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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 9:03 PM ET
The length stays the same but If they do it before he turns 26 (June 24Th) the buyout ratio is 1/3. If they wait until after it becomes 2/3.

So LA has a decision to make.

- MBFlyerfan

Gotcha. That’s wild that age plays a factor in it but I guess makes sense with older players. That is a huge difference between 1/3 and 2/3 of that contract tho.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:07 PM ET
RIP the great Willie Mays.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:09 PM ET
Man, Satan Jr. is tall. 6’7, but only 190.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:10 PM ET
RIP the great Willie Mays.
- MJL

Oof. That’s a big one for American Sports. Shame. But say hey, he’ll always go down a legend.

He had to be in his 90s. That’s a good run. We should all be so lucky.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:16 PM ET
Oof. That’s a big one for American Sports. Shame. But say hey, he’ll always go down a legend.

He had to be in his 90s. That’s a good run. We should all be so lucky.

- Hesh_


93. One of the all time greats.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 18 @ 9:19 PM ET
https://x.com/scottcwheel...PvGM4d6vUQQxRCpFvEjA&s=19

My dream of Demidov being drafted by the Flyers appears to be over. Fun while it lasted. Still hoping for Buium, Catton, Helenius, or Eiserman will be a Flyer.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 9:20 PM ET
Florida lost their Mojo. Time for one of their big guns to step up.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:30 PM ET
https://x.com/scottcwheeler/status/1803230955999531109?t=XiPvGM4d6vUQQxRCpFvEjA&s=19

My dream of Demidov being drafted by the Flyers appears to be over. Fun while it lasted. Still hoping for Buium, Catton, Helenius, or Eiserman will be a Flyer.

- Trox88


Not Eiserman…..but the others are legit.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:30 PM ET
Florida lost their Mojo. Time for one of their big guns to step up.
- bird_dog_pa


There ya go.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
McDavid is a friggin cheat code
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 18 @ 9:43 PM ET
Not Eiserman…..but the others are legit.
- landros 2


I understand the Eiserman shortcomings, I just cannot ignore that type of goal scorer. I do like Parekh. I'm not buying Briere won't take another mobile RHD because they already have Drysdale and Bonk.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 18 @ 9:47 PM ET
Ladies weaken the legs.
- mickel25


Remember the show Sports Science? They actually did an episode that tested an athletes performance when abstaining and after spending the night with his girlfriend and the results were better after the night with his girlfriend then when abstaining. They weren’t significant improvements but it showed ladies don’t weaken the legs, haha.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 18 @ 9:58 PM ET
I doubt they buyout both. Petersen can be in a tandem with Kosolov in LV.

If they trade for a young center like Rossi, Perfetti, or Pinto, then creating cap space can make sense. They need to start filling the center cupboard with below 25 choices

- Trox88


This to me is the only reason a buyout is acceptable. A buyout to fit EJ is stupid.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
I can't believe I'm typing this but I'd rather have Ristolainen instead of Johnson.

Don't get it twisted I'm with ya. I'd love to trade Ristolainen but that's a tall task.

- Pelle31Forever


I think if Risto starts the year playing like he did before his injury this year then he might be moveable with small retention. Risto at $5m ain’t great but at $4m there will be interested teams.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:02 PM ET
I understand the Eiserman shortcomings, I just cannot ignore that type of goal scorer. I do like Parekh. I'm not buying Briere won't take another mobile RHD because they already have Drysdale and Bonk.
- Trox88




I wonder if Eiserman will be so successful against NHL players. Will he still be able to get to open areas and actually get his shot off? He may be, but Im just not sure how good he will be when he isn't playing against other Jr. players.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
I understand the Eiserman shortcomings, I just cannot ignore that type of goal scorer. I do like Parekh. I'm not buying Briere won't take another mobile RHD because they already have Drysdale and Bonk.
- Trox88


I just think there are 12 players that are better options…. The Flyers need to take the BPA…..they need to also explore moving into the 5-6-7 over all. Apparently they are all available…hopefully DB does everything he can to make it happen.
I might have been hyperbole by comparing Eiserman to Bellows the other day…but that’s the comparison I see….a one dimensional player who’s game may not translate into the NHL….he’s the “one” guy that I hope the Flyers pass on.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
This to me is the only reason a buyout is acceptable. A buyout to fit EJ is stupid.
- Schmojo


