No, he'd be just another Kieffer Bellows.

Guy literally brings nothing if he's not scoring.
- Tomahawk

So you are saying he does not have the goods?

I'll refrain from making comments about you.
- MJL

This is def not the place for that. In even the most jokingly form (I’m a joking guy!) I should refrain from that as well.

Honestly man, Your combative form of online debate is not easy to digest and kinda disarming at times. We can disagree and still be Flyers pals…and we disagree

Yandle had the worst ES goals against results of any regular defender in the league despite being sheltered as much as possible. And he was on the ice for seven shorthanded goals allowed. It's impossible to overstate how bad he was.

You're over dramatizing it and drastically overstating Atkinson's standing in the league. He is just another player. The Flyers didn't screw Yandle over. In fact they kept playing him long after he deserved to remain in the lineup. He was awful and they still kept playing him to get the record.



No it's not. Again, over selling it. It would mean nothing. Just another vet whose game went south and demoted to the AHL. Nothing more, nothing less. All they owe Atkinson is his paycheck. I'll refrain from making comments about you.
- MJL

This is all correct. If Atkinson wants his pick of where he wants to go he can easily ask them to mutually terminate. The Flyers don't owe Atkinson anything other then a paycheck. He can still earn that money in Lehigh and continue to play hockey. Him and Nick Deslauriers can be mentors down there.

Making a business/team decision does not mean the Flyers are doing anything wrong or being disrespectful. They need to do what's right for the Flyers.

Yandle had the worst ES goals against results of any regular defender in the league despite being sheltered as much as possible. And he was on the ice for seven shorthanded goals allowed. It's impossible to overstate how bad he was.
- Feanor

I don’t know what was worse.

The Flyers allowing him to set the record.

Or the hissy fit he and Hayes had when they finally benched him when he was clearly shot.

I don’t know what was worse.

The Flyers allowing him to set the record.

Or the hissy fit he and Hayes had when they finally benched him when he was clearly shot.
- hereticpride

I think it is more embarrassing to the player to continue to throw him out there knowing he just doesn't have it anymore.

I don't see it that way. I realize you pointed out a previous scenario but I dont know enough about it. Was that player as recognized in the league as the type of leader/good dude/etc as Cam Atkson? Did the Rangers also just come off a bout with another (albeit crappy AF) player that they "screwed over" in Yandle?

Again, I'm not saying this is some chicken little type of scenario but it comes into play. The Flyers are setting themselves up to be a place where players want to not only come, but to BE. Im sure you are in some sort of position (cool guy at work that everyone loves but has some issues getting his tps reports in on time, guy at softball league that can't hit for poop but always brings the beers/whatever) where you have to make decisions that are nuanced. This ONE PARTICULAR decision is nuanced for the Flyers. They have already botched many but this one I think they have concerns.
- Wingdestroyer

How are the Flyers setting themselves up to be a place players want to come and be?

Waiving Cam and him playing in the minors will have zero effect on any future players wanting to come to the Flyers. None.

I mentioned this before but Utah should really be looking to be adding players via trade. They have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds next year.

Give me Geekie. Give me some of those picks. Take pretty much anyone you want not named Michkov.

It must be summer if we are discussing Cam Atkinson's feelings. I wish him all the best but there should be no special treatment. The guys appears to be cooked and if he want to play somewhere else that is great - the Flyers owe him nothing at this point. There will be no ramifications if they held onto Cam and sent him the A.

How are the Flyers setting themselves up to be a place players want to come and be?

Waiving Cam and him playing in the minors will have zero effect on any future players wanting to come to the Flyers. None.
- furio16

Agree!

This move isn't in a vacuum. It sucks they are in this position but think about the nuance needed. I realize YOU DON'T CARE, and it IS THE RIGHT CALL...but stupid poop like this matters in hockey more than any other major sport. Bullpoop like the Yandle Scandal reverberates around the league. First with hockey guy media types then trickles down into the actual player pool.

I don't disagree with benching Yandle because he sucked
Cam Atkinson now sucks

As a guy who has no skin in the game i'd NHL 25 the whole team and restart (can you still do that? I last owned NHL '98) but that's not how this works. The Cam thing is a THING. The whole league is watching. It's not super dramatic as all that but honestly, you can't (frank) this guy over
- Wingdestroyer

Well said. I realize this isn’t what folks want but they are still dealing with humans and will do right by the player while nerds at home whine. If Cam was a big proponent of Torts and did all the things like try to convince younger guys to buy in etc. then that’s not lost on the team.

Well said. I realize this isn’t what folks want but they are still dealing with humans and will do right by the player while nerds at home whine. If Cam was a big proponent of Torts and did all the things like try to convince younger guys to buy in etc. then that’s not lost on the team.
- anti-lame

Maybe they can bake a cake for him as well.

