DB on Couts in March on the Snow the Goalie podcast:

""Early on, we were asking a lot of him. He was playing on the powerplay. He was facing all the top lines. He was first on the penalty kill. Sean was really beat up, too. If you remember, you go back to earlier in the season, Sean was missing some practices here and there," Briere explained. "It wasn't just to recuperate from playing 22 minutes
- Flyfly[a game], he was really banged up. I think at one point, he had five different injuries that he was dealing with, and he was still playing."

what is your take on that statement?

so where these injuries early in the year? sounds like to me. clearly they lingered.

https://www.nytimes.com/a...ource=user_shared_article

Interesting comparison between top of 2023 and 2024 draft classes.

what is your take on that statement?

so where these injuries early in the year? sounds like to me. clearly they lingered.
- hello it's me 2050

My take is they knew about the injuries... I mean, if you go by DB's words it seems like they knew. He even mentioned that he would take a practice off here and there to deal with the injuries.

My take is they knew about the injuries... I mean, if you go by DB's words it seems like they knew. He even mentioned that he would take a practice off here and there to deal with the injuries.
- Flyfly

Seems like a very poor job by the 3 stooges to allow him to go on. Now yes if the player says I am good to go you have weigh on that heavily.

However, this is a diff situation. After missing 2 years you err on the side of caution. As the GM or POH you shut him down to get healthy, take a long term approach.

Anyone else find it funny flyers never seemed to mention his or JD surgeries. What happened to transparency?

what is your take on that statement?

so where these injuries early in the year? sounds like to me. clearly they lingered.
- hello it's me 2050

Sounds to me like a player in his 30s whose slowed down as his body doesnt recover from bumps and injuries like he used to. That with a bad back and bad knee I would anticipate that will be the Couts we see more often than not.

https://nypost.com/2024/0...-wander-off-at-g7-summit/

Torts could be the wild card in it for sure, but the guy is playing for his NHL career and will need a new contract, add in his own personal ego, which we know was huge and he will be motivated. Not saying they should but they should look, if the cost is right, consider taking the chance, with an eye on moving him after this season. The team should take chances similar, elite shot, they are going nowhere, roll the dice.
- wcorvette

Forget Laine for a second... the Flyers, with their old-school culture, simply don't handle troubled/under-motivated/eccentric players all that well. At least in recent history: TDA, Daigle, Bryz, Zherdev, Brendl, Maroon, Pitkanen, etc.

This is not the kind of place a Fin with off-ice troubles and a 50-foot game will straighten themselves out.

That depends on how he comes back. If he can get back to where he was, which is possible. He would be a strong 2C on a lot of teams.
- MJL

Very very big IF...coming off missing 2 yrs plus an ineffective year last season I think that ship has sailed

If the Flyers go anywhere near Laine, they're even more incompetent than I thought.
- MJL

Flyers current capspace $803,572. Will make any stupid deals hard. 🥳

I agree. I think some people think he’s terrible because he’s not flashy. Interesting how when his play dropped off because of injury the team really struggled isn’t it? He’s def a top 6 centre when healthy.
- Hextall271

Hasnt been healthy for 3 seasons now.

Seems like a very poor job by the 3 stooges to allow him to go on. Now yes if the player says I am good to go you have weigh on that heavily.

However, this is a diff situation. After missing 2 years you err on the side of caution. As the GM or POH you shut him down to get healthy, take a long term approach.

Anyone else find it funny flyers never seemed to mention his or JD surgeries. What happened to transparency?
- hello it's me 2050[/quote]

I have thought about this too. On point for the Flyers no doubt.

Forget Laine for a second... the Flyers, with their old-school culture, simply don't handle troubled/under-motivated/eccentric players all that well. At least in recent history: TDA, Daigle, Bryz, Zherdev, Brendl, Maroon, Pitkanen, etc.

This is not the kind of place a Fin with off-ice troubles and a 50-foot game will straighten themselves out.
- Tomahawk

all valid points, but this is 2 years, where if he fails, good for us, he helps the tank but if he doesn't, he is flipped for assets in a year. You can make a case, after rehab, needing his career, this could be the most well adjusted Laine there will be. You can't hit the homerun if you always bunt. Either way I didn't say do it, I said look into it, I mean if they took RR's 3 years are you crying?

This is but another surgery for him, minor but another. How many more can the body take before it says just stop playing.

