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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
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Jun 5 @ 12:18 PM ET
Why else would their be rumors about him being traded
- BetweenTheDots


This probably gives the best summary of why he may be traded. Not sure if I buy all of it, but a lot makes sense. Verbeek wants to add more vets to help the rebuild along and Zegras is, I guess, considered the least complete player of their kids.

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...-see-trevor-zegras-traded
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 5 @ 12:21 PM ET
I don't think that a good trade for Anaheim. As mentioned they are basically giving him away. With that said I would do it. Zegras has two years left at 5.75M. If he wants the moon on his next contract, or if he's too much of a tool, then trade him when the time comes.

Also, if Anaheim takes a defenseman at #2, and if Montreal is still hot to trot for Dedimov, trade #3 to them and get another asset from them. Hawks then likely end up with either Lindstrom/Catton/D!ckinson/Yakemchuk, Zegras and possibly Owen Beck.

- boilermaker100


You forgot Eiserman.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 5 @ 12:27 PM ET
I don't think that a good trade for Anaheim. As mentioned they are basically giving him away. With that said I would do it. Zegras has two years left at 5.75M. If he wants the moon on his next contract, or if he's too much of a tool, then trade him when the time comes.

Also, if Anaheim takes a defenseman at #2, and if Montreal is still hot to trot for Dedimov, trade #3 to them and get another asset from them. Hawks then likely end up with either Lindstrom/Catton/D!ckinson/Yakemchuk, Zegras and possibly Owen Beck.

- boilermaker100


I agree if KD puts out the rumors that he's shopping the 2nd OA pick you never know what crazy deal you can shake out of a team. These top picks are rarely for sale. I doubt he would drop any less than 7 but then again the crazier the deal...
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 5 @ 12:30 PM ET
You forgot Eiserman.
- Chunk

Eiserman really plummeted in the draft rankings. He was number two on most rankings but is basically out of the top five of any I’ve read recently. But a guy like Beckett Sennecke has rocketed from later in the second to top 15 on many draft rankings, Iginla is another guy who’s stock has risen all season.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:30 PM ET
I just want to preface all my "early first rounders don't get traded mantra if someone is willing to give the Devils a real goalie for their first-round pick (10th overall) in this year’s draft for one.

The big Prize Jacob Markstrom is in Calgary, but the Flames having picks 9 and 10 still doesn't necessarily mean Tij Iginla.
It does allow them two quality picks.

My Blackhawk concern is also up the middle.
Where is our strength in goal up the middle?

Not the goalie prsopects that Pat Boyle drools over, the highly projected future number one who has shown dominance?

We were gifted an incredible season showing from Mrazek; Has he become the goalie that all his other teams projected him to be, and it just was a matter of maturation?
He is 32 and contract ends after two more.
Is he the plan in a play off run with a new deal?

(I know they are not going send him to Jersey for that #10 and soldier on with the Rockford boyz and Söderblom.)

GM: "Ya, Conner, we want to get you some scoring help, but I hope you don't mind the on the job training in net. We want to win a early pick to get you more scoring..."
DarthKane
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Jun 5 @ 12:34 PM ET
You forgot Eiserman.
- Chunk


The Hawks will get him at #18.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 5 @ 12:35 PM ET
I just want to preface all my "early first rounders don't get traded mantra if someone is willing to give the Devils a real goalie for their first-round pick (10th overall) in this year’s draft for one.

The big Prize Jacob Markstrom is in Calgary, but the Flames having picks 9 and 10 still doesn't necessarily mean Tij Iginla.
It does allow them two quality picks.

My Blackhawk concern is also up the middle.
Where is our strength in goal up the middle?

Not the goalie prsopects that Pat Boyle drools over, the highly projected future number one who has shown dominance?

We were gifted an incredible season showing from Mrazek; Has he become the goalie that all his other teams projected him to be, and it just was a matter of maturation?
He is 32 and contract ends after two more.
Is he the plan in a play off run with a new deal?

(I know they are not going send him to Jersey for that #10 and soldier on with the Rockford boyz and Söderblom.)

GM: "Ya, Conner, we want to get you some scoring help, but I hope you don't mind the on the job training in net. We want to win a early pick to get you more scoring..."

