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shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jun 10 @ 2:16 PM ET
If someone ever needed a fresh start.....

Don't think he'll ever become that star winger people expected in his draft year.

- Scabeh

He’s another Slackoffski.
TincupCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2010

Jun 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
So the Leafs need some depth. Why is it that everybody but Shanahan knows this!?
- Bullot



Why is everyone scooping up our so called "lack of depth" and making them useful? There depth hasn't been that bad.

Its not one issue, or a magical performance, they have run into good teams (rant directed at Mike)
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 10 @ 2:23 PM ET
Why is everyone scooping up our so called "lack of depth" and making them useful? There depth hasn't been that bad.

Its not one issue, or a magical performance, they have run into good teams (rant directed at Mike)

- TincupCanuck


they have been top heavy and have to shop the bargain bins for depth.

players also get a spotlight in Toronto, so can get a bigger payday.

maybe the cap rising will help out, but probably not enough to make a diff (rising cap lifts all contracts).


Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 2:26 PM ET
Why is everyone scooping up our so called "lack of depth" and making them useful? There depth hasn't been that bad.

Its not one issue, or a magical performance, they have run into good teams (rant directed at Mike)

- TincupCanuck

We'll have to see how the new coach does and if they get more out of the depth. Florida's 4th line on paper reads like a list of homeless people, yet they go out there and play like puck retrieving demons.
TincupCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2010

Jun 10 @ 2:29 PM ET
they have been top heavy and have to shop the bargain bins for depth.

players also get a spotlight in Toronto, so can get a bigger payday.

maybe the cap rising will help out, but probably not enough to make a diff (rising cap lifts all contracts).

- senstroll


Cant argue there. But i think they have done a decent job with bargain basement depth, including deadline additions.
TincupCanuck
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2010

Jun 10 @ 2:32 PM ET
We'll have to see how the new coach does and if they get more out of the depth. Florida's 4th line on paper reads like a list of homeless people, yet they go out there and play like puck retrieving demons.
- AdamFrench


This is my thought exactly. Every team has no names on 4th line. Boston had a bunch of scrubs. They played Maroon on the 1st PP for a while. It was a good series, didnt go our way. I dont want to overreact to that and trade a 95+ pt player for depth. If we trade him, get better on to pairing D
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 10 @ 2:36 PM ET
We'll have to see how the new coach does and if they get more out of the depth. Florida's 4th line on paper reads like a list of homeless people, yet they go out there and play like puck retrieving demons.
- AdamFrench


I'm not sure our bottom 6 forwards are much different then most teams over the years. For me, the sacrifice on "depth" really refers to defence and goaltending.

Most good teams run atleast 3 or 4 deep with good 20 minute defencemen ....the Leafs have 1.5 ...with McCabe rounding into one.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 10 @ 2:40 PM ET
He’s another Slackoffski.
- shack67


So.... awesome?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 10 @ 2:41 PM ET
He and Jack Johnson have to be the best example of guys the eye test and analytics scream out in unison as garbage that simply can't stay unemployed.
- AdamFrench


That's Stanley cup winner Jack Johnson to you!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 2:45 PM ET
That's Stanley cup winner Jack Johnson to you!
- Scabeh

George "I got merked and hate the Leafs" Parros also won a Cup. While it's nice, it doesn't make you a great player.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 10 @ 2:51 PM ET
George "I got merked and hate the Leafs" Parros also won a Cup. While it's nice, it doesn't make you a great player.
- AdamFrench


After all the poop old Jack went through, let him have this!
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 2:54 PM ET
After all the poop old Jack went through, let him have this!

- Scabeh

I have no ability to not let him have this!!!!!!!!!!

Again Jack Johnson is an elite ATHLETE. He's a decent hockey player. When teams learned the fact the guy could skate around for 30 minutes at full tilt without getting tired didn't mean he should or could, that really saved his career.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 10 @ 2:55 PM ET
I'm not sure our bottom 6 forwards are much different then most teams over the years. For me, the sacrifice on "depth" really refers to defence and goaltending.

Most good teams run atleast 3 or 4 deep with good 20 minute defencemen ....the Leafs have 1.5 ...with McCabe rounding into one.

- The Law

This. The defense is much maligned despite not looking absolutely terrible on paper in the regular season. If you go past Rielly, who do you want to give 20+ minutes per game to? McCabe maybe. Who else? Leafs don't have any other minute munchers, so Rielly gets asked to do far too much.

