Not sure but giving up Jacob Markstron and taking back 4 years of Korpisalo to move from 9 to 7 is a rediculous proposal.
Korpisalo's contract has very low to negative value and there is virtually no difference in the value of player your drafting at # 7 and #9.

The thought that Calgary is desperate to draft Tij is dumb as what their prospect pool really needs is help at C and D not wing.
- DEDDIE

I agree, hard to swallow Korpisalo ....... but, if Ottawa retains half the salary. The "sweeteners" could be Mathieu Joseph, Bernard-Docker, Sokolov, Jarventie. Not necessarily all 4, but some combination.
Given Markstrom's age, time on contract left (2 years), and a decline in more recent performances, Calgary is not getting a first round pick for him. As a 34 year old, he would be no teams long term answer in goal.
What all teams need to realize is that goaltending is a difficult beast to master. Goalie's seasons can be widely variable from one year to the next. That is why so few of them actually make good money. Markstrom and Ullmark's best days are most likely behind them. They played on teams with good defensive structure and that may not be the case on any new team they get traded to. I believe relative sanity will probably return to the goalie market after teams step back and reassess their original offers. It might even explain why New Jersey hasn't done the trade for Markstrom already. I think the Devil's are /or have had second thoughts on what they are willing to offer.

The Sens do need some wing help....

Laine? Are we interested, if we don't pay anything and get CBJ to take back some bad contracts?
- GrimmdaGoalie

Not opposed to looking at Laine. If his sobriety coach gives a thumbs up on going forward, it might be a very good move. Would still do PLD before taking on the other half of the trade. There is a way to both ends of those options and it is possible to squeeze both PLD and Laine onto the Sens roster.

I agree, hard to swallow Korpisalo ....... but, if Ottawa retains half the salary. The "sweeteners" could be Mathieu Joseph, Bernard-Docker, Sokolov, Jarventie. Not necessarily all 4, but some combination.
Given Markstrom's age, time on contract left (2 years), and a decline in more recent performances, Calgary is not getting a first round pick for him. As a 34 year old, he would be no teams long term answer in goal.
What all teams need to realize is that goaltending is a difficult beast to master. Goalie's seasons can be widely variable from one year to the next. That is why so few of them actually make good money. Markstrom and Ullmark's best days are most likely behind them. They played on teams with good defensive structure and that may not be the case on any new team they get traded to. I believe relative sanity will probably return to the goalie market after teams step back and reassess their original offers. It might even explain why New Jersey hasn't done the trade for Markstrom already. I think the Devil's are /or have had second thoughts on what they are willing to offer.
- OttawaB

Iginla is going to be a superstar. Maybe the Sens just take him and let NJ and Calgary work out a deal for Markstrom.

If Iginla is available at #7 do the Sens flip picks with Calgary and other considerations. Sens would get #9 and Markstrom. Calgary gets #7 (Iginla), Korpisalo and a sweetener to make the deal work.

I would not like that deal...but, I fear something involving a reach for another goalie is inevitable.
- spatso

You honestly think just flipping the #7/#9 picks would be enough to get CGY to give you Markstrom AND do OTT the massive favour of taking 4 years of Korpisalo off the books? And you still think it's a bad deal? They gave up a #7 overall pick in addition to a 2nd/3rd to get DeBrincat for the single-most expensive season of his career without even knowing if he wanted to actually play with the team or sign an extension. Meanwhile, the Devils are rumored to be offering one of Mercer/Holtz. So I don't think that's a very realistic offer.

You honestly think just flipping the #7/#9 picks would be enough to get CGY to give you Markstrom AND do OTT the massive favour of taking 4 years of Korpisalo off the books? And you still think it's a bad deal? They gave up a #7 overall pick in addition to a 2nd/3rd to get DeBrincat for the single-most expensive season of his career without even knowing if he wanted to actually play with the team or sign an extension. Meanwhile, the Devils are rumored to be offering one of Mercer/Holtz. So I don't think that's a very realistic offer.
- khawk

I am not a huge fan of doing any kind of deal for Markstrom. But the flip 7/9, Korpisalo/Markstrom plus a sweetener is viable. I would not do the deal, for example, if the sweetener is, for example Grieg.

If the sweetener is the Boston pick....some folks might say yes...but I don't like it. Would you do 7, 25 and Korpisalo for 9 and Markstrom?

I am not a huge fan of doing any kind of deal for Markstrom. But the flip 7/9, Korpisalo/Markstrom plus a sweetener is viable. I would not do the deal, for example, if the sweetener is, for example Grieg.

