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mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jun 18 @ 5:58 PM ET
Can you tell me what future consequences the NY Rangers suffered when they signed Wade Redden to a large UFA contract and then later, demoted him to the AHL? Honestly, it's not a thing and there will be zero future issues from waiving and demoting Atkinson. Nor would it be screwing him over. He either plays well enough or faces the consequences.
- MJL

Agreed and at the end of the day the players follow the money - no ifs ands or buts. Last I checked no one is giving the Flyers discounts to play for them either...
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:18 PM ET
Cooley and Hayton. Which is more than we have at least. Schmaltz put up 60 points last year too.
- hereticpride

Hayton hasn’t done much so far. Not sure how much depth he provides. They seem to be short on centers.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jun 18 @ 6:30 PM ET
Goodrow placed on waivers by the Rangers. Oh no, no one is going to want to play there!
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
Goodrow placed on waivers by the Rangers. Oh no, no one is going to want to play there!
- mr4tno



😂😂😂
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 18 @ 6:37 PM ET
Goodrow placed on waivers by the Rangers. Oh no, no one is going to want to play there!
- mr4tno


Somebody will overpay him again after they buy him out.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:38 PM ET
Utah had ZERO defensemen under contract for next year. 3 RFA’s and of them, Durzi is the only legit defenseman. If Utah want to be competitive, they need 3 more top 4 defenders through trade or free agency and it’s not a great year for UFA free agents on the blue line. Utah is gonna be buying.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 18 @ 6:39 PM ET
Goodrow placed on waivers by the Rangers. Oh no, no one is going to want to play there!
- mr4tno


Yeah. That’s actually pretty funny!
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 18 @ 6:39 PM ET
Are they still paying him?

Are they loaning him to the KHL?

They only owe him a paycheck. He isn't even a homegrown guy where "maybe" there could be sentiment involved in a move like this.

What about players that are out playing Atkinson. Does the team not owe it to them?

If he doesn't want to go to Lehigh then he can ask for the contract to be mutually terminated and he can look for another place. A buyout would be foolish.

- J35Bacher


Perfect summation
furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 6:45 PM ET
Somebody will overpay him again after they buy him out.
- Tomahawk

Well San Jose can now claim him to be that vet; he had a modified NTC so maybe they know one of those teams on his list would claim him.

3 years at 3.6 isn’t that bad for a team like them.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 18 @ 6:45 PM ET
Anyone know what type of player Goodrow is? A glue guy that plays 200ft and has sandpaper to his game? A threat to become a Flyer?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 6:48 PM ET
Utah had ZERO defensemen under contract for next year. 3 RFA’s and of them, Durzi is the only legit defenseman. If Utah want to be competitive, they need 3 more top 4 defenders through trade or free agency and it’s not a great year for UFA free agents on the blue line. Utah is gonna be buying.
- mikeyo27
They’re going to be wheeling and dealing this summer for sure. Danny better be in on it.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 18 @ 7:32 PM ET
So LA really gonna ride out that PLD contract. Whew, what a risk. Really need the Finals to end tonight. The offseason needs to starr. I need more rumors then a Skinner buyout or Hronek extension.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jun 18 @ 7:33 PM ET
Unless Johnson only plays in emergency situations and is acting more like a coach than anything else, I don't think it makes sense to resign Johnson. Signing him and retaining Risto leaves only 1 spot for a young defenseman to make the team, and there are 4 young defenseman that I would like to see have a legitimate shot: Grans, Andrae, Ginning and Attard.
- jd250



You know that won't happen. He will be overplayed, and all we'll hear is that he is such a warrior.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 7:40 PM ET
So LA really gonna ride out that PLD contract. Whew, what a risk. Really need the Finals to end tonight. The offseason needs to starr. I need more rumors then a Skinner buyout or Hronek extension.
- Trox88

Is buying PLD out even realistic? They’d be carrying a cap hit for like 14 years, wouldn’t they? I don’t think the number would be crazy high but 14 years is an eternity in pro sports.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
So LA really gonna ride out that PLD contract. Whew, what a risk. Really need the Finals to end tonight. The offseason needs to starr. I need more rumors then a Skinner buyout or Hronek extension.
- Trox88


