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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 4 @ 2:34 PM ET
I could see kakko staying but they may want a faster better forechecking winger. Could let Othmann or Berard slide in there as well
- nyrangers2

I want Sykora to also get a shot. I think Berard and Sykora could be a very effective third line
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 2:37 PM ET
All for players playing injured unless the really can’t go. As for trouba ltir could’ve got them a nice top 4 dman or top rw. Worked well for Vegas. A lot of folks mentioned this when Trouba originally got hurt in March. Not really sure why you’re so angry here.

Nobody is blaming players here. More so a GM issue. Drury did some crazy poop the previous deadline too wi to the whole Kane trade.

- nyrangers2


Tons of people are blaming the players. Are you not reading any of these comments?? And the first game Trouba missed with his ankle was the day AFTER the trade deadline. So, how exactly were we supposed to pick up a replacement? Drury was supposed to Harry Potter up some magic rules or something?
I'm angry because it's annoying to read on June 4th how everyone knew better and had a solution that would've handed us the Cup. It's worse than excuses, it's delusion.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 4 @ 2:38 PM ET
No, it isn't. LTIR him for what? So we could accrue cap space AFTER the trade deadline had passed?
It's flat out amazing and asinine that you guys blame the front office (or the players themselves) for players getting injured as the season wore on. This is life, not your PS4. If you don't want to deal with reality stick to the safe, virtual spaces you've become used to.
This is the big boy league. We couldn't stay healthy and then we couldn't stay hot. It happens to at least one team almost every damn year. We had a really good team that got beat by a better one that was hot at the right time. Boo hoo. Put on your big boy pants, suck it up and deal with life, or don't. But, don't think that you've all got all the answers in your simulated basement-world and everyone else who is excepting reality doesn't know what's what. So annoying to see all those with perfect hindsight telling everyone else how they knew better than those in charge.

- Tonybere

Brukie and I tried to tell all who would listen. We were scoffed, mocked and ridiculed. But never the less. We are steadfast.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
Tons of people are blaming the players. Are you not reading any of these comments?? And the first game Trouba missed with his ankle was the day AFTER the trade deadline. So, how exactly were we supposed to pick up a replacement? Drury was supposed to Harry Potter up some magic rules or something?
I'm angry because it's annoying to read on June 4th how everyone knew better and had a solution that would've handed us the Cup. It's worse than excuses, it's delusion.

- Tonybere


He broke is ankle prior to the tdl. He tried to played a few games with it. That’s why the LTIR was a good option. Should’ve shut him down to heal. But I don’t run the team. Just an opinion.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
He broke is ankle prior to the tdl. He tried to played a few games with it. That’s why the LTIR was a good option. Should’ve shut him down to heal. But I don’t run the team. Just an opinion.
- nyrangers2

This man is only firing the true bars right now.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
[quote=nyrangers2]

From what I read, the 1st game Trouba missed due to his ankle was March 9th. When was the trade deadline again, please?
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 4 @ 3:26 PM ET
From what I read, the 1st game Trouba missed due to his ankle was March 9th. When was the trade deadline again, please?
- Tonybere

March 8th. Doesn't change the fact he should have missed the 10 games. Similar situation the year before with Lindgren. Chris Drury does not understand how LTIR works. SAD!
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
I really don’t care if Trouba was hurt or healthy. I am looking at next year going forward. He has fallen behind fox and Schneider on the right handed defensemen depth chart. You just can’t pay a 3rd pair guy 8 million a year when you are trying to build at a roster to compete for the cup. It’s that simple to me
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
I really don’t care if Trouba was hurt or healthy. I am looking at next year going forward. He has fallen behind fox and Schneider on the right handed defensemen depth chart. You just can’t pay a 3rd pair guy 8 million a year when you are trying to build at a roster to compete for the cup. It’s that simple to me
- TPC


Agreed. Every team has some bad contracts, but this one is top 5 league bad.

