Why would he booed if he continues to rack up points at a greater rate than just about any player in Leaf history? SBA is filled with fans looking for goals and great plays not trades.
- Canada Cup

Points don’t matter too much to their new coach Berube if it isn’t brought to the game with physical play as well. That’s a truth like it or not.

It’s done, he’s not a physical player so he doesn’t match his new coach’s game plain and simple. How much longer is the only question.
- Dozzer

I think if you consider that he won't consider signing an extension this off-season(assuming one was to be offered), that management has to believe that a trade is the only option.

They can't let him walk for nothing, and they can't let it drag on into the season.. It will become a distraction.

Sooo
Probably not much to it
- Fakepartofme

Probably not ...but it's Lebrun suggesting that it's coming straight from Ferris/Marner camp.

It's negotiating. Marner is going to say I hold all the leverage and you pay me XX or I bet on myself. Why would it go any different than last time.

Right because Willy was the one who has told the media here that he doesn't care what they think or write....oh wait nevermind.

If you think the media (say Steve Simmonds for instance) are just going to say "oh ok Mitch we won't ask about that question every fan of this team is wondering about" I have to say I think of all the illogical things on here that one wins the prize for today so far.
- Cush29

Like i said, some still asked during the season, but he rarely answered and willie wasnt bombarded constantly. I see the same for marner if he uses that same approach. Most will respect his ask (if he doesnt piss and moan about the media), some like douchebag Simmonds may still ask.
But this nonsense that the fans and media will be an uproar all season is just BS.
Drama queens seeking drama.

Why would he booed if he continues to rack up points at a greater rate than just about any player in Leaf history? SBA is filled with fans looking for goals and great plays not trades.
- Canada Cup

Murphy put up 100 points his two seasons and Toronto, do you think he was loved?

I think if you consider that he won't consider signing an extension this off-season(assuming one was to be offered), that management has to believe that a trade is the only option.

They can't let him walk for nothing, and they can't let it drag on into the season.. It will become a distraction.
- PatC80

Management doesn’t make decisions to make media or the fanbase happy. Media tries to say otherwise but they’re full of poop on that one.

Management doesn’t make decisions to make media or the fanbase happy. Media tries to say otherwise but they’re full of poop on that one.
- Dozzer

I agree with that. I do think that letting it drag out into the season will be a distraction for the team, not just Marner.

I agree with that. I do think that letting it drag out into the season will be a distraction for the team, not just Marner.
- PatC80

Reinhardt about to be an UFA. FLorida doing ok

Probably not ...but it's Lebrun suggesting that it's coming straight from Ferris/Marner camp.

It's negotiating. Marner is going to say I hold all the leverage and you pay me XX or I bet on myself. Why would it go any different than last time.
- The Law

Oh of course there is going to be this back and forth nonsense...some of which will play out in the media. But it will just be nonsense....stuff to generate hits and clicks.

Until July 1st, im not paying attention or buying into anything that is said, it will mostly be posturing and desperately trying to generate discussion.

If the leafs get a great trade offer and he agrees to waive, move him. But i think they wait to see how it plays out under Berube and a new vision.
But we'll see

Reinhardt about to be an UFA. FLorida doing ok
- drexel

Reinhart is also not a scapegoat, like Marner is.

Murphy put up 100 points his two seasons and Toronto, do you think he was loved?
- PatC80

Ya he was 99pt wizard here.
Different time, the arena isnt the only place for fans to release their displeasure and ticket prices limit those who can go to games.
If marner is smart, shuts his mouth, plays it out like hes a team guy and continues to be over a ppg. He'll be fine, fans have short term memories and they'll cheer.

Now, if he runs his mouth and his lippy and doesnt produce at over a ppg....then it could change.

But so much time between now and then.

Murphy put up 100 points his two seasons and Toronto, do you think he was loved?
- PatC80

He was booed for his play in the 96-97 season when the Leafs had the 3rd worst record in the league and he put up 39 points. If the same thing happens this year I could see Marner getting the same treatment. I doubt that’s the case though.

Like i said, some still asked during the season, but he rarely answered and willie wasnt bombarded constantly. I see the same for marner if he uses that same approach. Most will respect his ask (if he doesnt piss and moan about the media), some like douchebag Simmonds may still ask.
But this nonsense that the fans and media will be an uproar all season is just BS.
Drama queens seeking drama.
- Fakepartofme

I'm not saying if this is all true (and I still have my doubts but it's sounding more like this was in fact the full quote) and I don't think fans and media will be in an uproar all season. I also don't believe fans and media sit on their hands and wait patiently all season and don't say anything about this. They will grow increasingly louder as the season goes on and it could range from them saying the Leafs can't afford to let him walk to let him walk he's a greedy so and so.

Media is more about the business of creating drama and sharing it - real or not, at least today's media is sadly.

