep, they are more physical. They match or come close to matching the skill level and obviously they have the advantage in goal.
This is a cup that Florida should win…I wonder if Edmonton is ready to scale the mountain or are they not quite ready. I picked the Oilers at the start so I guess I’ll stick with it and say Oilers in a close 7 game series….that said this is why I don’t often wager….probably Florida in 5…

To me I think Bonk will be the #2 to a true number 1.
- J35Bacher

we shall see as that is a very high expectation. if he can solidify the 2nd pair than all good. wont know until he turns pro. as said earlier another year of junior isnt that helpful.

we shall see as that is a very high expectation. if he can solidify the 2nd pair than all good. wont know until he turns pro. as said earlier another year of junior isnt that helpful.
- hello it's me 2050

Just saying I don't see him as a number 1. I agree though, if he can solidify a 2nd pair that would be great.

Just seeing if we still agree:

TRADE KONECNY AND LAUGHTON!!!

I was really happy the NHL network aired the Memorial Cup this past week, though bummed the London Nights lost with 21 seconds left in regulation on an flukey goal. Still, Oliver Bonk to me played really, really well and I was really impressed with him. He consistently kills plays, moves well in his own zone, makes really good decisions and has a great first pass up to the forwards. I think he has a chance to be "the guy" for the Flyers in the future. Not sure how much more he can do with London but given his age and the CHL rule, he will not have a choice but to return to the OHL. I think he is ready for the AHL now. On the flip side, I was not impressed with D*kson and I will be surprised if he goes top 10 to be honest. He has offensive ability for sure, and can skate well, but he is really bad in his own end. Bad decisions, including a bad icing late in the game that eventually lead to the game winner. I think Bonk is head and shoulders one of the best players on that London team.
- jd250

D*Kson is going to be a very good. Kids still 17. I’ve seen some rate him as high as 4 and no lower than the Flyers at 12….but I think I’ve only seen a couple rate him out of the top 10. London was flat last night….they let Saginaw dictate the play and even though they came back from 3-0 they never really took control. I thought Barkey looked off and never got himself into the game. I thought it was his worst game of the entire memorial cup.
Bonk is close, but I think both him and Barkey could use another full year in the “O”. Bonk is easily one of their leaders and best players….I’m not sure he wins D man of the year, but he’ll be under consideration. He’s still better defensively…it’s the offence that has really taken a turn this year.

Well said, I was thinking the same thing. As I have said many times, it's not just tanking, its tanking at the right times and then getting lucky with the player. There are a lot of factors and it's not easy for any team. What bothers me the most about this forum is no one seems to want to give the new regime a chance. Why is that? Its clear to me Hextall failed. It's also clear to me that Fletcher was horrible at his job. They are responsible IMO for a decade of futility. But they are gone now and the people in place seem to understand what the Flyers are and love the Flyers. So lets give them a chance to succeed. So far they have not done a bad job.
- jd250

I don’t think they’ve done a bad job…but I don’t think I’m ready to say DB has done anything great either.

Yup, they’ve never been comfortable as an organization with rebuilding.
- BiggE

And they tout it like it’s some kind of badge of honor. It’s really impressive as they get lapped by Chicago and soon enough Pittsburgh

can you define what you mean by that? are you saying a legit #1 dman?
- hello it's me 2050

Yes, I think he has a chance to be a #1.

My favorite response so far.



Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
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13h
a team won a Cup without tanking literally last year lmao


https://twitter.com/charl...tatus/1797460417972981774

My favorite response so far.



Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
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13h
a team won a Cup without tanking literally last year lmao


https://twitter.com/charl...tatus/1797460417972981774
- MBFlyerfan

I responded, and did my bit in trying to drum up clicks for Bill/HB:

https://x.com/PT21Phillyb...tatus/1797699933107310599