Hronek just signed a 8x7.5 or something like that
Wingdestroyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.27.2020

Jun 18 @ 7:43 PM ET
My form of online debate is not combative. It's common sense based and factual based. You're trying to state that the Flyers would face some sort of blow back or retribution if they waive and demote Atkinson the AHL. That they would be violating some sort of principle or code that would cost them somehow. There is no history of that. There is tons of history of players who were once good players, having their game of south and been sent to the AHL or bought out. There is no punitive damage from that.
- MJL


Three other things factually based:

This site has lost it. You’ve taken control congrats. A mod used to exist because I cursed once and I got banned. Good for you

I don’t agree with a lot of what you say. You and I both agreed Luke Schenn for JVR was a good trade (look it up) but now you are condescending to everyone that doesn’t agree

Def want to actually talk Flyers so I’m looking for other places to do so. In the meantime, Hail (frank)ing Satan
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 7:51 PM ET
Is buying PLD out even realistic? They’d be carrying a cap hit for like 14 years, wouldn’t they? I don’t think the number would be crazy high but 14 years is an eternity in pro sports.
- hereticpride



The length stays the same but If they do it before he turns 26 (June 24Th) the buyout ratio is 1/3. If they wait until after it becomes 2/3.

So LA has a decision to make.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 18 @ 7:54 PM ET
Is buying PLD out even realistic? They’d be carrying a cap hit for like 14 years, wouldn’t they? I don’t think the number would be crazy high but 14 years is an eternity in pro sports.
- hereticpride


From what I read if they buy him out before he turns 26, he would be owed only 15.8 million in salary, but save the Kings .31.6 millioin salary. The buyout term is ugly, but it's a huge bet Blake is taking that PLD turns it around.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 18 @ 8:17 PM ET
Somebody will overpay him again after they buy him out.
- Tomahawk

I am glad flyers cap is so screwed they cant do their usual flyer thing 😆 🤣 🫣
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
Three other things factually based:

This site has lost it. You’ve taken control congrats. A mod used to exist because I cursed once and I got banned. Good for you

I don’t agree with a lot of what you say. You and I both agreed Luke Schenn for JVR was a good trade (look it up) but now you are condescending to everyone that doesn’t agree

Def want to actually talk Flyers so I’m looking for other places to do so. In the meantime, Hail (frank)ing Satan

- Wingdestroyer


You're confused between what is a fact and what is an opinion. You're also whining like a little girl.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:41 PM ET
From what I read if they buy him out before he turns 26, he would be owed only 15.8 million in salary, but save the Kings .31.6 millioin salary. The buyout term is ugly, but it's a huge bet Blake is taking that PLD turns it around.
- Trox88




https://www.capfriendly.c...culator/pierre-luc-dubois
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:42 PM ET
You're confused between what is a fact and what is an opinion. You're also whining like a little girl.
- MJL


Seems needlessly insulting to little girls
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:44 PM ET
The length stays the same but If they do it before he turns 26 (June 24Th) the buyout ratio is 1/3. If they wait until after it becomes 2/3.

So LA has a decision to make.

- MBFlyerfan


I honestly think they are stupid to buy him out. That June 24th date might screw them if the Stanley cup goes 7 games…. I’d keep him and give him a chance to get it figured out….rumour was he was headed to Boston as part of the Ulmark trade at the deadline, before Ulmark refused to waive his no trade. My point is I think he’s tradable and wonder if all this talk is to generate interest from others.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 8:46 PM ET
Seems needlessly insulting to little girls
- Dkos


Apology to little girls.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
Three other things factually based:

This site has lost it. You’ve taken control congrats. A mod used to exist because I cursed once and I got banned. Good for you

I don’t agree with a lot of what you say. You and I both agreed Luke Schenn for JVR was a good trade (look it up) but now you are condescending to everyone that doesn’t agree

Def want to actually talk Flyers so I’m looking for other places to do so. In the meantime, Hail (frank)ing Satan

- Wingdestroyer



I believe his son is in this years draft if you wanna pick him up.

Edit -


Yup. Miroslav Satan Jr. is available for pick up
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