- wiz1901


Mrazek has mentioned that his being healthy all year was the biggest difference in his game. I believe the Hawks trainers identified something that helped him properly rehab his groin/hamstring issues and he had confidence in his body for the first time in a while.
Chunk
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Jun 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
The Hawks will get him at #18.
- DarthKane


Maybe the most interesting thing to watch at the draft is who falls farther: Eiserman or Connolley?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
Nothing indicates that Anton has that offensive potential. Ten playoff games in MHL and he had 0+3. There haven´t been any signs of him being point producer and I don´t think he´ll turn to that in NHL. I can see he could become like Chara in best case scenario but no way near Hedman kind of player. But I could be wrong though.
- MjulQvist


I am hearing his in the hawks three choices, that the Balckhawks may simply take him.

Not expect his reason for being out there to penetrate on the attack, but to allow his defensive partner to not worry if he is the offenseman.

It is one thing to allow attacking offensiveman leeway, but they have to have the security that someoen can cover.

There is no scout on an NHL team who is going to shy away from thinking this giant fleet of foot and balance with that huge wingspan cannot cover more than his share of the ice.

This guy skates like a forward and reads the nice so well.

It is tough to see himas the second over-all pick if you see Chara as the high water mark. He seems smooth on the skates and balance with contact or reaches is really high end.
Now, if you think you have your Stanley Cup defensiev defenseman in him, that is one CHECK.
If you think there is a confindence he gets comfortable enough to drift down and get you some offense as he matures, then you take him...at Two.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
Nothing indicates that Anton has that offensive potential. Ten playoff games in MHL and he had 0+3. There haven´t been any signs of him being point producer and I don´t think he´ll turn to that in NHL. I can see he could become like Chara in best case scenario but no way near Hedman kind of player. But I could be wrong though.
- MjulQvist


I am hearing his in the hawks three choices, that the Balckhawks may simply take him.

Not expect his reason for being out there to penetrate on the attack, but to allow his defensive partner to not worry if he is the offenseman.

It is one thing to allow attacking offensiveman leeway, but they have to have the security that someoen can cover.

There is no scout on an NHL team who is going to shy away from thinking this giant fleet of foot and balance with that huge wingspan cannot cover more than his share of the ice.

This guy skates like a forward and reads the nice so well.

It is tough to see himas the second over-all pick if you see Chara as the high water mark. He seems smooth on the skates and balance with contact or reaches is really high end.
Now, if you think you have your Stanley Cup defensiev defenseman in him, that is one CHECK.
If you think there is a confindence he gets comfortable enough to drift down and get you some offense as he matures, then you take him...at Two.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
Nothing indicates that Anton has that offensive potential. Ten playoff games in MHL and he had 0+3. There haven´t been any signs of him being point producer and I don´t think he´ll turn to that in NHL. I can see he could become like Chara in best case scenario but no way near Hedman kind of player. But I could be wrong though.
- MjulQvist


I am hearing his in the hawks three choices, that the Balckhawks may simply take him.

Not expect his reason for being out there to penetrate on the attack, but to allow his defensive partner to not worry if he is the offenseman.

It is one thing to allow attacking offensiveman leeway, but they have to have the security that someoen can cover.

There is no scout on an NHL team who is going to shy away from thinking this giant fleet of foot and balance with that huge wingspan cannot cover more than his share of the ice.

This guy skates like a forward and reads the nice so well.

It is tough to see himas the second over-all pick if you see Chara as the high water mark. He seems smooth on the skates and balance with contact or reaches is really high end.
Now, if you think you have your Stanley Cup defensiev defenseman in him, that is one CHECK.
If you think there is a confindence he gets comfortable enough to drift down and get you some offense as he matures, then you take him...at Two.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
Nothing indicates that Anton has that offensive potential. Ten playoff games in MHL and he had 0+3. There haven´t been any signs of him being point producer and I don´t think he´ll turn to that in NHL. I can see he could become like Chara in best case scenario but no way near Hedman kind of player. But I could be wrong though.
- MjulQvist


I am hearing his in the hawks three choices, that the Balckhawks may simply take him.

Not expect his reason for being out there to penetrate on the attack, but to allow his defensive partner to not worry if he is the offenseman.

It is one thing to allow attacking offensiveman leeway, but they have to have the security that someoen can cover.

There is no scout on an NHL team who is going to shy away from thinking this giant fleet of foot and balance with that huge wingspan cannot cover more than his share of the ice.

This guy skates like a forward and reads the nice so well.

