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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jun 3 @ 7:59 PM ET
Stamkos is not what we need
- mr.sir


But Jenner is?

Stfu idiot

Neither is ever happening. Stop
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 3 @ 8:13 PM ET
YARNCOCK
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 3 @ 8:16 PM ET
But Jenner is?

Stfu idiot

Neither is ever happening. Stop

- .HOHO.

What a rude little goof

Totally uncalled for
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 3 @ 8:58 PM ET
What about Marner to the Jets for a package that includes Ehlers?
- TheUltimateJet

Go on…..🤔

Needs to include Lowry 😃
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:17 PM ET
Oh so now we think marner will wave to go to Winnipeg?

Cool
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 3 @ 9:18 PM ET
We want the Chronic - what - cles of Narnia!
oldstyle
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Just outside the asylum, ON
Joined: 08.19.2013

Jun 3 @ 9:32 PM ET
If, as EF alludes to, they are afraid to make a move because of fan reaction, we are well and truly screwed.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 3 @ 10:20 PM ET
If, as EF alludes to, they are afraid to make a move because of fan reaction, we are well and truly screwed.
- oldstyle

He didnt saw anything about being afraid to do a move due to fan reaction.
He said they dont want to make a trade based on emotion like some in management feel they did with kadri.
He also said they arent willing to lose the trade.
Both points above are good
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jun 3 @ 10:30 PM ET
He didnt saw anything about being afraid to do a move due to fan reaction.
He said they dont want to make a trade based on emotion like some in management feel they did with kadri.
He also said they arent willing to lose the trade.
Both points above are good

- Fakepartofme


I dont think you win a trade with Marner. It's more a cap/business trade not so much a hockey trade. The win comes more in altering and balancing the roster moving out the
High salary and reallocating that money.

Far as Kadri goes wasnt a great return but beyond the right move for a number of factors and reasons. If management cant make hard decisions because they are worried over past moves years ago then time for a management clean house again. Cant make hard decisions then get out!!
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 3 @ 10:44 PM ET
Whatever.

Run it back for the ninth time. Because leopards change their spots.

- fifty__missions

what choice do the Leafs have if he says NO ...... ????


but to Run It Back Baby! RIBB !!!!
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 3 @ 11:48 PM ET
If, as EF alludes to, they are afraid to make a move because of fan reaction, we are well and truly screwed.
- oldstyle


EF says that the concern is about how fans/media will react if Marner went into next season without an extension.

That's part of the discussion with Marner's camp .... if both sides agree to let the last year play out .....does he want to deal with the negative attention?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 4 @ 7:31 AM ET
sounds like a fun season on pissing off the fans

Marner plans to honor the final year of his contract with the Leafs.

Despite fan speculation, Mitch Marner’s camp is not pursuing trade options or contract extensions. His agent, Darren Ferris, has confirmed there are no active discussions about a potential trade or extension this summer. Instead, Marner aims to start the upcoming season and evaluate the situation as it unfolds.


if there is any truth to this
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 4 @ 7:31 AM ET
I dont think you win a trade with Marner. It's more a cap/business trade not so much a hockey trade. The win comes more in altering and balancing the roster moving out the
High salary and reallocating that money.

Far as Kadri goes wasnt a great return but beyond the right move for a number of factors and reasons. If management cant make hard decisions because they are worried over past moves years ago then time for a management clean house again. Cant make hard decisions then get out!!

- Roadrunner75

A 99pt winger isnt being traded just to get cap space. Hes moved for the right pieces.
Maybe the hard decision is to not trade marner.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 4 @ 7:33 AM ET
EF says that the concern is about how fans/media will react if Marner went into next season without an extension.

That's part of the discussion with Marner's camp .... if both sides agree to let the last year play out .....does he want to deal with the negative attention?

- The Law

The fans would react the same way they did for willie last year, who went into the season with no extension. No real reaction.
The supposed "fan outrage" is all bs media end of season filler.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 4 @ 7:34 AM ET
sounds like a fun season on pissing off the fans



if there is any truth to this

- senstroll

Dunno.
Where is it from, who said or wrote it?


winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 4 @ 7:40 AM ET
A 99pt winger isnt being traded just to get cap space. Hes moved for the right pieces.
Maybe the hard decision is to not trade marner.

