Is eiserman another kaliev from L.A just a better skater?
- Scott1977

"Kailev". wishes his shot was as accurate...

Elliott Friedman is saying he thinks the Blackhawks will be signing Guentzel on July 1st.

Thoughts??
- dahawks8819

Man, Bedsy would have a real outlet to get the pass to...

Idon'y want to qualify this one....

Man, Bedsy would have a real outlet pass...
- wiz1901

Wiz am I still on the hook?

Wiz am I still on the hook?
- Scott1977

For whatt again? I love all the pre draft process.

I am still repeating the last Saginaw - London game.

There are tons of thinsg to like in the draft group...and we shopuld be happy we get to go #2, no matter if a player further down becomes the best player in the class...they are going to control their fate...no, "at least we tried" from the Tallon era...

For whatt again? I love all the pre draft process.

I am still repeating the last Saginaw - London game.

There are tons of thinsg to like in the draft group...and we shopuld be happy we get to go #2, no matter if a player further down becomes the best player in the class...they are going to control their fate...no, "at least we tried" from the Tallon era...
- wiz1901

You mentioned it in previous post that I was on the hook for something

I take Lindstrom at 2 I know I'm in the minority and take a dman at 18 and 34 or 50
- Scott1977

If the do go forward at #2, i don't think that solidifies defenseman at #18 as the selection. You want every forward you draft to have the Blues' Robert Thomas ability and upside. I am not so sure you will find that type upside in 2nd round forwards....

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Now at #34 and #50, a team CAN build their big defense for a decade....as in St Louis Blues grabs late of big solid defenders who helped for years on their backline in Joel Edmundson and Colton Parayko.

(Don't ask me how that became a Blues solyloquy.)

Elliott Friedman is saying he thinks the Blackhawks will be signing Guentzel on July 1st.

Thoughts??
- dahawks8819

Oh god I hope it’s not 8 years. He’s approaching 30 and this is where Huberdeau type mistakes get made.

Oh god I hope it’s not 8 years. He’s approaching 30 and this is where Huberdeau type mistakes get made.
- ObeseOprah

Jeff Skinner is available for only $32M worth of contract left. Buffalo might throw something else good in to the team willing to take that contract off their books.

Jeff Skinner is available for only $32M worth of contract left. Buffalo might throw something else good in to the team willing to take that contract off their books.
- RickJ

Id be fine with that, their tenth pick (its tenth right?) should be a good player. Skinner is a good middle six winger, he’s just a luxury player though, all skill no jam. His skating is outstanding though so maybe that appeals to Kyle.

Id be fine with that, their tenth pick (its tenth right?) should be a good player. Skinner is a good middle six winger, he’s just a luxury player though, all skill no jam. His skating is outstanding though so maybe that appeals to Kyle.
- ObeseOprah

He has never played a playoff game so he wouldn't be out of place.

Buffalo also has some pretty good prospects in their system too.

Id be fine with that, their tenth pick (its tenth right?) should be a good player. Skinner is a good middle six winger, he’s just a luxury player though, all skill no jam. His skating is outstanding though so maybe that appeals to Kyle.
- ObeseOprah

Gambling to pay a lot of dollars to a player who has a concussion history. To get the tenth overall a costly move for both teams but Buffalo should do it as they will need to pay many good young players. Buffalo has amassed lots of good young talent

Verbeek may want to trade him to get a more veteran presence on the team, but he doesn't need to and knows that he is an in-demand asset. They aren't under the gun on the cap or roster space. It's not remotely realistic to think you are getting him simply to move up one spot. Straight up for the #2 you probably have a deal (one that I would not make).

He's made some small strides in attempting to be a bit more sound defensively, but I don't think that's enough to get KD interested. You already have Bedard as a guy who is mostly offense. I don't think you can have many of those on a team and still be competitive. The Hawks had Kane (and Versteeg, but he was normally sheltered). Everyone else played at least a respectable 200' game. You also see it this year with EDM finally realizing you aren't going to play a lot of 6-5 games in the playoffs.
- Chunk

We all think offense when we think of EDM, but 1/2 way into the last series EDM had allowed the least amount of scoring chances and the least amount of high danger chances of ALL the playoff teams!!