I don’t think they need to do a buyout. I’m glad DB appears to be looking at trade options for Atkinson. While I agree they need to try to help a vet like Atkinson it cant be at the teams peril. They have enough guys going on LTIR, to really not need cap space for the upcoming year.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
McDavid is a friggin cheat code
- MBFlyerfan


If his career continues like this and is able to capture a couple cups...the discussion of who is better Gretzky or McDavid has to be had.

No question he's the biggest unicorn since Lemuiex.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
Where do we get a Tkachuk?
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 18 @ 10:24 PM ET
I wonder if Eiserman will be so successful against NHL players. Will he still be able to get to open areas and actually get his shot off? He may be, but Im just not sure how good he will be when he isn't playing against other Jr. players.
- MBFlyerfan


I think the Bellows comparison is a bit unfair. Eiserman is a better skater then Bellows. Eiserman to begin the year was rated #2 behind Celebrini. Not sure Bellows comparison should carry that much weight when he was a better goal scorer then Caufield and Conner.

I would be slightly disappointed if Eiserman gets bypassed for Yakemchuk or D#ckinson. Eiserman has the higher ceiling. A good debate though.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
Where do we get a Tkachuk?
- Dkos


We have Gritty, he is awesome at diving.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:31 PM ET
I think the Bellows comparison is a bit unfair. Eiserman is a better skater then Bellows. Eiserman to begin the year was rated #2 behind Celebrini. Not sure Bellows comparison should carry that much weight when he was a better goal scorer then Caufield and Conner.

I would be slightly disappointed if Eiserman gets bypassed for Yakemchuk or D#ckinson. Eiserman has the higher ceiling. A good debate though.

- Trox88


I would be pissed if the Flyers passed on D#ckinson, even if they selected Eiserman.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
I would be pissed if the Flyers passed on D#ckinson, even if they selected Eiserman.
- Glak18


That's what is fun about draft discussion, everyone has an opinion, where you may end up like a genius or look like a fool. After the Patrick draft, I tend not to thoroughly believe my expertise. 😀 I truly believe Parekh is the most likely Dman to drop. Could it be to #12? Not sure.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
This move isn't in a vacuum. It sucks they are in this position but think about the nuance needed. I realize YOU DON'T CARE, and it IS THE RIGHT CALL...but stupid poop like this matters in hockey more than any other major sport. Bullpoop like the Yandle Scandal reverberates around the league. First with hockey guy media types then trickles down into the actual player pool.

I don't disagree with benching Yandle because he sucked
Cam Atkinson now sucks

As a guy who has no skin in the game i'd NHL 25 the whole team and restart (can you still do that? I last owned NHL '98) but that's not how this works. The Cam thing is a THING. The whole league is watching. It's not super dramatic as all that but honestly, you can't (frank) this guy over

- Wingdestroyer


I get it but at the same time Vegas hasn’t had a problem with any of this. Players will go to places with a lot of talent in order to win or will chase the money.

Flyers should allow Cam and his agent to find a trade that doesn’t involve the Flyers giving up any assets. Otherwise, he plays in the bottom 6. If they end up trading any of TK, Laughton, or Farabee for picks he’ll easily have a lineup spot.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:44 PM ET
That's what is fun about draft discussion, everyone has opinion. I truly believe Parekh is the most likely Dman to drop. Could it be to #12? Not sure.
- Trox88


Parekh is no question the most offensively gifted defenseman, in previous years I believe he would fall, but teams that are successful today tend to have that offensive juggernaut rover.

Every team has it's own perception of players which makes it impossible to do mocks, but I make my own ranking that the highest player available has to be the pick (which I'm positive every team does).

I have D*ckinson above Eiserman. Now is Eiserman in my top 12, I do, and I would be very ok with the selection depending who is else is available. I definitely believe there's going to be at least 1 "Coyote/Detroit" pick where they select someone outside the popular rankings.
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