If FL can stop their PP
- Letterkenney

Good luck.

I hope he doesnt get bought out, and the flyers are on the hook for some of that
- bradster

It would open a retention slot if he got bought out.

No need to buy anyone out, let Cam, Ryjo and Peterson all come completely off the books in 2025. Along with TDA’s buyout ending, that will free up roughly 16.4 million.

Plus in 2026 Hayes is off the books and the same for Ellis and Risto in 2027. As long as they doing nothing stupid, yeah, a big if for sure, they will be in excellent cap shape by 25-26.

Damn... barkey is already a bust

Please just spew ill-informed hyperbolic crap on a message board without know what the hell actually happened and with no context behind it. Won't tax your pea-brain that way.
- bmeltzer

I mean…why? Just, why?

What's sillier is Canada's record against the West Coast/Sun Belt teams that they've complained non-stop about:

Montreal lost to Tampa
Ottawa lost to Anaheim
Edmonton lost to Carolina
Calgary lost to Tampa

If McJesus loses to Florida...
- Tomahawk

Your statement is silly because Canada has 7 teams in a league of 32. Players would most likely rather play in the states whether it’s due to better weather or taxes. The odds are against Canadian teams every season.

There are things they've screwed up. This was one because Ed Snider overruled his GM and the organization's goalie coach out of impatience to "guarantee" something that simply couldn't be guaranteed. It ended up, indirectly, working out OK. Mason's Flyers numbers were almost identical to Bob's career numbers.

For the record, Holmgren thought Bob was going to be a good No. 1 goalie. Jeff Reese thought the same, even more vehemently. But neither could guarantee to Ed Snider, after one year in the NHL, Bob was absolutely ready for a deep run come playoff time. And that's what Snider wanted. A guarantee Bobrovsky was ready for that OR a proven goalie of Vezina caliber (in his recent past).

Snider had been been talked into coming back with Boucher and Leighton (Bob was a surprise) in 2010-11. And then Lavy had a goalie carousel in the 2011 playoffs. Snider wasn't going to give in again.
- bmeltzer

Who have the Flyers replaced in the front office/scouting/development ranks, in the last 8 years aside from Pryor, Hextall, and Fletcher?

Country club of incompetence, but thank goodness for those alumni nights.

Will the Oil get the calls vs Panthers?

No need to buy anyone out, let Cam, Ryjo and Peterson all come completely off the books in 2025. Along with TDA’s buyout ending, that will free up roughly 16.4 million.

Plus in 2026 Hayes is off the books and the same for Ellis and Risto in 2027. As long as they doing nothing stupid, yeah, a big if for sure, they will be in excellent cap shape by 25-26.
- BiggE

I would send Atkinson and Deslauriers to Lehigh with Peterson. Take the little savings and let those contracts play out.

Who have the Flyers replaced in the front office/scouting/development ranks, in the last 8 years aside from Pryor, Hextall, and Fletcher?

Country club of incompetence, but thank goodness for those alumni nights.
- flyer_nutter

The litany of bad decisions since 2012 is staggering:

The JVR for Schenn trade

Selecting Morin at 11OA in 2013

Firing Lavi 3 games into 13-14 rather than at the end of the prior season. This would have prevented the signing of VLC

The AMac acquisition and extension

Hiring Hak and keeping him for way too long

Hiring Fletcher which led to AV and Hayes

Paying to lose Ghost so that they could massively overpay to acquire a worse player in Risto. Followed by extending Risto rather than moving him to recoup some assets

Gordon and Yeo

Hiring Torts and putting a glorified cheerleader at the top of the organization.

The bungling of Gauthier

I have zero faith in the Flyers at this point.

Next steps in the rebuild? How bout they take A step towards it.

The litany of bad decisions since 2012 is staggering:

The JVR for Schenn trade

Selecting Morin at 11OA in 2013

Firing Lavi 3 games into 13-14 rather than at the end of the prior season. This would have prevented the signing of VLC

The AMac acquisition and extension

Hiring Hak and keeping him for way too long

Hiring Fletcher which led to AV and Hayes

Paying to lose Ghost so that they could massively overpay to acquire a worse player in Risto. Followed by extending Risto rather than moving him to recoup some assets

Gordon and Yeo

Hiring Torts and putting a glorified cheerleader at the top of the organization.

The bungling of Gauthier

I have zero faith in the Flyers at this point.
- BiggE

Stop it with "the bungling of Gauthier" already. Its well documented by now, the kid has serious character issues. He is entitled and arrogant. The Flyers did nothing wrong in this situation.

Trading Bob was a horrible mistake but the bigger mistake was signing Bryz in the first place.

