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Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 19 @ 5:28 PM ET
I would be shocked if Laughton was not in a deal with OTT. Also, thought I read at deadline Flyers more interested in Chabot then Chychryn.

https://x.com/ADiMarco25/...TqeR4iYEAAxAht0DoPYw&s=19

- Trox88


Could be a smaller deal. Laughton and one of the 2nds in ‘24 or ‘25 for Pinto.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:29 PM ET
Norris for Couturier
- furio16


Well shoulder is safer than back and he is younger.

That's a tough one to decide
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 19 @ 5:30 PM ET
There’s been so many names mentioned….”IF” a trade does happen…there’s a lot of different pieces that could be in the deal…could be huge exchange of assets…could be one for one.
- landros 2


I could see a pick swap as part of the deal, but doubtful Flyers end up with #7 and #12.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 19 @ 5:31 PM ET
Could be a smaller deal. Laughton and one of the 2nds in ‘24 or ‘25 for Pinto.
- Schmojo


Fine with the Flyers getting younger at center. Pinto and Sens currently at impasse on a new contract.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:32 PM ET
Does TK alone get you 7? I don’t think so. We also don’t have a goalie. We have a bunch of maybes.
- ClaudeFather


There's so many things that have to be fixed before worrying about the goaltenders...the position I was told is too unpredictable and a crapshoot.

Sign Hasek in his prime and maybe he saves a goal or two a game, but when you can't score and give up tons chances the goalie means nothing.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 19 @ 5:42 PM ET
Well you nailed it, tanking one year is not the answer. You have to build the cupboard and the Flyers have ALWAYS been unwilling to do that. If the Flyers wanted to stay away from the "tank" then they have to be better drafters, especially later rounds where others always seem to find good ones.

Flyers are pretty good at drafting "safe" good NHL players, those teams don't win cups.

- Glak18


That was the draft strategy under Hextall and we’re seeing the effects of that now. Even when you hit on those players you’re mostly getting a middle of the lineup player.

Fletch and Briere both said they need to start taking bigger swings. Picks like Gauthier, Michkov, and even Barkey were bigger swings. Hexy would have taken Ryan Leonard, who will likely be a very good player but he doesn’t have the ceiling of Michkov.

It really comes down to Briere, if Briere asks them to reco the highest ceiling players regardless of risk then they might find some stars. But if he asks for players who have the highest floor then little will change.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
Fine with the Flyers getting younger at center. Pinto and Sens currently at impasse on a new contract.
- Trox88


Yep, could be why there more talk of the Atkinson buyout to make room for Pinto’s deal.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
There's so many things that have to be fixed before worrying about the goaltenders...the position I was told is too unpredictable and a crapshoot.

Sign Hasek in his prime and maybe he saves a goal or two a game, but when you can't score and give up tons chances the goalie means nothing.

- Glak18

I’m not worrying about goaltending. You’re taking a goalie on to make a trade work. Flyers should be playing the long game here.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:46 PM ET
Yep, could be why there more talk of the Atkinson buyout to make room for Pinto’s deal.
- Schmojo



Wouldn’t it suck if it’s Cam Atkinson and a 7th for a 6th …
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jun 19 @ 5:49 PM ET
PLD NMC was going to kicks in July 1. Cutting it close was LA
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 19 @ 5:51 PM ET
Wouldn’t it suck if it’s Cam Atkinson and a 7th for a 6th …
- landros 2


Hahahaha, that would be hilarious
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:52 PM ET
I’m not worrying about goaltending. You’re taking a goalie on to make a trade work. Flyers should be playing the long game here.
- ClaudeFather


What's the long game for the Flyers, 30 years?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:53 PM ET
Fine with the Flyers getting younger at center. Pinto and Sens currently at impasse on a new contract.
- Trox88


That’s what’s going on I bet. Pinto is on the outs and we need help at centre. Hes 23 so he’s a little bit old but he’ll have to do haha.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
Wouldn’t it suck if it’s Cam Atkinson and a 7th for a 6th …
- landros 2


That would be a WONDERFUL trade, but sometimes I think Philly fans care more about trades that make the news more than whether the trade is good.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
What's the long game for the Flyers, 30 years?
- Glak18

No number one center, D, goalie…you do the math.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
I’m not worrying about goaltending. You’re taking a goalie on to make a trade work. Flyers should be playing the long game here.
- ClaudeFather


But that’s not what you said. You said “we don’t have a goalie yet, just a bunch of maybes.” That means you’re intentionally acquiring him to be the goalie not just to make the salary work.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
Reports Flyers and Senators have frame work for a trade in place….may happen closer to the draft…..reported by Trevor Jost.
- landros 2



For some reason I have a feeling Frost will be involved in that deal if it happens.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:56 PM ET
Does TK alone get you 7? I don’t think so. We also don’t have a goalie. We have a bunch of maybes.
- ClaudeFather


I think he does. Also. Who is the sure fire stud we’ll pick at 7? It worries me because this isn’t a deep draft.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:00 PM ET
LA looks like a much better destination for TK now. It worked for Carter and Richards eh eh eh...

No way they part with Clarke, but I could see a 1st and Turcotte. Not sure how I think of that, but maybe.

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:02 PM ET
For some reason I have a feeling Frost will be involved in that deal if it happens.
- MBFlyerfan


Could very well be. It sounds like db is going to be very active. This is why I’m all for giving him a shot to see how he builds the team before throwing him under the bus.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:04 PM ET
I think he does. Also. Who is the sure fire stud we’ll pick at 7? It worries me because this isn’t a deep draft.
- Hextall271


The question is who are the top 7 players you want? You know Celebrini is going first so are there 6 players who you think are better or can help the team more than TK?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:07 PM ET
Reports Flyers and Senators have frame work for a trade in place….may happen closer to the draft…..reported by Trevor Jost.
- landros 2

Giroux lol
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:08 PM ET
Giroux lol
- hereticpride


Talk about a kick in the balls that would be.

furio16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Moscow, ID
Joined: 06.07.2007

Jun 19 @ 6:10 PM ET
That’s what’s going on I bet. Pinto is on the outs and we need help at centre. Hes 23 so he’s a little bit old but he’ll have to do haha.
- Hextall271

Where is the Pinto on the outs coming from?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:12 PM ET
Talk about a kick in the balls that would be.
- Glak18

Hey if they could swap Cam for G I’d do it at this point. It at least gets us a center until we can develop someone.

I’d 100% rather trade 12th overall straight up for a young center with upside however.
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