Look at Tampa now that McDonagh is back. Hedman, McDonagh, and Sergachev can all responsibly eat 20+ minutes per night. Cernak also.

I'd put top-pair D right up there with 1B goalie as the Leafs most pressing needs.
shack67
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NS
Joined: 07.05.2015

Jun 10 @ 2:58 PM ET
So.... awesome?

- Scabeh

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 10 @ 3:04 PM ET
We'll have to see how the new coach does and if they get more out of the depth. Florida's 4th line on paper reads like a list of homeless people, yet they go out there and play like puck retrieving demons.
- AdamFrench

I feel like you could have come up with a much better analogy for the second bit, had you only put forth a little more effort.

Shame.

Would "fighting over a ham sandwich" have been so hard?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 10 @ 3:07 PM ET
I feel like you could have come up with a much better analogy for the second bit, had you only put forth a little more effort.

Shame.

Would "fighting over a ham sandwich" have been so hard?

- Atomic Wedgie


Also the term 'hobos' would have been funnier.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 10 @ 3:16 PM ET
I feel like you could have come up with a much better analogy for the second bit, had you only put forth a little more effort.

Shame.

Would "fighting over a ham sandwich" have been so hard?

- Atomic Wedgie


It's details like this that explains why he doesn't blog anymore.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 3:17 PM ET
I feel like you could have come up with a much better analogy for the second bit, had you only put forth a little more effort.

Shame.

Would "fighting over a ham sandwich" have been so hard?

- Atomic Wedgie

I guess I could have also gone with "auditions for bumfights circa 2002"
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 10 @ 3:21 PM ET
It's details like this that explains why he doesn't blog anymore.
- Scabeh

or he got a wife that take up alot of his free time.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 10 @ 3:47 PM ET
Why is everyone scooping up our so called "lack of depth" and making them useful? There depth hasn't been that bad.

Its not one issue, or a magical performance, they have run into good teams (rant directed at Mike)

- TincupCanuck


People keep scooping up our leftovers because we can’t afford to resign them. With 4 of the top 10 players in the league, according to your support the core, should we not be kicking ass on those good teams!? To me that’s the “core” of the problem! We have a core and not a team. We can’t keep hoping for other “teams” to get worse, we need to get better, and with all this money in four players, we will never be good enough to beat a balanced team. I think they’ve shown that for many years now.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
PuckPedia really hitting Twitter hard right now. “Hey, look at us. We’re still here. We got stuff. Nobody wanted to buy us.”
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 10 @ 4:40 PM ET
This. The defense is much maligned despite not looking absolutely terrible on paper in the regular season. If you go past Rielly, who do you want to give 20+ minutes per game to? McCabe maybe. Who else? Leafs don't have any other minute munchers, so Rielly gets asked to do far too much.

Look at Tampa now that McDonagh is back. Hedman, McDonagh, and Sergachev can all responsibly eat 20+ minutes per night. Cernak also.

I'd put top-pair D right up there with 1B goalie as the Leafs most pressing needs.

- GalacticStone


I'd add a Centre to that must have list. After they fill in a few depth guys they will have about 18M to spend this summer. They'll need a fwd, 2 Dmen, and a goalie. I'd guess about $3M on a tender b/c I don't think they'll nab one of the elite types so about $15M left to spend.

Do they go big fish hunting at Centre? Do we like Lindholm at 7.5-8? Or do they nab a pair of top 4 Dmen between $5-$6 and cheap out at centre on a guy like Domi?

Lindholm, Roy, and a cheap dman (~1.5M).

or maybe ...Domi, Roy and Tanev.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
I'd add a Centre to that must have list. After they fill in a few depth guys they will have about 18M to spend this summer. They'll need a fwd, 2 Dmen, and a goalie. I'd guess about $3M on a tender b/c I don't think they'll nab one of the elite types so about $15M left to spend.

Do they go big fish hunting at Centre? Do we like Lindholm at 7.5-8? Or do they nab a pair of top 4 Dmen between $5-$6 and cheap out at centre on a guy like Domi?

Lindholm, Roy, and a cheap dman (~1.5M).

or maybe ...Domi, Roy and Tanev.

- The Law

as much as I would like to see him in a Leafs jersey, Ottawa will over pay for his services.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 10 @ 4:43 PM ET
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 10 @ 5:15 PM ET
#3 whatever stud D you want - 4 to choose from / Lundestrum 3C & Helleson RHD

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