Re next season, the best thing that can happen is that some vets are dealt, Cam, Peterson and RyJo come completely off the books and the team drops 10 points in the standings and goes into the lottery with a pick in the 5-8 range.
- BiggE

Absolutely! Trading Bob was inevitable after ill advised Bryz signing.

Most Franchises fix a historically awful power play by asking an alumn what they think.

In case anyone was wondering
- Just5

Maybe the could bring Khoblauch back as PP coach? I don't think he's busy.

Torts will try to win every game with the roster he has. Briere controls the roster as GM. My understanding is Ginning is not going back to Sweden, so he must have given a guarantee that he will have a legitimate shot at making the team. Also Briere is high on Grans.
- jd250

the fact you think torts doesn't have the majority say on the nhl roster is funny.

where did you see ginning isn't going back now?

also danny boy never saw or heard of grans prior to the trade. so how many times did he see him this year to be high on him? seem you may be making that part up.

Stop it with "the bungling of Gauthier" already. Its well documented by now, the kid has serious character issues. He is entitled and arrogant. The Flyers did nothing wrong in this situation.
- jd250

Yeah, and the Flyers got a super healthy, top pairing dman in exchange for him. Worked out awesome.

The litany of bad decisions since 2012 is staggering:

The JVR for Schenn trade

Selecting Morin at 11OA in 2013

Firing Lavi 3 games into 13-14 rather than at the end of the prior season. This would have prevented the signing of VLC

The AMac acquisition and extension

Hiring Hak and keeping him for way too long

Hiring Fletcher which led to AV and Hayes

Paying to lose Ghost so that they could massively overpay to acquire a worse player in Risto. Followed by extending Risto rather than moving him to recoup some assets

Gordon and Yeo

Hiring Torts and putting a glorified cheerleader at the top of the organization.

The bungling of Gauthier

I have zero faith in the Flyers at this point.
- BiggE

no issue with that one as it was a bold diff hire. one thing saint ronnie did I liked

Next steps in the rebuild? How bout they take A step towards it.
- Pelle31Forever

how can you rebuild if it was never built?

Stop it with "the bungling of Gauthier" already. Its well documented by now, the kid has serious character issues. He is entitled and arrogant. The Flyers did nothing wrong in this situation.
- jd250

he has zero character issues. flyers messed up big time. dems the facts.

well documented lol.

they did nothing right.

Good luck.
- Tomahawk

Perhaps. The story of this series may be FL's ability to stay out of the box, which will be difficult for them the way they play. For that matter, the way FL plays may get EDM in the box more frequently. We shall see.

If FL can stop their PP like they did the Rags, they'll win this series in 5 or 6. I think it really comes down to that... and of course the goalies. But I don't think Skinner can match his performance of last night again. This may be where EDM get's exposed because FL always has a ton a traffic in front and they have the horses to battle through. Plus, that's where they score most of their goals. Should be a good series, I hope.
- Letterkenney

I agree with this analysis. The cats were stifling in their defense. They just wear you down and wait for a mistake. Give credit to Paul Maurice and his plan. I’d be very surprised in the Oil win the series.

Also, kudos for Bill for getting a little feisty early in the thread. I like it!

Stop it with "the bungling of Gauthier" already. Its well documented by now, the kid has serious character issues. He is entitled and arrogant. The Flyers did nothing wrong in this situation.
- jd250

The kid may be a Richard, but it's on the Flyers to get their draft picks signed

Friedman is saying the Canes may be doing a GM switch by hiring the former CLB GM. The new GM won’t have sole primary decision-making responsibilities. There will be AGM’s and Dundon collaborating with the GM who will function to communicate with other teams. Some potential GMs have been scared off but they still have a long list interested.

Looks like the Flyer blueprint may be the new way forward.

The litany of bad decisions since 2012 is staggering:

The JVR for Schenn trade

Selecting Morin at 11OA in 2013

Firing Lavi 3 games into 13-14 rather than at the end of the prior season. This would have prevented the signing of

The AMac acquisition and extension

Hiring Hak and keeping him for way too long

Hiring Fletcher which led to AV and Hayes

Paying to lose Ghost so that they could massively overpay to acquire a worse player in Risto. Followed by extending Risto rather than moving him to recoup some assets

Gordon and Yeo

Hiring Torts and putting a glorified cheerleader at the top of the organization.

The bungling of Gauthier

I have zero faith in the Flyers at this point.
- BiggE

The only real disagreement here is the Morin pick. Was it a swing for the fence, yeah. But, prior to the knee issues, he was a monster sized D, with a cannon shot, skated decently for a big man, and no one wanted to get hit by him. I wish it would have worked out with him. Alas, the Flyers can’t have nice things. When they do get a high pick, injuries, etc. derail anything positive. Is there any voodoo doctor who can eliminate the curse on this franchise?!?!

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a team won a Cup without tanking literally last year lmao