It is tough to see himas the second over-all pick if you see Chara as the high water mark. He seems smooth on the skates and balance with contact or reaches is really high end.
Now, if you think you have your Stanley Cup defensiev defenseman in him, that is one CHECK.
If you think there is a confindence he gets comfortable enough to drift down and get you some offense as he matures, then you take him...at Two.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:50 PM ET
Nothing indicates that Anton has that offensive potential. Ten playoff games in MHL and he had 0+3. There haven´t been any signs of him being point producer and I don´t think he´ll turn to that in NHL. I can see he could become like Chara in best case scenario but no way near Hedman kind of player. But I could be wrong though.
- MjulQvist


I am hearing his in the hawks three choices, that the Balckhawks may simply take him.

Not expect his reason for being out there to penetrate on the attack, but to allow his defensive partner to not worry if he is the offenseman.

It is one thing to allow attacking offensiveman leeway, but they have to have the security that someoen can cover.

There is no scout on an NHL team who is going to shy away from thinking this giant fleet of foot and balance with that huge wingspan cannot cover more than his share of the ice.

This guy skates like a forward and reads the nice so well.

It is tough to see himas the second over-all pick if you see Chara as the high water mark. He seems smooth on the skates and balance with contact or reaches is really high end.
Now, if you think you have your Stanley Cup defensiev defenseman in him, that is one CHECK.
If you think there is a confindence he gets comfortable enough to drift down and get you some offense as he matures, then you take him...at Two.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
Nothing indicates that Anton has that offensive potential. Ten playoff games in MHL and he had 0+3. There haven´t been any signs of him being point producer and I don´t think he´ll turn to that in NHL. I can see he could become like Chara in best case scenario but no way near Hedman kind of player. But I could be wrong though.
- MjulQvist



What if teams see Anton Silayev as the Stanley Cup defensive horse, one who allows a defensive partner to BE the offensive attacker?

You can have jump up and in defenseman, but they have to be confident their partner can take care of business in the middle zone, and dropping back on the entire width of the sheet.

Silayev has no issues doing that. He is SO fluid, such a wing span and his stick, his balance forced against opposing puck carriers are him bread and butter. This big bodied plug is going to work for 60 minutes engaging.

After he gets accumstomed in the pros, he will relax and be allowed to build some offense.
Anton Silayev plays both sides.


(BTW, Chara had a couple 50 point seasons.)
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 5 @ 1:01 PM ET
Maybe the most interesting thing to watch at the draft is who falls farther: Eiserman or Connolley?
- Chunk


Connelly very well may be completely off some NHL team's list.

I got a feeling Eiserman isn't dropping as the smoke screems start blowing in the air...
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:06 PM ET
If the Ducks offered Zegras and their 3rd OA, for our 2nd OA pick would you make the deal?
- BetweenTheDots

No
Scott1977
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Jun 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
The Hawks will get him at #18.
- DarthKane

Is eiserman another kaliev from L.A just a better skater?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:17 PM ET
Connelly very well may be completely off some NHL team's list.

I got a feeling Eiserman isn't dropping as the smoke screems start blowing in the air...

- wiz1901


The more I look at it, this draft seems awfully similar to 2019, but with more D depth and less F. A few guys that turn into really good players, but most are underwhelming for 1st rounders and need a lot of development time.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
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Jun 5 @ 1:19 PM ET
Is eiserman another kaliev from L.A just a better skater?
- Scott1977


Sounds more like a shorter version of Laine.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:00 PM ET
Some folks are overly excited when they exclaim that the Blackhawks could challenge for a playoff spot next season

We will be better on paper but the entire league is going to be better whether some teams slide a bit and others rise a notch or two. And we better be an improved team because the same cast would finish dead last.

A thorough review after next season includes how new players filtered in and more newbies shall follow. For the most part we are looking at prospects stepping into the lineup but other young players hopefully show improvement incrementally. With injuries always needing to be factored into the equation I hope whatever KD does about adding a couple of useful veterans is not offset by yes - injuries

The final month or perhaps more like the final handful of games I imagine Moore, Greene and possibly a couple more of our collegiate prospects enter the lineup. With Hayes and maybe a couple AHL players getting a cup of coffee at some point during the season, there is likely a significant number of younger players who will be pushing to take a job from someone else

I cannot say in two years we will be challenging for a playoff spot just yet but we should be very encouraged seeing more and more youngsters stepping up

And with this said just want to say 6628 and Steve Rain thank goodness Blackhawks have a boatload of good prospects unlike the dearth of genuine prospects White Sox and Cubs often pretended to have
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jun 5 @ 3:09 PM ET
Some folks are overly excited when they exclaim that the Blackhawks could challenge for a playoff spot next season

We will be better on paper but the entire league is going to be better whether some teams slide a bit and others rise a notch or two. And we better be an improved team because the same cast would finish dead last.

