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wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:56 PM ET
Got to love the politics of the draft, especially about Demidov....

https://www.reddit.com/r/...round_the_league_is_that/
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 19 @ 6:57 PM ET
I know Twitter is loving the Devils trade for Markstrom, is it really a good idea to trade for a goalie who's going to be 35 next season and your defense is a bunch of young pups?
- BetweenTheDots



Better than a rookie in front of a young D like they had last year. How did Soderblom look in front of a young defense vs. Mrazek last year for the Hawks?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:58 PM ET
They now have Kemper and Rittich as the top 2, and Eric Portillo learning his craft in Ontario. It was just a few years back that Kuemper was a top 10 goalie in the league. But he won’t be worse than Talbot.
- LAHawk


So they just got Talbot off the books, got Peterson off the books and they trade for a guy who's making over $5 mil who looks like he's in serious decline? It's as if he can't help making the same mistake over and over again.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:59 PM ET
Better than a rookie in front of a young D like they had last year. How did Soderblom look in front of a young defense vs. Mrazek last year for the Hawks?
- LAHawk


Soda is still young and he might not be good enough but it is nice to have a vet back there who hopefully can stay healthy again this year

I am curious to see how the Devils do this year, with a young blue line and his age i wonder if his save percentage will be right around 900.
wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:07 PM ET
So they just got Talbot off the books, got Peterson off the books and they trade for a guy who's making over $5 mil who looks like he's in serious decline? It's as if he can't help making the same mistake over and over again.
- BetweenTheDots


Talbot looked a lot better than Kuemper this year. Talbot looked great there for a long stretch this season.

Even made it to the all star game
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 19 @ 7:11 PM ET
Talbot looked a lot better than Kuemper this year. Talbot looked great there for a long stretch this season.

Even made it to the all star game

- wizardofi


I guess eating 15 mil is better than eating 60 mil

They'll probably sign Talbot and buy out Kuemper, nevermind no real benefit to buying him out
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 19 @ 7:23 PM ET
Talbot looked a lot better than Kuemper this year. Talbot looked great there for a long stretch this season.

Even made it to the all star game

- wizardofi


The problem was after the all star game.
Never could come up with the timely save.
wizardofi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 04.17.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:29 PM ET
The problem was after the all star game.
Never could come up with the timely save.

- LAHawk


Ya, Talbot was hot at the start of the year. I wonder what happened to him
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 7:43 PM ET
Ya, Talbot was hot at the start of the year. I wonder what happened to him
- wizardofi

Reality
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
Very few players ever drafted didn't have doubt or risk. That's inherent when projecting 17/18 yr olds. ... That said you can still minimize risk, Not sure your point about size and handedness when it comes to doing that.
- Mr Ricochet


I guess it depends on if it is actual risk or just perceived. I’m sure teams already know what the situation is with players coming from Russia. I’d be really interested to see how many Russians that wanted to come over couldn’t compared to the number of college draftees who never played for their drafting team. I’d bet those numbers (while both extremely low) are extremely close.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:06 PM ET
Been rumored rangers and Hawks have had talks about Brandon Schneider. On to different thing involving both of these teams if the Rangers offered their 1st this year ottoman to take truboa contract off their hands would the Hawks make that deal?
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:22 PM ET
Which one will it be?


- boilermaker100


Demidov, 100%. The risk of him not coming over to North America is minimal, if not 0%. Demidov has the potential to be a game breaker and will relieve some of the offensive pressure from Bedard.

There should be some decent options for defense at 18 and 34 too. Although I wouldn’t be opposed to drafting another forward at 18 if the likes of Eiserman, Hage or Brandsegg-Nygard are still on the board. Personally, I’d love to see the Hawks get Hage at 18.

Demidov, Hage, Emery and Roberts would be great picks in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 19 @ 9:23 PM ET
Yeah… I wouldn’t use the word “tidy” to describe how LA handled their PLD adventure. They disregarded his history, committed considerable resources to acquire him, he didn’t perform anywhere near expectations (again), decided one year was all they needed to see to move on from him, and by the grace of God found another organization stupid enough to yet again roll the dice on him.

I get what you’re saying about kudos to them for admitting the mistake and acting accordingly - but really - it’s a mistake they should have never made in the first place. The problems with PLD was/is no mystery. Blake crapped the bed on this one.

- Chief4Feathers

The other other side of this deal - no Backstrom or Kuznetsov in Waashington anymore. GM goes to bed Tuesday night and wakes up screaming in a cold sweat from the horrible nightmare of realizing Dylan Strome is his 1C.

So he swings a deal dumping his mediocre #1 goalie and takes PLD off of LA's hands. If they can get PLD to play somewhere close to his potential, its a decent and fairly cheap deal for Washington to pick up a #1C who is only 25. Might work, might not.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:24 PM ET
Been rumored rangers and Hawks have had talks about Brandon Schneider. On to different thing involving both of these teams if the Rangers offered their 1st this year ottoman to take truboa contract off their hands would the Hawks make that deal?
- Scott1977


Schneider would be a great addition, for the right price.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 19 @ 9:32 PM ET
Just read (Fourth Period I think) that the Hawks are considering Chychrun (who’s a lefty, but has played the right side). Not sure how I feel about it, but the term and price aren’t bad.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 9:37 PM ET
The other other side of this deal - no Backstrom or Kuznetsov in Waashington anymore. GM goes to bed Tuesday night and wakes up screaming in a cold sweat from the horrible nightmare of realizing Dylan Strome is his 1C.