If the sweetener is the Boston pick....some folks might say yes...but I don't like it. Would you do 7, 25 and Korpisalo for 9 and Markstrom?
- spatso

It depends on how much the team feels that Korpo is the problem.

My opinion has always been: improve the RD, play with structure and accountability and better coach and THEN see if the goaltending is the problem.

But if I'm the Sens, assuming one of Levi and Mads are NHL ready in one year, I'd do that deal with Calgary for not other reason than it frees up the goalie position in 2 years.

You honestly think just flipping the #7/#9 picks would be enough to get CGY to give you Markstrom AND do OTT the massive favour of taking 4 years of Korpisalo off the books? And you still think it's a bad deal? They gave up a #7 overall pick in addition to a 2nd/3rd to get DeBrincat for the single-most expensive season of his career without even knowing if he wanted to actually play with the team or sign an extension. Meanwhile, the Devils are rumored to be offering one of Mercer/Holtz. So I don't think that's a very realistic offer.
- khawk

Unless some team thinks Tij can ba a center in the NHL, its highly likely he's still on the board at #9. If he's gone that means one of the D men has fallen to the Flames and they will be very happy to draft a highly rated D at #9.

Unless some team thinks Tij can ba a center in the NHL, its highly likely he's still on the board at #9. If he's gone that means one of the D men has fallen to the Flames and they will be very happy to draft a highly rated D at #9.
- DEDDIE

Well, yes - all of this is based on the crude default assumption that the Flames are just compulsively dead-set on drafting Tij Iginla, and will make sacrifices to ensure this plays out in reality. Plus, even if there is a trade being discussed along these lines, the Senators don't even control Iginla being available with the #7 pick. A team like Utah or Columbus could very well decide they want a young player with NHL pedigree and name recognition to be part of their young core. The Senators may even feel the same way themselves, given the lack of high-end forwards in the prospect system, and the looming spectre of Tkachuk having just 4yrs left under contract.

Well, yes - all of this is based on the crude default assumption that the Flames are just compulsively dead-set on drafting Tij Iginla, and will make sacrifices to ensure this plays out in reality. Plus, even if there is a trade being discussed along these lines, the Senators don't even control Iginla being available with the #7 pick. A team like Utah or Columbus could very well decide they want a young player with NHL pedigree and name recognition to be part of their young core. The Senators may even feel the same way themselves, given the lack of high-end forwards in the prospect system, and the looming spectre of Tkachuk having just 4yrs left under contract.
- khawk

conundrum, for OTT, do thy draft Tij hoping to sign one of the big name RHD on July 1st, or go far a RHD and need to find a top 6 winger in trade.

conundrum, for OTT, do thy draft Tij hoping to sign one of the big name RHD on July 1st, or go far a RHD and need to find a top 6 winger in trade.
- Mithos

Personally, I'd be surprised if Iginla was still available at #7. Montreal at #5 appear to have a lot of young Dmen. Jarome Iginla was a special player and the son appears to be headed to a very successful career. If Iginla was available at #7, I'd hope that we draft him unless the organization was absolutely sold on someone else. We can look to get a DMan in free agency - which would be an easier task if the team gets an established goalie.

Personally, I'd be surprised if Iginla was still available at #7. Montreal at #5 appear to have a lot of young Dmen. Jarome Iginla was a special player and the son appears to be headed to a very successful career. If Iginla was available at #7, I'd hope that we draft him unless the organization was absolutely sold on someone else. We can look to get a DMan in free agency - which would be an easier task if the team gets an established goalie.
- SensFan25

If it means Lindstrom drops to us, by all means let them draft Tij, but most consensus seems to have Montreal drafting the big pivot. I'm hoping it's an interesting draft day at least - there's been very little movement these past years, makes.for a slow TV day.

Florida is big, disciplined and physical. Edmonton is highly skilled including the best player on the planet.

Starting from scratch: Barkov or McDavid? Who gives you the best chance to win a Stanley Cup final?

Who is the best top 6 physical forward that could be available this summer? What about a top 4 physical Dman? Problem is every team will be placing a premium on adding physicality to their game.

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Checking the ice time this evening. Zero panthers forwards averaged over a 45 second shift.
Barkov who was unreal again, 43 seconds. Usual suspects for Edmonton all over a minute again. You can win in junior hockey like that but not in the NHL playoffs

Florida is big, disciplined and physical. Edmonton is highly skilled including the best player on the planet.

Starting from scratch: Barkov or McDavid? Who gives you the best chance to win a Stanley Cup final?

