Torts would never allow his boy Cam to go down to the AHL.

I'm fine with a buyout. The Flyers already have Hayes on the cap for 25-26 so what's the matter with another chunk of dead cap for a team going nowhere.

DEAD CAP​
RETAINED SALARY (1) 2024-25 2025-26
Hayes, Kevin -- $3,571,428 $3,571,428

https://www.capfriendly.c...t-calculator/cam-atkinson

CAP HIT
2024-25 - $2,358,334
2025-26 - $1,758,334
- Feanor

Because they don't need to. The can either move him and retain or send him to Lehigh and take the little savings from that. There is zero need to prolong any cap hit and just have the contract finish this year.

Because they don't need to. The can either move him and retain or send him to Lehigh and take the little savings from that. There is zero need to prolong any cap hit and just have the contract finish this year.
- J35Bacher

100% agree but we are talking about the Flyers here.

Anyone going to the draft party at the old turf club next weekend?

Despite any online jibber jabber i'd be super stoked to meet any of you rascals, buy ya a beer, and discuss what a rebuild should look like.

Because they don't need to. The can either move him and retain or send him to Lehigh and take the little savings from that. There is zero need to prolong any cap hit and just have the contract finish this year.
- J35Bacher

Jonesy and Torts aren't going to hurt the feelings of a distinguished vet like Cam Atkinson by sending him to the AHL.

Because they don't need to. The can either move him and retain or send him to Lehigh and take the little savings from that. There is zero need to prolong any cap hit and just have the contract finish this year.
- J35Bacher

the issue is, especially at the beginning of the season (where it makes the most sense to trade him) I don't see many teams actually taking a roster spot up with Cam...even with the max retained. there is absolutely no way they waive him and send him to LV so it is probably a buy out.

another move from an older vet to make space....

Jonesy and Torts aren't going to hurt the feelings of a distinguished vet like Cam Atkinson by sending him to the AHL.
- Feanor

This move isn't in a vacuum. It sucks they are in this position but think about the nuance needed. I realize YOU DON'T CARE, and it IS THE RIGHT CALL...but stupid poop like this matters in hockey more than any other major sport. Bullpoop like the Yandle Scandal reverberates around the league. First with hockey guy media types then trickles down into the actual player pool.

I don't disagree with benching Yandle because he sucked
Cam Atkinson now sucks

As a guy who has no skin in the game i'd NHL 25 the whole team and restart (can you still do that? I last owned NHL '98) but that's not how this works. The Cam thing is a THING. The whole league is watching. It's not super dramatic as all that but honestly, you can't (frank) this guy over

This move isn't in a vacuum. It sucks they are in this position but think about the nuance needed. I realize YOU DON'T CARE, and it IS THE RIGHT CALL...but stupid poop like this matters in hockey more than any other major sport. Bullpoop like the Yandle Scandal reverberates around the league. First with hockey guy media types then trickles down into the actual player pool.

I don't disagree with benching Yandle because he sucked
Cam Atkinson now sucks

As a guy who has no skin in the game i'd NHL 25 the whole team and restart (can you still do that? I last owned NHL '98) but that's not how this works. The Cam thing is a THING. The whole league is watching. It's not super dramatic as all that but honestly, you can't (frank) this guy over
- Wingdestroyer

Keith Yandle. Cam Atkinson. For those who want to tank, they are the way….and yet everyone complains when they play…

They weren't trying to tank when they signed KY. They thought he would be a good addition.

They weren't trying to tank when they signed KY. They thought he would be a good addition.
- Feanor

a very sad move that made me very sad.....

but still, so many people cared when they benched him!!! obviously none of them watched one Flyers game....but still.

I honestly hate this sport so much.

Keith Yandle. Cam Atkinson. For those who want to tank, they are the way….and yet everyone complains when they play…
- roenick97

They weren't tanking at that point - they were actually trying to win lol

Keith Yandle. Cam Atkinson. For those who want to tank, they are the way….and yet everyone complains when they play…
- roenick97

I mean I could see why Atkinson could be attractive to San Jose. Solid vet on last year of deal. Great guy. The signed Will Smith. Will be getting Celebrini. Will have some youth so get a guy who has been a solid player for most of his career.

Kind of like how Chicago brought in guys like Hall and Foligno.

why do you think this?
- jd250

Fletcher stated a month or so before he was fired that part of his rebuild plan was to grab some reclamation projects…it’s not a bad idea, but it should never be part of the rebuilding plan….if you see something in a guy, that maybe others don’t then sure why not?

This move isn't in a vacuum. It sucks they are in this position but think about the nuance needed. I realize YOU DON'T CARE, and it IS THE RIGHT CALL...but stupid poop like this matters in hockey more than any other major sport. Bullpoop like the Yandle Scandal reverberates around the league. First with hockey guy media types then trickles down into the actual player pool.