This is not your daddy's Oiler squad. Indeed, they (McD & The Kraut) figured it out and are bought in and here they are in the Finals. ...... And with Skinner in goal they better think shut down good scoring chances.

Gambling to pay a lot of dollars to a player who has a concussion history. To get the tenth overall a costly move for both teams but Buffalo should do it as they will need to pay many good young players. Buffalo has amassed lots of good young talent
- jhawk59

What difference might there be in goal scoring ability on the Blackhawks roster comparing last season to next season

If Guentzel comes here and both Nazar and Hayes can contribute

But I expect that Hall and Foligno to befallen with injuries.

If we actually did acquire a tenth overall I say 50/50 chance Eiserman is available

Lots of rumours coming out of Montreal that Kent Hughes covets Demidov. I haven’t heard which direction KD is leaning? If Demidov isn’t his guy and Montreal comes knocking there are a few prospects I’d love to see on the Hawks. Florian Xhekaj, Arber’s brother, a LW who played with Nick Lardis in Brantford, 6’4 a point a game guy, meaner than his brother is one guy I’d like to see. Lane Hutson, a dynamic defenseman who is unlikely available, but he’d be a steal. David Reinbacher would be a nice pickup but again may be too pricey foot Montreal to give up on. And Owen Beck a center from Saginaw, a strong two way player. One of those prospects along with Montreal’s fifth pick may be a good return.

I keep hearing this Anton Silayev is 6'7" with the wingspan of an eagle and can really skate. I prefer North Americans or Swedes to draft but if this kid can be Viktor Hedman the 2nd thats who I'd be taking. Anchor your D for a decade.

Kotkaniemi went 3rd overall in 2018 because idiot Marc Bergevin decided the Habs needed a center. He was never ranked that high by the scouts. He's nowhwere close to Aho or Svechnikov but at worst he is a 3C. And Staal is getting up in years so Carolina might want to hang in with Kotkaniemi.
- RickJ

Firsty, there is no comparable to Siliyev. He is really 1 of 1. Nobody over 6ft 5in has ever moved like this kid. He had the most points EVER for a 17 yr old in the KHL, and that's counting forwards, but he's no Hedman, probably the best ever Dman over 6ft 4in.

But that doesn't mean he won't be a fantastic top 4, maybe 1st pairing, Dman. Now, if he hits a ceiling of 50ish pts and run the top PP and skate 25:00 per game vs the top opponents at 6ft 7in with a bit of a mean streak and physical play is that worth the #2? ..... IMO hell yea, but that's his ceiling. Nice high floor though so he'll be a solid 2nd pairing 25:00 a night guy.

Kotkiniemi has evolved a good bit. Thought to be a solid 200 ft centerman he's shown in the Bigs the points just ain't there so he evolved. Kid, at 6ft 3ish(?) 200lbs played a super physical game in the playoffs along with solid 200 ft play as a centerman. ... He was so physical I thought the PBP guy was calling the wrong player.

He dropped from his best ever season last yr of 43 pts down to 27 this yr in his 6th NHL season as a 23 yr old!!! Didn't look at his fancies but I see a solid 3C who can play in all situations, doesn't need sheltering but at 4.8 per he's overpaid and he has waaaay too much term.

Unless CAR absorbed 2 mil per, and they ain't gonna, I pass on the solid Finn.

Silayev is moving up the rankings. Couple have him up to the #2. But wait, isn't he about to be drafted into the Russian army, or locked behind the iron curtain

- vabeachbear

All you guys who keep citing that no Russian hasn't made it to NA, and you guys are right. But, you wanna take the chance with the #TWO that your guy isn't the first one that gets conscripted into Putin's wars and gets maimed or killed? He has conscripted players before who wanna leave the fatherland ..... Or the rumor a Russian must reup his passport every couple yrs and to do that you gotta be on the homeland soil?