- Fakepartofme


It's the likely decision. Leafs are a very frustrating team. I would venture that the Leafs' swear jar will be filling up nicely with Berube around.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 4 @ 7:57 AM ET
Dunno.
Where is it from, who said or wrote it?

- Fakepartofme


https://x.com/Leafslatest...tatus/1797794640831090870


Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 4 @ 8:01 AM ET
https://x.com/Leafslatest/status/1797794640831090870
- senstroll

Sooo
Probably not much to it
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 4 @ 8:02 AM ET
Sooo
Probably not much to it

- Fakepartofme


well if Marner (again) wasnt to super max his contract, thats the way to put the pressure on
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 4 @ 8:04 AM ET
It's the likely decision. Leafs are a very frustrating team. I would venture that the Leafs' swear jar will be filling up nicely with Berube around.

- winsix

Ya they probably give marner a year under Berube to see how things turn out.
Run it all back.
Where are all the "look how long it took Washington and Colorado" people now?
Lol
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 4 @ 8:07 AM ET
well if Marner (again) wasnt to super max his contract, thats the way to put the pressure on
- senstroll

Meh, Lou screwed him out of cash and then Dubas was an easy carpet to walk all over in negotiatings.
Whats a Toronto player to do
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 4 @ 8:57 AM ET
Sooo
Probably not much to it

- Fakepartofme

Lebrun quoting his agent isn't much?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 4 @ 9:13 AM ET
Lebrun quoting his agent isn't much?
- AdamFrench



Nah, it's only big news when the story is first reported on HB... Ferris is just looking to be in the spotlight again
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

Jun 4 @ 9:26 AM ET
So the agent of the player who struggles when the pressure gets cranked up in the playoffs is saying they aren't looking at trade options (not surprising) nor any extension this summer? The 2nd part makes zero sense, I can't see Marner wanting to have this play out as a distraction all season long.

Either the quote is a partial one to build a narrative (this is what I think it more likely is than anything) or Marner has just grown up to make stupid decisions on his own (or has been convinced by someone like Daddy and agent that this is the path to a fat new contract.

IF this is true regardless of who crafted this plan it is insanely risky IMO because unlike Nylander who has a "I Don't GAF" attitude, Marner wears his emotions on his sleeve.

If the pitch/thought was 'let it cool down and the fans forget about the playoffs when you rack up points in the regular season we can easily get the fans on our side and you will get the huge raise you want/we have convinced you that you deserve Mitch because the Leafs will be the bad guys if they don't give it to you just like last time" then this will be some grade A soap opera of a season - especially if Marner struggles at all.

This can't be true - Marner seems like the type who would want to start the year without this being something he gets asked about endlessly. Guess we will see.



senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 4 @ 9:30 AM ET
So the agent of the player who struggles when the pressure gets cranked up in the playoffs is saying they aren't looking at trade options (not surprising) nor any extension this summer? The 2nd part makes zero sense, I can't see Marner wanting to have this play out as a distraction all season long.

Either the quote is a partial one to build a narrative (this is what I think it more likely is than anything) or Marner has just grown up to make stupid decisions on his own (or has been convinced by someone like Daddy and agent that this is the path to a fat new contract.

IF this is true regardless of who crafted this plan it is insanely risky IMO because unlike Nylander who has a "I Don't GAF" attitude, Marner wears his emotions on his sleeve.

If the pitch/thought was 'let it cool down and the fans forget about the playoffs when you rack up points in the regular season we can easily get the fans on our side and you will get the huge raise you want/we have convinced you that you deserve Mitch because the Leafs will be the bad guys if they don't give it to you just like last time" then this will be some grade A soap opera of a season - especially if Marner struggles at all.

This can't be true - Marner seems like the type who would want to start the year without this being something he gets asked about endlessly. Guess we will see.

- Cush29


The agent is going to do/say whatever he needs to in order to drive up the price.

and implying that Marner would be fine walking for nothing and then making a decision as a UFA is easily the best way to do that.

who flinches first?
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