Some teams can over come that and some cannot.
fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Jun 4 @ 3:31 PM ET
March 8th. Doesn't change the fact he should have missed the 10 games. Similar situation the year before with Lindgren. Chris Drury does not understand how LTIR works. SAD!
- blacksheep1


Sounds like you should be assistant GM! First order, what’s the roster lineup for game 1 if it were you?
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:33 PM ET
March 8th. Doesn't change the fact he should have missed the 10 games. Similar situation the year before with Lindgren. Chris Drury does not understand how LTIR works. SAD!
- blacksheep1


So, what does Drury then do with all this accrued cap space on March 9th? How does it not change your "fact?" Seriously, I'll wait for you to respond. What is the end game that shows that Drury doesn't know what he's doing?
If there is a benefit to keeping someone out of the line up after the point at which you can no longer acquire new players, I need to hear it. Obviously, I also don't understand how LTIR works.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 4 @ 3:35 PM ET
So, what does Drury then do with all this accrued cap space on March 9th? How does it not change your "fact?" Seriously, I'll wait for you to respond. What is the end game that shows that Drury doesn't know what he's doing?
If there is a benefit to keeping someone out of the line up after the point at which you can no longer acquire new players, I need to hear it. Obviously, I also don't understand how LTIR works.

- Tonybere


If Drury would have put trouba on LTIR they could have acquired someone with an $8m contract. And then activated trouba for the PO. Similar to what they did with chytl. and what vegas did last year and this year. Tamapa did it as well. Both teams won cups doing it
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:38 PM ET
I really don’t care if Trouba was hurt or healthy. I am looking at next year going forward. He has fallen behind fox and Schneider on the right handed defensemen depth chart. You just can’t pay a 3rd pair guy 8 million a year when you are trying to build at a roster to compete for the cup. It’s that simple to me
- TPC


Totally agree with you that he can't be taking up that cap space on the 3rd pairing for an entire season. But, I need Tom to elaborate on how this is negligence on Drury's part. If he's going to constantly make accusations, I want accountability. That's all I'm looking for here. Either Drury is bad and he can scream it all he wants, or he admits that this was not handled badly and we move on. I'm willing to alter my position, but I need more than "Drury bad."
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:43 PM ET
If Drury would have put trouba on LTIR they could have acquired someone with an $8m contract. And then activated trouba for the PO. Similar to what they did with chytl. and what vegas did last year and this year. Tamapa did it as well. Both teams won cups doing it
- nyrangers2


No. That's not how it works.
Firstly, on March 9th there was probably about $1M of Trouba's contract left to be paid out for the season. So, we would only have that amount to add to our cap space, not $8M.
Secondly, if he didn't get hurt until the day AFTER the trade deadline passed, how do you add another player? We would've had extra room for a contract from Hartford, yes, but that's all.
And thirdly, while Jones acquitted himself well at times, he was by no means going to fill the role of shot-blocking, physical, minute-munching Dman that Trouba provides for us.
So, if Trouba was deemed healthy, what the (frank) are we talking about?
Someone's need to create a negative spin. That's all I can figure.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 4 @ 3:45 PM ET
Totally agree with you that he can't be taking up that cap space on the 3rd pairing for an entire season. But, I need Tom to elaborate on how this is negligence on Drury's part. If he's going to constantly make accusations, I want accountability. That's all I'm looking for here. Either Drury is bad and he can scream it all he wants, or he admits that this was not handled badly and we move on. I'm willing to alter my position, but I need more than "Drury bad."
- Tonybere

Oh yea I’ll let you and Tom get back at it lol
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 4 @ 3:53 PM ET
Totally agree with you that he can't be taking up that cap space on the 3rd pairing for an entire season. But, I need Tom to elaborate on how this is negligence on Drury's part. If he's going to constantly make accusations, I want accountability. That's all I'm looking for here. Either Drury is bad and he can scream it all he wants, or he admits that this was not handled badly and we move on. I'm willing to alter my position, but I need more than "Drury bad."
- Tonybere