I'm risk intolerant with the #2 but if KD ain't, like many of you who point out Russians make it over, Demidov is a Hawk.

Firsty, there is no comparable to Siliyev. He is really 1 of 1. Nobody over 6ft 5in has ever moved like this kid. He had the most points EVER for a 17 yr old in the KHL, and that's counting forwards, but he's no Hedman, probably the best ever Dman over 6ft 4in.
But that doesn't mean he won't be a fantastic top 4, maybe 1st pairing, Dman. Now, if he hits a ceiling of 50ish pts and run the top PP and skate 25:00 per game vs the top opponents at 6ft 7in with a bit of a mean streak and physical play is that worth the #2? ..... IMO hell yea, but that's his ceiling. Nice high floor though so he'll be a solid 2nd pairing 25:00 a night guy.
- Mr Ricochet

((This (and our other draft discussions) are further evidence that Mr. Ricochet and I should have planned podcasts.))

There is nothng I can disagree with in what have said above.

Don't convince yourself that the team selecting #2 won't take

I have to be realistic, yet no one here wants to trade for him?
- BetweenTheDots

I was sure the Hawks were taking Zegras at #3 but they drafted Dach. Zegras was the closest I've seen to Kane with his playmaking and thought the Hawks would bite. Not only that but Zegras fell to #9!!

Watched him live with the Caufield, Hughes, Turcotte, Boldy NTDP clubs. Kid was other worldy on many occasions outplaying everyone on the ice. His skill/vision/offensive IQ can not be debated, he's the real deal at the NHL level on that account. No doubt point per game skills.

I'd take him on the Hawks but as always what is the cost to acquire him and what kinda contract is he gonna require?..... He may blossom into a decent 2 way player while piling up pts but is he a core guy you pay north of 10 mil for cuz there will be a time when he gets to a pt per he's gonna want that kinda dough? Going by what we've seen of him in the Bigs do you wanna gamble a big contract with term for Zegras.

I'm ok with acquiring him for a fair price on a bridge deal to see what he does/is with the Hawks but no long term deal right off the bat. .... He's your Demidov for Bedard and if acquired the Hawks would go D in the draft. If it works out perfectly you have a Demidov in Zegras and a #1 Dman in Levshunov.

And I say this thinking there is no surprise when Demidov is a 100+ point NHLer and a top 5 big leaguer. ........

Lots of rumours coming out of Montreal that Kent Hughes covets Demidov. I haven’t heard which direction KD is leaning If Demidov isn’t his guy and Montreal comes knocking there are a few prospects .....
- paulr

Do not get me started because I just saw Habs' prospect Beck and i really like the way he is cut, in his play and offensive smarts. (And I didn't yet rave of how well this Centre can win in the face off dot.)
You saw for a few minutes in my 7 round mock draft, I had Lane Hutson's little brother Chicago bound with pick #18.

Well, the Montreal wants to send Beck, and #5 for Demidov, I will find solice in player not taken in the two slots between that second overall. Am I as GM tearing up because the two Gms in #3 & #4 selected Artyom Levshunov and Anton Silayev, and Cayden Lindstrom lingers until #5?

Oh,what if the guy left at #5 is Anton Silayev,

Oh, ya' don't like him?
then,
choose between Zeev Buium, Cole Eiserman, Zayne Parekh, Tij Iginla, Carter Yakemchuk, or Sam Richardinson. You see where I was driving to in this the trade scenario?

Hawks take a promising junior C in exchange for #2 and the option at #5 to select one of the options above.

I was sure the Hawks were taking Zegras at #3 but they drafted Dach. Zegras was the closest I've seen to Kane with his playmaking and thought the Hawks would bite. Not only that but Zegras fell to #9!!