I get the fact they want to do right by him but if they can't make it work the Flyers need to do what is right for the Org. People acting like any UFA will never sign here b/c the "big bad Flyers played hardball w Cam" is grossly overstated. Acting like this is some seismic event around the league is laughable.

I mentioned this before but Utah should really be looking to be adding players via trade. They have 7 picks in the first 3 rounds next year.

Give me Geekie. Give me some of those picks. Take pretty much anyone you want not named Michkov.
- hereticpride

Why would they give up Geekie? Young good player.

Well said. I realize this isn’t what folks want but they are still dealing with humans and will do right by the player while nerds at home whine. If Cam was a big proponent of Torts and did all the things like try to convince younger guys to buy in etc. then that’s not lost on the team.
- anti-lame

Are they still paying him?

Are they loaning him to the KHL?

They only owe him a paycheck. He isn't even a homegrown guy where "maybe" there could be sentiment involved in a move like this.

What about players that are out playing Atkinson. Does the team not owe it to them?

If he doesn't want to go to Lehigh then he can ask for the contract to be mutually terminated and he can look for another place. A buyout would be foolish.

This move isn't in a vacuum. It sucks they are in this position but think about the nuance needed. I realize YOU DON'T CARE, and it IS THE RIGHT CALL...but stupid poop like this matters in hockey more than any other major sport. Bullpoop like the Yandle Scandal reverberates around the league. First with hockey guy media types then trickles down into the actual player pool.

I don't disagree with benching Yandle because he sucked
Cam Atkinson now sucks

As a guy who has no skin in the game i'd NHL 25 the whole team and restart (can you still do that? I last owned NHL '98) but that's not how this works. The Cam thing is a THING. The whole league is watching. It's not super dramatic as all that but honestly, you can't (frank) this guy over
- Wingdestroyer

The whole league is watching. That is by far the funniest thing on these boards in years.

Cam is a nobody. Players won’t bat one eyelash if he is waived.

Well said. I realize this isn’t what folks want but they are still dealing with humans and will do right by the player while nerds at home whine. If Cam was a big proponent of Torts and did all the things like try to convince younger guys to buy in etc. then that’s not lost on the team.
- anti-lame

Should the Flyers do what is best for the Flyers or what is best for the player?

The whole league is watching. That is by far the funniest thing on these boards in years.

Cam is a nobody. Players won’t bat one eyelash if he is waived.
- furio16

A few players may even take to twitter to complain! Oh no! The Flyers brand!!! 😱

A few players may even take to twitter to complain! Oh no! The Flyers brand!!! 😱
- StepfordSam

Waiving Cam he still gets paid and opens up a spot for for someone else. Wouldn’t the players like that?

Why would they give up Geekie? Young good player.
- furio16

They have some center depth already and not a whole lot on the wings or defense. I wouldn’t blame them at all if they decide to keep him.

Depending who ends up on the board at 12 I’d offer that pick for him straight up or someone like Farabee.

This is def not the place for that. In even the most jokingly form (I’m a joking guy!) I should refrain from that as well.

Honestly man, Your combative form of online debate is not easy to digest and kinda disarming at times. We can disagree and still be Flyers pals…and we disagree
- Wingdestroyer

My form of online debate is not combative. It's common sense based and factual based. You're trying to state that the Flyers would face some sort of blow back or retribution if they waive and demote Atkinson the AHL. That they would be violating some sort of principle or code that would cost them somehow. There is no history of that. There is tons of history of players who were once good players, having their game of south and been sent to the AHL or bought out. There is no punitive damage from that.

They have some center depth already and not a whole lot on the wings or defense. I wouldn’t blame them at all if they decide to keep him.

Depending who ends up on the board at 12 I’d offer that pick for him straight up or someone like Farabee.
- hereticpride

What center depth as legit question.

I think it is more embarrassing to the player to continue to throw him out there knowing he just doesn't have it anymore.
- J35Bacher

It was and it was a false record in my view. Part of it is also remaining a viable player and earning your spot in the lineup. The Flyers played Yandle every game for months when he had no business being in an NHL lineup. He was beyond awful and the Flyers kept playing him.

What center depth as legit question.
- furio16

Cooley and Hayton. Which is more than we have at least. Schmaltz put up 60 points last year too.

I mean I could see why Atkinson could be attractive to San Jose. Solid vet on last year of deal. Great guy. The signed Will Smith. Will be getting Celebrini. Will have some youth so get a guy who has been a solid player for most of his career.

Kind of like how Chicago brought in guys like Hall and Foligno.
- J35Bacher

I agree and Atkinson should know his place in the bigger picture.

I think it is more embarrassing to the player to continue to throw him out there knowing he just doesn't have it anymore.
- J35Bacher

Especially when it was quite obvious the record would be broken soon after by Kessel.