Who is the best top 6 physical forward that could be available this summer? What about a top 4 physical Dman? Problem is every team will be placing a premium on adding physicality to their game.
- spatso

Your team needs to be built around an identity, and have the right supporting pieces in place to maximize your strengths. Barkov isn't necessarily better than McDavid, but he certainly better suits the identity of FLA. The biggest issue for EDM right now is that Draisaitl/Kane/Nurse are all pretty clearly injured, which only further isolates McDavid in terms of checking assignments. FLA wasn't the same team in last year's finals without Tkachuk/Gudas, which really emphasizes that to win a Stanley Cup you need some degree of good luck on your side. It's also often said that defence wins championships, and it would be hard to argue with in the case of this year's Finals.

And with FLA, their defensive strength it's not just a matter of a couple of good players like Barkov/Ekblad, it's a team-level identity. However, the fact that they're led by those two as big/strong two-way 1C/1D certainly reinforces that identity with emphasis. They put a statistic on the screen last night that nearly made me fall out of my chair - apparently going into last night's game FLA was 52-0-3 this year in the regular season & playoffs when leading by 2 goals or more. Not only does it mean they had at least a 2-goal lead in over half of their games, but they also never once lost in a game in regulation after having a 2-goal lead. They're also a very rough team by identity with the most hits/PIM in the entire league, but they have the PK% and team-defense structure to back it up.

In terms of a physical forward the Senators could target, I still think they might take a run at Tanner Jeannot via trade. He's rumored to be available from TBL, and he's something of a wrecking ball who could really change the look/feel of the Senators' 3rd line. Failing that (or maybe in addition), I think someone like Yakov Trenin would be a high-value signing... good on the PK, can score 10G, and put up 150-200 hits. It's not a coincidence that both came from the Predators' development system, which speaks to their style of play. As for the D, I think Kleven helps a lot right out of the gate in terms of adding physical play to the blue line, but I'd really like to see the RHD they bring in have some toughness as well. I keep mentioning Matt Roy, but he's the one of the few top-4D available with hits in the 150-range, while also playing solid all-round defence in a complement role.

I would submit that the Oilers biggest issue starts in the net and works it's way out. I can't even fathom how they got by Dallas.

Even a healthy Nurse, Ceci and Deharnais....are dreadful. Their goalie is unproven and "hold your breath" on every shot by the opposition.

Up front they are decent. But most people knowing hockey looked at this before the series started and new a sweep was coming. Perhaps a feel good "one game at home" like Ottawa had against the Ducks. But both teams knew almost immediately who was going to win the series.

Saw this pretend trade on flamesnation:

To Ottawa:
- Markstrom
- Calgary 1st (9th)

To Calgary:
- Korpisalo
- Joseph
- Ostapchuk
- Ott 1st (7th)
- Bos 1st (25)
- Fla 3rd round pick

What do you guys think?

I honestly don't get the hate for Joseph. His contract is under 3 mil and he's a fast grindy type player. He also had a career year in points last year. I dunno.

Saw this pretend trade on flamesnation:

To Ottawa:
- Markstrom
- Calgary 1st (9th)

To Calgary:
- Korpisalo
- Joseph
- Ostapchuk
- Ott 1st (7th)
- Bos 1st (25)
- Fla 3rd round pick

What do you guys think?

I honestly don't get the hate for Joseph. His contract is under 3 mil and he's a fast grindy type player. He also had a career year in points last year. I dunno.
- PogBoi

god awfull for OTT, markstrom aint worth a first in the first place and waht to essentialy send a 1st++ for him

Your team needs to be built around an identity, and have the right supporting pieces in place to maximize your strengths. Barkov isn't necessarily better than McDavid, but he certainly better suits the identity of FLA. The biggest issue for EDM right now is that Draisaitl/Kane/Nurse are all pretty clearly injured, which only further isolates McDavid in terms of checking assignments. FLA wasn't the same team in last year's finals without Tkachuk/Gudas, which really emphasizes that to win a Stanley Cup you need some degree of good luck on your side. It's also often said that defence wins championships, and it would be hard to argue with in the case of this year's Finals.

And with FLA, their defensive strength it's not just a matter of a couple of good players like Barkov/Ekblad, it's a team-level identity. However, the fact that they're led by those two as big/strong two-way 1C/1D certainly reinforces that identity with emphasis. They put a statistic on the screen last night that nearly made me fall out of my chair - apparently going into last night's game FLA was 52-0-3 this year in the regular season & playoffs when leading by 2 goals or more. Not only does it mean they had at least a 2-goal lead in over half of their games, but they also never once lost in a game in regulation after having a 2-goal lead. They're also a very rough team by identity with the most hits/PIM in the entire league, but they have the PK% and team-defense structure to back it up.