- Mr Ricochet

Kirby Dach and Zegras were not of the same DRAFT class (yr.)

Lots of rumours coming out of Montreal that Kent Hughes covets Demidov. I haven’t heard which direction KD is leaning? If Demidov isn’t his guy and Montreal comes knocking there are a few prospects I’d love to see on the Hawks. Florian Xhekaj, Arber’s brother, a LW who played with Nick Lardis in Brantford, 6’4 a point a game guy, meaner than his brother is one guy I’d like to see. Lane Hutson, a dynamic defenseman who is unlikely available, but he’d be a steal. David Reinbacher would be a nice pickup but again may be too pricey foot Montreal to give up on. And Owen Beck a center from Saginaw, a strong two way player. One of those prospects along with Montreal’s fifth pick may be a good return.
- paulr

Beck and guhle, Hutson not going anywhere. Hawks get two young players and draft pick one can play now the other a year away maybe. Plus if I m not mistaken guhle can play both ld and rd. It would have to be overwhelming offer for Davidson to trade the 2nd overall pick.

Lots of rumours coming out of Montreal that Kent Hughes covets Demidov. I haven’t heard which direction KD is leaning? If Demidov isn’t his guy and Montreal comes knocking there are a few prospects I’d love to see on the Hawks. Florian Xhekaj, Arber’s brother, a LW who played with Nick Lardis in Brantford, 6’4 a point a game guy, meaner than his brother is one guy I’d like to see. Lane Hutson, a dynamic defenseman who is unlikely available, but he’d be a steal. David Reinbacher would be a nice pickup but again may be too pricey foot Montreal to give up on. And Owen Beck a center from Saginaw, a strong two way player. One of those prospects along with Montreal’s fifth pick may be a good return.
- paulr

Beck and Guhle, Hutson not going anywhere. Hawks get two young players and draft pick one can play now the other a year away maybe. Plus if I m not mistaken guhle can play both ld and rd. It would have to be overwhelming offer for Davidson to trade the 2nd overall pick.
- Scott1977

I just want Beck.
I am taken a draft slot and then taking the best player available. I may not come out with two dominant attacking forwards but like Beck's looks even if the selection at #5 goes with a rearguards name.



Don't need Guile, Svenguollie, any other habullie.
No North Barrington Lane, because we can grab little brother Cole Hutson with #18....

Kirby Dach and Zegras were not of the same DRAFT class (yr.)
- wiz1901

Zegras and Dach were of the same draft, Wiz. https://www.eliteprospect...raft/nhl-entry-draft/2019

You were mistaken this time but with my pickled mind I'm very appreciative of corrections.

Looking at that crazy draft for the NTDP I had forgotten Knight was part of that club. He went 13th.

((This (and our other draft discussions) are further evidence that Mr. Ricochet and I should have planned podcasts.))

There is nothng I can disagree with in what have said above.

Don't convince yourself that the team selecting #2 won't take
- wiz1901

That Hedman is the gold standard for comparing the top D draft prospects every yr says much. These comparisons IMO underrates Hedman who has simply produced at a super high level over a decade while winning cups.

Wiz, simply said I ain't in your league although when handicapping a race (prospects), any race, I use my own homework when placing my bet........ I remember hearing you on JJ's podcast and you needed 6 mouths to share everything you wanted to. Brought a smile to my face.

So he's another Vlasic?
- Chunk

No, Siliyev is bigger than Vlasic skates much much better, even as good a skater as Vlasic is, he's meaner and much more physical and has set the points record for 17 yr olds in the KHL, the 2nd best league in the world........ Forget who but someone I respect in evaluating said Siliyev is the physical freak of this draft and from what I've seen I agree.

I hope the Hawks are doing their due diligence on Siliyev. Very real chance he's an NHL difference maker but he's a Russian so I pass. But if they do draft him I get a helluva dopamine hit and am all in ..... Can not miss with the #2 pick.