I agree with that. I do think that letting it drag out into the season will be a distraction for the team, not just Marner.
- PatC80

If players in Toronto pay any attention to the fanbase or media that isn’t planned on by them they are the type of player that does not belong in Toronto lol

He’s going to cost more than 11.5/12… that would only be a 600K-1.1mil raise for the first time signing as a UFA. It will be at least $2 mill.

And I don’t care whatever anyone said about Matthews, don’t defend Marner with that nonsense. I mean even if Matthews was better feeling for two games anyone who thinks it means he felt perfect is a lunatic.

And I also promise what you consider a valid move is way above what actually is. If he’s dealt it won’t happen til after July 1st tho, no team is going to take him when the leafs will need to pay $7.25 mill as a bonus making his salary nothing more than $775K. However if the leafs don’t promise to resign him he might want to go so he can sign an 8 year deal plain and simple.
- Dozzer

If he wants more than 11.5/12....which im sure he will.
He can walk.
Im perfectly fine moving on from this core....keep willie haha.

Points don’t matter too much to their new coach Berube if it isn’t brought to the game with physical play as well. That’s a truth like it or not.
- Dozzer

Points win games, Berube understands not every player can be overly physical.
There will be some ying and some yang.

Agreed and it's pathetic and soft that they do and their agent may sell it as the agent will be the bad guy and the player can claim they aren't involved but the player will still wear some of the stink of that type of thing IMO.
- Cush29

its smart if you want to get paid max. most people are clueless about that stuff..better to stay out of the way.

from a fans perspective, i get why they might think its better if the player is heavily involved..cuz the assumption is Marber would give a nice hometown discount. but hes not about that.

if he signs with the leafs, i think its starts at 13

He was booed for his play in the 96-97 season when the Leafs had the 3rd worst record in the league and he put up 39 points. If the same thing happens this year I could see Marner getting the same treatment. I doubt that’s the case though.
- Canada Cup

It's too late though.. At this point, if we have to question whether or not, Marner will be booed, it means his time here is done.

I think if you consider that he won't consider signing an extension this off-season(assuming one was to be offered), that management has to believe that a trade is the only option.

They can't let him walk for nothing, and they can't let it drag on into the season.. It will become a distraction.
- PatC80

Willie denied an extension from the leafs and the leafs listened to offers on willie, even looked for them according to reports.
But yet, willie signed.
Things change constantly...too early to suggest how it will play out imo.

I'm not saying if this is all true (and I still have my doubts but it's sounding more like this was in fact the full quote) fans and media will be in an uproar all season. I also don't believe fans and media sit on their hands and wait patiently all season and don't say anything about this. They will grow increasingly louder as the season goes on and it could range from them saying the Leafs can't afford to let him walk to let him walk he's a greedy so and so.

Media is more about the business of creating drama and sharing it - real or not, at least today's media is sadly.


- Cush29

that would be nice for a change

I agree with that. I do think that letting it drag out into the season will be a distraction for the team, not just Marner.
- PatC80

But why?
It wasnt for matthews or willie.

Oh of course there is going to be this back and forth nonsense...some of which will play out in the media. But it will just be nonsense....stuff to generate hits and clicks.

Until July 1st, im not paying attention or buying into anything that is said, it will mostly be posturing and desperately trying to generate discussion.

If the leafs get a great trade offer and he agrees to waive, move him. But i think they wait to see how it plays out under Berube and a new vision.
But we'll see
- Fakepartofme

Yup, I dont think it's a coincidence that on the same day we get two "news items" on the Marner story.

Lebrun - Ferris/Marner side. ...no extension talks yet, not willing to waive, happy to bet on himself.

EF - Leafs side ...concerns about whether Marner could handle the noise if an extension is not reached this summer.

Both news items make sense in the negotiation. Leak some info to try to gain some leverage.

I will say this .....Willie is care free and you could see he had zero concern about the media/fans ..he's always been like that ...super-chill. And then of course he went out and executed.

I'm not sure Marner has the same makeup. He looks like he cares about what people think ...that he cares about the socials ...and at times it's looked like it's impacted his play over the years.

I don't doubt he can go out and put up 50 pts in the first 30 games to change the narrative but if things don't go well ..and the noise starts to crank up ....poop gets in his head.

If he wants more than 11.5/12....which im sure he will.
He can walk.
Im perfectly fine moving on from this core....keep willie haha.
- Fakepartofme

And that’s why I think he’ll take on a trade to someone willing to pay him $13+ for 8 years.

I also don’t think he’ll be much of a fit in Berube’s game so he might want that trade this summer so he doesn’t look worse throughout the season.

that would be nice for a change
- drexel

Lol
Finally have some life in that arena

Reinhardt about to be an UFA. FLorida doing ok
- drexel

id feel much better about Marner being a UFA if the leafs made it to back to back cup finals.

but they suck and never get remotely close...so our focus is on dumb offseason poop always