My guess for return package

Jake Allen
Alexander Holtz
#10

Calgary may have added something on their side.
- Glak18

that would be a huge over payment and mistake.

Yeah seems a bit underwhelming and makes one wonder why it took so long for THAT deal to get done.
- mikeyo27

I figured a trade like this before the draft would involve this year's draft picks.

Great deal for the Devils to keep their pick and get a solid goaltender. NJ looks like they did what others have done in the past...good team with expectations having a down year due to injuries and comes out of it with another solid pick.

that would be a huge over payment and mistake.
- hello it's me 2050

If that's the case than expect something like a 2nd and maybe a B prospect for TK.

If the Flyers are truly still in rebuild mode, they need to move Atkinson, any way possible. It’s going to be a priority to offer as much playing time and roster spots to their prospects and see what they have. It doesn’t make much sense to continue have a spot occupied by a declining veteran with a high cap hit who apparently doesn’t want to be here. Atkinson might want to rethink his no-trade list.

cole hutson, always chasing the wrong brother!!!
- hello it's me 2050

This is so true. I think only the Eagles have avoided this.

That makes NJ a contender
- hfc355

That….and if they can stay healthy.

If the Flyers are truly still in rebuild mode, they need to move Atkinson, any way possible. It’s going to be a priority to offer as much playing tim
- Sublime55

The question is why do the Flyers end up in these situations year after year?

Probably because their solution is always the same. Buyout, trade with a sweetener, trade and swap for another crap contract....

Maybe the Flyers could try something...new. Ride it out, take the punishment and be done with it. If they buy him out there is no question they are going to use that space to hurt themselves in the future, so they can have this decision AGAIN.

If that's the case than expect something like a 2nd and maybe a B prospect for TK.
- Glak18

comparing goalies and skaters is a bad comparison.

The question is why do the Flyers end up in these situations year after year?

Probably because their solution is always the same. Buyout, trade with a sweetener, trade and swap for another crap contract....

Maybe the Flyers could try something...new. Ride it out, take the punishment and be done with it. If they buy him out there is no question they are going to use that space to hurt themselves in the future, so they can have this decision AGAIN.
- Glak18

Even if the Flyers want to go out and bring in a high priced FA, they’ve boxed themselves in with their current cap situation. They’re probably another year away from obtaining the cap flexibility where they could even entertain doing that .

comparing goalies and skaters is a bad comparison.
- hello it's me 2050

Yea, one has nothing to do with the other

What’s a trade for
TK and Hathaway look like.

11,Kulich, Ryan Johnson.
- ImThatGuy

Hahahahahahahha is what Buffalo would say

If the Flyers are truly in rebuild mode, you must keep CA and play him. You play on the 4th line. He's not blocking younger players from showing anything bc you don't want your young guys on the 4th line. If, somehow, he has a decent year, you move him for whatever you can get during the year. DO NOT buy him out!

Even if the Flyers want to go out and bring in a high priced FA, they’ve boxed themselves in with their current cap situation. They’re probably another year away from the cap flexibility where they could even entertain doing that .
- Sublime55

The cap flexibility should be used to facilitate trades that other teams can't do. There is absolute NO ONE the Flyers could sign this year, next year or the following year that is going to change the situation the Flyers put them in....NO ONE. Signing a late 20's/early 30's (even if it's a superstar) would be a disaster for the team.

They need a superstar that is young, that produces not takes 4 years to develop, and cap friendly to start. The Flyers have been trying to buy them out of mistakes since the 90's, even before the salary cap, and the results speak for themselves.

Edit: It took San Jose 2 years to have a better future outlook than the Flyers and that team looked hopeless.

If the Flyers are truly in rebuild mode, you must keep CA and play him. You play on the 4th line. He's not blocking younger players from showing anything bc you don't want your young guys on the 4th line. If, somehow, he has a decent year, you move him for whatever you can get during the year. DO NOT buy him out!
- bsw31usa

Except having guy on roster does invariably mean that he will occupy playing time and a roster spot. I’m also not concerned about the cap hit for the 25-26 season when their cap situation clears up significantly.

The cap flexibility should be used to facilitate trades that other teams can't do. There is absolute NO ONE the Flyers could sign this year, next year or the following year that is going to change the situation the Flyers put them in....NO ONE. Signing a late 20's/early 30's (even if it's a superstar) would be a disaster for the team.

They need a superstar that is young, that produces not takes 4 years to develop, and cap friendly to start. The Flyers have been trying to buy them out of mistakes since the 90's, even before the salary cap, and the results speak for themselves.
- Glak18

They did utilize their cap space last offseason to acquire more picks when they dealt Provorov. Having Peterson’s cap hit is a consequence, albeit necessary one considering they made out well in the deal. Same goes for what’s left for taking on Matt Duchene’s contract to get another first. I can live with these contracts knowing they’ve improved their chances of getting more talent in the future

Isn’t it possible that CA’s play could improve this year? He was coming off spinal surgery last season. Cam thinks he can still play, so give him the opportunity to prove it. If he’s terrible send him to the Phantoms…or maybe he can come down with a mysterious multi-level core injury of some kind

Except having guy on roster does invariably mean that he will occupy playing time and a roster spot. I’m also not concerned about the cap hit for the 25-26 season when their cap situation clears up significantly.
- Sublime55

That means the Flyers think they are going to compete, that means it's over before it begins.