Idk, if you can now seperate me from others, but here goes. Trouba getting hurt on March 9th left them with no options via trade. Him playing through a broken ankle and not being put on LTIR is direct fault of Drury. Man refuses to accept that guys get hurt. Chris Drury continues to screw the Rangers.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:54 PM ET
Oh yea I’ll let you and Tom get back at it lol
- TPC



I know I should let it go. But, if I'm going to at times stand up for his (and others) right to shout negativity, I'm also going to point out when it is unjustified. I think this is one of those times and I'd like him to explain how I'm wrong, if I am. If he can't, then he should admit he's offbase and move along. There are plenty of issues to point out on this team today, so let's not go looking for problems that aren't there!
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 3:57 PM ET
Idk, if you can now seperate me from others, but here goes. Trouba getting hurt on March 9th left them with no options via trade. Him playing through a broken ankle and not being put on LTIR is direct fault of Drury. Man refuses to accept that guys get hurt. Chris Drury continues to screw the Rangers.
- blacksheep1


Trouba was on LTIR until he was cleared to be activated. Your dislike of Trouba and his less than stellar stats aside, if he is not medically unfit to play, who is going to play his minutes in the style of play he brings? If we don't have a "replacement" then why would he NOT go back in the line up? Remember, we are being told that at the time of redeployment, he was healthy.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 4 @ 3:59 PM ET
Totally agree with you that he can't be taking up that cap space on the 3rd pairing for an entire season. But, I need Tom to elaborate on how this is negligence on Drury's part. If he's going to constantly make accusations, I want accountability. That's all I'm looking for here. Either Drury is bad and he can scream it all he wants, or he admits that this was not handled badly and we move on. I'm willing to alter my position, but I need more than "Drury bad."
- Tonybere

Tom is a good time…said no one ever
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 4:02 PM ET
Tom is a good time…said no one ever
- Slimtj100


I've had good discussions with Tom before, and I'm sure I will again. I just think that he's wrongly accusing Drury on this one and I don't think that's ok, given all the blame being heaped on him. No need to see him saddled with shooting JFK, too.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
I've had good discussions with Tom before, and I'm sure I will again. I just think that he's wrongly accusing Drury on this one and I don't think that's ok, given all the blame being heaped on him. No need to see him saddled with shooting JFK, too.
- Tonybere

I actually agree with Tom on Drury this year I didn’t like what he did this year. I get it it’s not easy to acquire players, but I stated all year he waited too long after the fil injury to make a trade. He got some decent additions, but very meh overall
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 4 @ 4:14 PM ET
I've had good discussions with Tom before, and I'm sure I will again. I just think that he's wrongly accusing Drury on this one and I don't think that's ok, given all the blame being heaped on him. No need to see him saddled with shooting JFK, too.
- Tonybere

No, no, no. Last year year and this year sh0wed that Drury doesn't have grasp on LTIR works. I don't propose scenarios. I react to facts.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 4 @ 4:18 PM ET
I mentioned him earlier in the season, but..

Cody Glass for Kakko is a trade I’d look into. He’s underachieved, but he’s young (25) big and fast…can be RW/C

This would allow Chytil to play RW (which is probably what they’d like to do), Glass can be the 3C and he makes 2.5 for one more season.

Would Nashville do this, idk, but I think if the fans saw Kakko get traded, get a guy who’s had a similar trajectory would ease some of the worries about it
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 4 @ 4:21 PM ET
I mentioned him earlier in the season, but..

Cody Glass for Kakko is a trade I’d look into. He’s underachieved, but he’s young (26) big and fast…can be RW/C

This would allow Chytil to play RW (which is probably what they’d like to do), Glass can be the 3C and he makes 2.5 for one more season.

Would Nashville do this, idk, but I think if the fans saw Kakko get traded, get a guy who’s had a similar trajectory would ease some of it

- Slimtj100


A different Pred that someone mentioned in ACGM is Tomassino.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
A different Pred that someone mentioned in ACGM is Tomassino.
- aecliptic

Yea that’s not bad. I don’t think they’d trade him unless they get a player, not a pick or prospect
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