In terms of a physical forward the Senators could target, I still think they might take a run at Tanner Jeannot via trade. He's rumored to be available from TBL, and he's something of a wrecking ball who could really change the look/feel of the Senators' 3rd line. Failing that (or maybe in addition), I think someone like Yakov Trenin would be a high-value signing... good on the PK, can score 10G, and put up 150-200 hits. It's not a coincidence that both came from the Predators' development system, which speaks to their style of play. As for the D, I think Kleven helps a lot right out of the gate in terms of adding physical play to the blue line, but I'd really like to see the RHD they bring in have some toughness as well. I keep mentioning Matt Roy, but he's the one of the few top-4D available with hits in the 150-range, while also playing solid all-round defence in a complement role.
- khawk

A+

Saw this pretend trade on flamesnation:

To Ottawa:
- Markstrom
- Calgary 1st (9th)

To Calgary:
- Korpisalo
- Joseph
- Ostapchuk
- Ott 1st (7th)
- Bos 1st (25)
- Fla 3rd round pick

What do you guys think?

I honestly don't get the hate for Joseph. His contract is under 3 mil and he's a fast grindy type player. He also had a career year in points last year. I dunno.
- PogBoi

I'd hate to lose Ostapchuk. If you swap in Forsberg instead of Korpisalo then the price paid would drop significantly.

In terms of fleshing out our bottom 6, who would you like to see the Sens add? A few of the less sexy UFA names worth mentioning:
Dakota Joshua
Teddy Blueger
Sam Lafferty
Daniel Sprong
Stefan Noesen
Kiefer Sherwood
Danton Heinen
Jordan Martinook
Michael Amadio
Kasperi Kapanen

All 31 or younger pending UFA players, solid if unspectacular that put up at least .3 PPG last year and aren't marquee names that will likely be overpaid (eg Stephenson, Debrusk). Some of these guys will get more, but assuming we aren't paying higher than 3*3 for any of these guys, who would you like to see on the Sens?

Talk of Ottawa being willing to use its top pick for a trade (where does this poop come from).
The only goalie I would use the #7 overall pick to obtain would be if Nashville was willing to trade Askarov (goalie in AHL). But I would still use the second round pick to draft Nabokov from the KHL.

Talk of Ottawa being willing to use its top pick for a trade (where does this poop come from).
The only goalie I would use the #7 overall pick to obtain would be if Nashville was willing to trade Askarov (goalie in AHL). But I would still use the second round pick to draft Nabokov from the KHL.
- OttawaB

paying a top 10 pick on askarov or any G prospect is like playing russian roulette with 5/6 chambers loaded, it is the definition of stupidity. Knight was also as highly regarded as a G prospect as him and hes a 4.5M AHL G...the position is way to volatile to offer such substantial asset for.

Saw this pretend trade on flamesnation:

To Ottawa:
- Markstrom
- Calgary 1st (9th)

To Calgary:
- Korpisalo
- Joseph
- Ostapchuk
- Ott 1st (7th)
- Bos 1st (25)
- Fla 3rd round pick

What do you guys think?

I honestly don't get the hate for Joseph. His contract is under 3 mil and he's a fast grindy type player. He also had a career year in points last year. I dunno.
- PogBoi

take out either Ostapchuk or BOS 2025 1st

also moving up 2 spots is big in the top 10. Take out FLA 3rd

When the Sens break camp this October, I want to see more size and grit in the line up. I hope these players get a serious shot in rounding out the 4th line and the 3rd defensive pairing.

Mark Kestelic (25) 6' 4" 223 lbs
Zack Ostapchuck (21) 6' 4" 203 lbs
Stephen Halliday (21) 6' 3" 213 lbs

Maxence Guenette (23) 6' 3" 195 lbs
Tyler Kleven (22) 6' 4" 200 lbs

And, if I could, I would add Pierre Luc Dubois age 25 @ 6" 3" and 218 lbs to play in the top 6.

Folks talk about a UFA market where teams will have a lot of choice.

The numbers tell us something very different. Half the teams are hard pressed just to be able to sign their own players.

More important, there are 6 teams that have a combined total of over $200 m. in free cap space. Utah, San Jose, Anaheim, Chicago, Detroit and Nashville. I think it is safe to say that these teams have the cap space and are going to poach all the leading UFAs.

UFA season this year will be very different. Maybe Utah and Chicago sign the top 5 or 6 picks. They are going to make it very expensive, if not impossible, for about 1/2 the teams to even get in on the opening bids.