[2024-25]

[VALUE 7,875,000]
Konency
Hathaway

[JUNK 16,541,667]
Atkinson
Johansen
Petersen
Deangelo


[2025-26]

[VALUE 4,900,000]
Laughton
Poehling

[JUNK 8,596,428]
Deslauriers
Fedotov
Hayes


That's A LOT of cap that can be cleared up over two years that can absolutely change the team to a major strength. Some of it can be used to re-sign some players that they want to keep. That kind of flexibility would change the decision making especially when it comes to trades. How many trades DIDN'T happen because the Flyers and the other team couldn't work out the cap? Probably more than most think.

Stay the course, draft better and build OR do what the Flyers ALWAYS do.

They did utilize their cap space last offseason to acquire more picks when they dealt Provorov. Having Peterson’s cap hit is a consequence, albeit necessary one considering they made out well in the deal. Same goes for what’s left for taking on Matt Duchene’s contract to get another first. I can live with these contracts knowing they’ve improved their chances of getting more talent in the future
- Sublime55

I agree taking on these contracts if they get something out of it is worth it, but if there's no breathing room than that creates an indirect consequence that affects other actions (trades, re-signing, etc).

The state the team is in, the Flyers should be able to take those crap contracts and still have plenty to work with, not be up against it.

Isn’t it possible that CA’s play could improve this year? He was coming off spinal surgery last season. Cam thinks he can still play, so give him the opportunity to prove it. If he’s terrible send him to the Phantoms…or maybe he can come down with a mysterious multi-level core injury of some kind
- Dkos

I just realized the dog is crapping on the Flyers logo...why did I never notice that?

That means the Flyers think they are going to compete, that means it's over before it begins.



- Glak18[2024-25]

[VALUE 7,875,000]
Konency
Hathaway

[JUNK 16,541,667]
Atkinson
Johansen
Petersen
Deangelo


[2025-26]

[VALUE 4,900,000]
Laughton
Poehling

[JUNK 8,596,428]
Deslauriers
Fedotov
Hayes


That's A LOT of cap that can be cleared up over two years that can absolutely change the team to a major strength. Some of it can be used to re-sign some players that they want to keep. That kind of flexibility would change the decision making especially when it comes to trades. How many trades DIDN'T happen because the Flyers and the other team couldn't work out the cap? Probably more than most think.

Stay the course, draft better and build OR do what the Flyers ALWAYS do.

They will do option B always do

I just realized the dog is crapping on the Flyers logo...why did I never notice that?
- Glak18

I made it as a joke when that police dog crapped on the logo. I was going to replace it shortly after, but folks around here seemed to like it so it stayed. It really doesn't represent my feelings about the organization. I'm one of the few around here who still feels that it is the realm of possibility that the current administration may not F things up.

The cap flexibility should be used to facilitate trades that other teams can't do. There is absolute NO ONE the Flyers could sign this year, next year or the following year that is going to change the situation the Flyers put them in....NO ONE. Signing a late 20's/early 30's (even if it's a superstar) would be a disaster for the team.

They need a superstar that is young, that produces not takes 4 years to develop, and cap friendly to start. The Flyers have been trying to buy them out of mistakes since the 90's, even before the salary cap, and the results speak for themselves.

Edit: It took San Jose 2 years to have a better future outlook than the Flyers and that team looked hopeless.
- Glak18

Yep, having a 1c and 2c pretty much for the next 10 years will do that.

I made it as a joke when that police dog crapped on the logo. I was going to replace it shortly after, but folks around here seemed to like it so it stayed. It really doesn't represent my feelings about the organization. I'm one of the few around here who still feels that it is the realm of possibility that the current administration may not F things up.
- Dkos

Briere and company just started and have made the cliche PR speak people like, but the leash is short. Re-signing TK, signing unneeded UFA (especially with term) and their decisions at the draft will finally show what is in their minds.

No person can reshape a team in one offseason or TDL, but their actions or lack of will be the telling story.

That means the Flyers think they are going to compete, that means it's over before it begins.



- Glak18[2024-25]

[VALUE 7,875,000]
Konency
Hathaway

[JUNK 16,541,667]
Atkinson
Johansen
Petersen
Deangelo


[2025-26]

[VALUE 4,900,000]
Laughton
Poehling

[JUNK 8,596,428]
Deslauriers
Fedotov
Hayes


That's A LOT of cap that can be cleared up over two years that can absolutely change the team to a major strength. Some of it can be used to re-sign some players that they want to keep. That kind of flexibility would change the decision making especially when it comes to trades. How many trades DIDN'T happen because the Flyers and the other team couldn't work out the cap? Probably more than most think.

Stay the course, draft better and build OR do what the Flyers ALWAYS do.

Don't forget Ellis. His contract can always be traded and he would also come off the books in 3 years.

Risto will also be gone in 3 years

Yep, having a 1c and 2c pretty much for the next 10 years will do that.
- MBFlyerfan

Chicago is a garbage organization, but they are doing the same or at least trying. Eventually teams like Washington, Pittsburgh, Boston, Tampa will end up in that scenario and do the same. The Flyers seem to be stubborn and think they can shortcut the process while wasting year after year.