I don't disagree with benching Yandle because he sucked
Cam Atkinson now sucks

As a guy who has no skin in the game i'd NHL 25 the whole team and restart (can you still do that? I last owned NHL '98) but that's not how this works. The Cam thing is a THING. The whole league is watching. It's not super dramatic as all that but honestly, you can't (frank) this guy over
- Wingdestroyer

Can you tell me what future consequences the NY Rangers suffered when they signed Wade Redden to a large UFA contract and then later, demoted him to the AHL? Honestly, it's not a thing and there will be zero future issues from waiving and demoting Atkinson. Nor would it be screwing him over. He either plays well enough or faces the consequences.

the issue is, especially at the beginning of the season (where it makes the most sense to trade him) I don't see many teams actually taking a roster spot up with Cam...even with the max retained. there is absolutely no way they waive him and send him to LV so it is probably a buy out.

another move from an older vet to make space....


- Wingdestroyer

Probably but it's a mistake.

Should the Flyers target Arthur Kaliyev from LA? High pick in 2019, might just need a change of scenary like Walker did.
- jd250

No, he'd be just another Kieffer Bellows.

Guy literally brings nothing if he's not scoring.

Why is there absolutely no way to waive him and demoted him?
- MJL

They aren’t gonna screw him over. Others teams have done that to other players so no need to continue to put effort good pal

Ginning is waiver exempt till the start of the 25/26 season, or until he plays another 60 NHL games. Attard is no longer waiver exempt.

Kevin Kurtz reports the Flyers are in talks to re-sign Erik Johnson.
- Feanor

Off course they are

They aren’t gonna screw him over. Others teams have done that to other players so no need to continue to put effort good pal
- Wingdestroyer

It wouldn't be screwing him over. They may choose not to do it but if they did. There would be no future repercussions from it.

Off course they are
- corduroy

2 year deal would be great

2 year deal would be great
- hello it's me 2050

With a NMC clause as well

Can you tell me what future consequences the NY Rangers suffered when they signed Wade Redden to a large UFA contract and then later, demoted him to the AHL? Honestly, it's not a thing and there will be zero future issues from waiving and demoting Atkinson. Nor would it be screwing him over. He either plays well enough or faces the consequences.
- MJL

I agree with you. The only roadblock is Torts. I do not think he will allow his boy Atkinson to be sent to the minors.

2 year deal would be great
- hello it's me 2050

That’s kind of a slight when Nic got 4 years.

That’s kind of a slight when Nic got 4 years.
- Minnyhock

Well when chuckles signed nd the Flyers were not the gold standard of the NHL like they are now under current leadership

It wouldn't be screwing him over. They may choose not to do it but if they did. There would be no future repercussions from it.
- MJL

I don't see it that way. I realize you pointed out a previous scenario but I dont know enough about it. Was that player as recognized in the league as the type of leader/good dude/etc as Cam Atkson? Did the Rangers also just come off a bout with another (albeit crappy AF) player that they "screwed over" in Yandle?

Again, I'm not saying this is some chicken little type of scenario but it comes into play. The Flyers are setting themselves up to be a place where players want to not only come, but to BE. Im sure you are in some sort of position (cool guy at work that everyone loves but has some issues getting his tps reports in on time, guy at softball league that can't hit for poop but always brings the beers/whatever) where you have to make decisions that are nuanced. This ONE PARTICULAR decision is nuanced for the Flyers. They have already botched many but this one I think they have concerns.

I don't see it that way. I realize you pointed out a previous scenario but I dont know enough about it. Was that player as recognized in the league as the type of leader/good dude/etc as Cam Atkson? Did the Rangers also just come off a bout with another (albeit crappy AF) player that they "screwed over" in Yandle?


- Wingdestroyer

You're over dramatizing it and drastically overstating Atkinson's standing in the league. He is just another player. The Flyers didn't screw Yandle over. In fact they kept playing him long after he deserved to remain in the lineup. He was awful and they still kept playing him to get the record.

Again, I'm not saying this is some chicken little type of scenario but it comes into play. The Flyers are setting themselves up to be a place where players want to not only come, but to BE. Im sure you are in some sort of position (cool guy at work that everyone loves but has some issues getting his tps reports in on time, guy at softball league that can't hit for poop but always brings the beers/whatever) where you have to make decisions that are nuanced. This ONE PARTICULAR decision is nuanced for the Flyers. They have already botched many but this one I think they have concerns.
- Wingdestroyer

No it's not. Again, over selling it. It would mean nothing. Just another vet whose game went south and demoted to the AHL. Nothing more, nothing less. All they owe Atkinson is his paycheck. I'll refrain from making comments about you.