So he swings a deal dumping his mediocre #1 goalie and takes PLD off of LA's hands. If they can get PLD to play somewhere close to his potential, its a decent and fairly cheap deal for Washington to pick up a #1C who is only 25. Might work, might not.

- RickJ

Its his 4th team in 8 seasons. He is a GM killer. Strome had a much better season than PLD and that in and of itself is downright frightening.

But in the annals of GMs in every sport always think this time it will be different.

8 years in the league. He is what he is at this point.


Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
Just read (Fourth Period I think) that the Hawks are considering Chychrun (who’s a lefty, but has played the right side). Not sure how I feel about it, but the term and price aren’t bad.
- Chunk

LR's nephew. He is also an injury waiting to happen. He has played one 82 game season in his career and it was the last one. Odds favor he will miss time for the next 2 seasons.

Could it mean they see the reality of Korbumski?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 9:43 PM ET
Paul, you're asking a projection question if a 17/18 yr old will play tough in NHL playoff games. Not much different than asking if a kid's fancy skills will translate to the NHL. A projection question that can't be answered 100% until they get to the NHL.

But, if one asks will McTavish's grit translate to the NHL watching him as a jrs player? Sure looked like it would. Same for Lindstrom.

I watched Schmaltz 10 times live and 25 times on video and I'd answer that question, no. ...... So yea, some profile as probably NHL tough, others not so much, but we can only project.

You're saying only draft kids with a profile that projects NHL playoffs tough?

- Mr Ricochet


You and I came to the some conclusion you have to be careful about Parekh. He absolutely dominated the regular season but his trepidation with the heavy going in the playoffs and Mem Cup highlighted a different less effective player. D!ckinson on the other hand raised his game in the playoffs. Sennecke rose in the draft rankings so drastically because he also elevated his game. And in each case it wasn’t about points but in how they played. D!ckinson and Sennecke got more involved, played in all areas of the ice while Parekh was more cautious where he was at any given time. You can tell if a player has the stomach for the heavy going based on HOW he plays. That doesn’t mean a Parekh may one day figure out and play in the heavy going. But it’s something a scout has to be aware of.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 19 @ 9:47 PM ET
Schneider would be a great addition, for the right price.
- DarthKane

Imo Davidson probably making calls around the league inquiring about players Hawks are interested in and a deal can be made. I would consider two second rounders or Toronto's 1st next year for Schneider if deal can be made. Rangers are entering cap hell so a player might have to be sacrificed. And still need a top six rw. Chytil might another cap casualty I know he has had concussion issues but would look nice behind Benard as second lone center.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 19 @ 9:52 PM ET
Its his 4th team in 8 seasons. He is a GM killer. Strome had a much better season than PLD and that in and of itself is downright frightening.

But in the annals of GMs in every sport always think this time it will be different.

8 years in the league. He is what he is at this point.

- Elbows15

Dont disagree, the resume isnt good. But desperate teams do desperate things. Not many other choices on the open market, But it isn't like PLD lacks ability.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 9:57 PM ET
Dont disagree, the resume isnt good. But desperate teams do desperate things. Not many other choices on the open market, But it isn't like PLD lacks ability.
- RickJ

Unless you consider desire an ability.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 10:01 PM ET
Imo Davidson probably making calls around the league inquiring about players Hawks are interested in and a deal can be made. I would consider two second rounders or Toronto's 1st next year for Schneider if deal can be made. Rangers are entering cap hell so a player might have to be sacrificed. And still need a top six rw. Chytil might another cap casualty I know he has had concussion issues but would look nice behind Benard as second lone center.
- Scott1977

Meh. Schneider is a bottom pair D-man. No way is he worth a first of any kind. Maybe a late 2nd and I personally think Kaiser or EDM will be better. Give em Allan and call it a day.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 19 @ 10:11 PM ET
Imo Davidson probably making calls around the league inquiring about players Hawks are interested in and a deal can be made. I would consider two second rounders or Toronto's 1st next year for Schneider if deal can be made. Rangers are entering cap hell so a player might have to be sacrificed. And still need a top six rw. Chytil might another cap casualty I know he has had concussion issues but would look nice behind Benard as second lone center.
- Scott1977


I'm sure he's doing his due diligence, but believe it or not he's in the driver's seat, he doesn't have to help any team unless they make it worth our while.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 19 @ 10:31 PM ET
I'm sure he's doing his due diligence, but believe it or not he's in the driver's seat, he doesn't have to help any team unless they make it worth our while.
- BetweenTheDots

That was the point Iwas trying to make
Utah wants to make a splash with the new owner in place so they are not taking on cap casually trade imo Anaheim wants to take the next step so most likely only do it if makes sense. Same with Buffalo so that leaves San Jose and Chicago to possibly fleeced cap he'll teams. So time will tell what happens.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 19 @ 10:59 PM ET
That was the point Iwas trying to make
Utah wants to make a splash with the new owner in place so they are not taking on cap casually trade imo Anaheim wants to take the next step so most likely only do it if makes sense. Same with Buffalo so that leaves San Jose and Chicago to possibly fleeced cap he'll teams. So time will tell what happens.

- Scott1977


I thought KD said he wanted to improve the team on the ice next year, instead of surfing for other teams garbage.
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