A thorough review after next season includes how new players filtered in and more newbies shall follow. For the most part we are looking at prospects stepping into the lineup but other young players hopefully show improvement incrementally. With injuries always needing to be factored into the equation I hope whatever KD does about adding a couple of useful veterans is not offset by yes - injuries

The final month or perhaps more like the final handful of games I imagine Moore, Greene and possibly a couple more of our collegiate prospects enter the lineup. With Hayes and maybe a couple AHL players getting a cup of coffee at some point during the season, there is likely a significant number of younger players who will be pushing to take a job from someone else

I cannot say in two years we will be challenging for a playoff spot just yet but we should be very encouraged seeing more and more youngsters stepping up

And with this said just want to say 6628 and Steve Rain thank goodness Blackhawks have a boatload of good prospects unlike the dearth of genuine prospects White Sox and Cubs often pretended to have

- jhawk59



Tell ya Hawk, baseball season for me doesn't start until the cup gets won.




bjphawkfan
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.02.2016

Jun 5 @ 3:12 PM ET
Can you imagine if everyone on this board were a GM? The crazy trades that would be made? Bet we wouldn't last a season!
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 5 @ 3:13 PM ET
Some folks are overly excited when they exclaim that the Blackhawks could challenge for a playoff spot next season

We will be better on paper but the entire league is going to be better whether some teams slide a bit and others rise a notch or two. And we better be an improved team because the same cast would finish dead last.

A thorough review after next season includes how new players filtered in and more newbies shall follow. For the most part we are looking at prospects stepping into the lineup but other young players hopefully show improvement incrementally. With injuries always needing to be factored into the equation I hope whatever KD does about adding a couple of useful veterans is not offset by yes - injuries

The final month or perhaps more like the final handful of games I imagine Moore, Greene and possibly a couple more of our collegiate prospects enter the lineup. With Hayes and maybe a couple AHL players getting a cup of coffee at some point during the season, there is likely a significant number of younger players who will be pushing to take a job from someone else

I cannot say in two years we will be challenging for a playoff spot just yet but we should be very encouraged seeing more and more youngsters stepping up

And with this said just want to say 6628 and Steve Rain thank goodness Blackhawks have a boatload of good prospects unlike the dearth of genuine prospects White Sox and Cubs often pretended to have

- jhawk59


Huh? You can either have one or the other, but not both. Either the entire league gets better, or some teams don't.

The Hawks will certainly be different team next year. They have only 10 forwards that regularly played on the roster signed for next year and four defensemen. Better? We'll see how much. I'm not under any delusions that they will improve 46 points or whatever it was to challenge for a playoff spot, but I can easily see a much better result than last year.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
Can you imagine if everyone on this board were a GM? The crazy trades that would be made? Bet we wouldn't last a season!
- bjphawkfan


I'd go with the "communism" roster where everyone gets paid the same ~$3.5M. It would be great for the first month or so, but would fall apart in short order.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jun 5 @ 3:40 PM ET
Huh? You can either have one or the other, but not both. Either the entire league gets better, or some teams don't.

The Hawks will certainly be different team next year. They have only 10 forwards that regularly played on the roster signed for next year and four defensemen. Better? We'll see how much. I'm not under any delusions that they will improve 46 points or whatever it was to challenge for a playoff spot, but I can easily see a much better result than last year.

- Chunk

Plenty of teams are going to get worse (Vegas, Edmonton, Florida, Carolina). The Blackhawks will have addition by subtraction (Zaitsev, Megna, Tinordi, Johnson), addition by addition, and growth from within (full season of Nazar, development from Korchinski, Kaiser, Slaggert, Reichel).
I’d love to get a guy like DeBrusk who won’t hamstring the cap for years, or an older vet like Perron, Toffoli, or Duchene just give Bedard someone to pass to on the power player besides Nazar.
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