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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
Now the site won’t let you post a reply when you quote someone? Lol
- Cush29

Alway find that on page 1 posts. If you delete the very last " symbol from end of the url, and reload the page quotes will work...on pg 1 at least.

Were you quoting a post from page 1?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
I dont believe it.
- Fakepartofme


No it's true, I'm a super heavy Blue and White Kool Aid user....some might even say it's a problem...but it's just that I have a really high tolerance
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 19 @ 2:44 PM ET
Fun fact time for those campaigning for PLD

He is a problem child and by all accounts a poopty teammate and you can't even say he brings more to the table than someone like JT.

JT had more goals, assists and points than PLD in less games this past regular season.

JT - 29 goals / 36 A in 80 games

PLD - 16 goals / 24 A in 82 games

Oh wait what about playoffs?

JT - 1 G/ 1 A in 7 games
PLD - 1 G in 5 games

The biggest difference is in penalty minutes.

PLD - 70 PIMs in regular season and 20 in 5 playoff games
JT - 30 PIMs in regular season and 2 in 7 playoff games

Hard no to PLD for me.

- Cush29


Fair Cush.

PLD has much lesser line mates in LA than JT. But totally respect that opinion.

TBH not even sure I care much about PLD unless 50% but it was also the chance to get Matt Roy and Brandt Clarke and lose Marner's Cap hit that made the deal more appealing to me.

Still want Roy (UFA) and young Brandt Clarke though....and LAs 1st...over Marner's rising cost. Figured the deal for a "broke playoff" Marner might be more acceptable to another GM if it included a "broke" PLD and I still think PLD as at least a 3C for $4.25 would be great for the Leafs for the next however many years.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
PLD and Berube would be nuts and gum
- drexel

Your opinion. I feel the opposite. Berube is no wussy and won't take poop. Could be a great combo.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jun 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Tavares and PLD played on the same line during the worlds. They look good playing together in my eyes.
- dmnted

Finally someone watches other hockey. I noticed that too.

PLD is pretty good on the Kings. Doesn't have the right talent around him. But he's a tough fuker.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
Your opinion. I feel the opposite. Berube is no wussy and won't take poop. Could be a great combo.
- underhill14

if thats the case. Keep Marner then

PLD really excelled under McLellan.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 2:53 PM ET
Finally someone watches other hockey. I noticed that too.

PLD is pretty good on the Kings. Doesn't have the right talent around him. But he's a tough fuker.

- underhill14


A 60 point guy - at best - for 8.5 million for the next 7 years when he'll be 33? You wouldn't have any misgivings about how that might go?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
Goodrow is a gooder on the PK which the leafs need.. but at a mil or less.

its annoying other teams just help NYR out of a cap hit like that
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:56 PM ET
No it's true, I'm a super heavy Blue and White Kool Aid user....some might even say it's a problem...but it's just that I have a really high tolerance
- Zezel

Nope. You're a cheap, fall down drunk on that poopt, Zez.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 2:57 PM ET
PLD to wash
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
Goodrow is a gooder on the PK which the leafs need.. but at a mil or less.

its annoying other teams just help NYR out of a cap hit like that

- senstroll

San Jose is gonna regret that one. Good player, not worth that caphit tho.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 3:00 PM ET
San Jose is gonna regret that one. Good player, not worth that caphit tho.
- GalacticStone


if you are bad and not a cap team..doesnt really matter...need bodies.. and "veteran leadership" etc etc
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
PLD to wash
- senstroll

Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
The world’s talent level isn’t quite the same tho
- Dozzer


It isn't. There's no doubt you play against some rosters that are AHL calibre at best. The principal that one guy who can win board battles or draw bodies to him creates more room for skilled guys to manoeuvre doesn't really change though. PLD is someone who will do that - when he feels like playing.

That said, Drexel isn't really wrong - PLD's inconsistent work ethic coupled with his actual ability to be useful would drive any coach nuts. This is a guy who has had Tortorella for 4 years, Maurice for 2, Rick Bowness for 1 and Todd McLellan this year - he has had some of the best coaches in the NHL and refused to grow his game. I doubt that Berube is the guy who can finally make him a "gud pro".

The point remains that when PLD is on his game he would likely elevate guys like Nylander and Tavares. I don't want an inconsistent project man-baby who has been gifted ice time his entire career just because he's tall though.


drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
does LA know they could have gotten Marner but settled for Kuemper?
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
PLD to wash
- senstroll


Even better!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
San Jose is gonna regret that one. Good player, not worth that caphit tho.
- GalacticStone


I doubt it. They are years away from their draft picks requiring large contracts.

They are also paying more this year in retained salary and buyout money than they're paying anyone on their roster. Goodrow's up in 3 years just when RFA Will Smith will be ready to re-up for his bridge deal.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 3:11 PM ET
I doubt it. They are years away from their draft picks requiring large contracts.

They are also paying more this year in retained salary and buyout money than they're paying anyone on their roster. Goodrow's up in 3 years just when RFA Will Smith will be ready to re-up for his bridge deal.

- Monkeypunk


i wonder if SJ tried to get him and get a pick back with him. seems dumb not to try.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 3:13 PM ET
does LA know they could have gotten Marner but settled for Kuemper?
- drexel


overall not great asset management in the PLD moves for LA



Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 19 @ 3:14 PM ET
Nope. You're a cheap, fall down drunk on that poopt, Zez.
- fifty__missions


That's fair
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Name the Traitors!, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 19 @ 3:16 PM ET
PLD deal must have been in the works for a while. Explains Washington buying CapFriendly
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
PLD to wash
- senstroll

for G Kuemper
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
Go Oilers!
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jun 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
San Jose is gonna regret that one. Good player, not worth that caphit tho.
- GalacticStone

help the Shark get to the cap floor
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 19 @ 3:19 PM ET
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