Torts could be the wild card in it for sure, but the guy is playing for his NHL career and will need a new contract, add in his own personal ego, which we know was huge and he will be motivated. Not saying they should but they should look, if the cost is right, consider taking the chance, with an eye on moving him after this season. The team should take chances similar, elite shot, they are going nowhere, roll the dice.
- wcorvette

If the cost is right there will be legitimate contending teams interested he would be able to choose from.

This is but another surgery for him, minor but another. How many more can the body take before it says just stop playing.
- WhiskeyMan

Till his contract expires

Flyers current capspace $803,572. Will make any stupid deals hard. 🥳
- THE EVIL WITHIN

It blows my mind how the roster is this bad with that much tied up on cap space. The Flyers will simply never learn.

If the Flyers go anywhere near Laine, they're even more incompetent than I thought.
- MJL

Just a thought here because kind of goes with previous things you said. So what if you can take Laine and get something for taking him and not give much up.

The Flyers are not going anywhere. He comes in, is motivated and can score a ton of goals. Looks good. Now you can flip him at the TDL or next offseason at say maybe half the cap hit?


Wouldn't that be the thing for the FLyers to look at? Get something for taking him, put him in position to produce, and then flip him for more pieces when maybe he has value?

[quote=hello it's me 2050]Seems like a very poor job by the 3 stooges to allow him to go on. Now yes if the player says I am good to go you have weigh on that heavily.

However, this is a diff situation. After missing 2 years you err on the side of caution. As the GM or POH you shut him down to get healthy, take a long term approach.

Anyone else find it funny flyers never seemed to mention his or JD surgeries. What happened to transparency?
- Flyfly[/quote]

I have thought about this too. On point for the Flyers no doubt.

The same old yet new era of orange.

You can't hit the homerun if you always bunt.
- wcorvette

This would be more like swinging the bat at your own Richard and then being surprised when it hurts.

It will be really interesting to see where Laine ends up. I don’t think that contract is going to have many interested parties. Cbj will likely have to take back one or two bad deals themselves.

I have no clue what the Pens cap situation looks like but I wouldnt be shocked at all if they give him a shot. They always have that rotating door 3rd guy behind Crosby and Frankenstein’s Monster. Might be Patrick’s turn.

This would be more like swinging the bat at your own Richard and then being surprised when it hurts.
- Tomahawk

2 years prevents it from being a disaster, unless a gross overpay upfront. Hate the player, but don’t exaggerate the potential damage.

Just a thought here because kind of goes with previous things you said. So what if you can take Laine and get something for taking him and not give much up.

The Flyers are not going anywhere. He comes in, is motivated and can score a ton of goals. Looks good. Now you can flip him at the TDL or next offseason at say maybe half the cap hit?


Wouldn't that be the thing for the FLyers to look at? Get something for taking him, put him in position to produce, and then flip him for more pieces when maybe he has value?
- J35Bacher

It would be an aggressive play for sure….he only has two years left on deal….so beyond that you are not committed to the guy if he flames out.

The same old yet new era of orange.
- mikeyo27

LOL, this should be the slogan for next season!

Seems like a very poor job by the 3 stooges to allow him to go on. Now yes if the player says I am good to go you have weigh on that heavily.

However, this is a diff situation. After missing 2 years you err on the side of caution. As the GM or POH you shut him down to get healthy, take a long term approach.

Anyone else find it funny flyers never seemed to mention his or JD surgeries. What happened to transparency?
- hello it's me 2050

They also knew JD wasn't at full health but played him 19 min a night because .. playoffs. There really is no plan regarding the long term health of their players in what Jones calls a "rebuilding " year.

It will be interesting to see how many of these players are healthy at the beginning of next season.

It will be really interesting to see where Laine ends up. I don’t think that contract is going to have many interested parties. Cbj will likely have to take back one or two bad deals themselves.

I have no clue what the Pens cap situation looks like but I wouldnt be shocked at all if they give him a shot. They always have that rotating door 3rd guy behind Crosby and Frankenstein’s Monster. Might be Patrick’s turn.
- hereticpride

Why the (frank) not haha

I don’t think the pens have much of value they can really give back, but in the unlikely event it was a pure dump, why not? Low level of likelihood of success, but where the pens are they need to basically be swinging out of their shoes and get lucky to connect anyway