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Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 4:59 PM ET
Not sure that’s a loophole but blatant negligence by his agent.
- ChrisMS



How is it by his agent?? Not all players have full NTC's
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 5:00 PM ET
Ill take a health Kane, Good RW who was here before, nothing given up, only 2 more years of Panarin so they need to do something.
- Brukie

I was just doing a 25-26 team and we’re (frank)ed as it is, and that’s without signing a RW past next year. Thats kind of the point I’m making, it almost has to be a one year guy and who else is doing that besides Kane? Not many
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 5:01 PM ET
Pretty sure they didn’t intend the waiver process to be able to void a players contract. Not sure they could actually do anything about it though. But if they do have their feathers ruffled it’s something that probably gets renegotiated in the next cba.
- ChrisMS



Goodrows contract isnt voided, he is getting his full salary.
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
I was just doing a 25-26 team and we’re (frank)ed as it is, and that’s without signing a RW past next year. Thats kind of the point I’m making, it almost has to be a one year guy and who else is doing that besides Kane? Not many
- Slimtj100



Im sure the Cap will go up slightly but you position your self for that season, Im sure there will be another move or 2 made.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
How is it by his agent?? Not all players have full NTC's
- Brukie


If staals agent wasn’t on top of Marc to get his list and ensure it’s submitted on time then that’s negligence. That’s basically the definition of his job. Handle the contractual aspects of the players business
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
Goodrow was getting bought out. Thats pretty clear. Since he got claimed he won’t. So all he lost is probably what a million bucks? As a UFA post buyout (ie-wheeler)
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
Goodrows contract isnt voided, he is getting his full salary.
- Brukie


The ntc was essentially voided. That’s as much a part of the contract as the salary. If the rangers didn’t possibly end run that they might have bought him out. He’d be paid out some by the rangers and could have signed with another team… possibly even making more money with combined salaries.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
Im sure the Cap will go up slightly but you position your self for that season, Im sure there will be another move or 2 made.
- Brukie

Yea the cap lift will need be to be pretty high. I went up 92.5 million on the one I did

Shesty
Laf
Cuylle
Miller
Edstrom
Rempe
Jones

All need deals…including Schneider and Lindgren this year.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 19 @ 5:07 PM ET
Pretty sure they didn’t intend the waiver process to be able to void a players contract. Not sure they could actually do anything about it though. But if they do have their feathers ruffled it’s something that probably gets renegotiated in the next cba.
- ChrisMS


What are you talking about void the contract? Nothing’s been voided. He still has 3 years 10 mil left on it. The sharks will be paying it.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:07 PM ET
Goodrow was getting bought out. Thats pretty clear. Since he got claimed he won’t. So all he lost is probably what a million bucks? As a UFA post buyout (ie-wheeler)
- Slimtj100


“All he lost is probably what a million bucks”

What?

Who are you? Mark Zuckerberg?

mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
The ntc was essentially voided. That’s as much a part of the contract as the salary. If the rangers didn’t possibly end run that they might have bought him out. He’d be paid out some by the rangers and could have signed with another team… possibly even making more money with combined salaries.
- ChrisMS


Most teams know not to do that.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
What are you talking about void the contract? Nothing’s been voided. He still has 3 years 10 mil left on it. The sharks will be paying it.
- jimbro83


The ntc was… maybe. And that’s part of the contract.

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 19 @ 5:09 PM ET
The ntc was… maybe. And that’s part of the contract.
- ChrisMS


He still has his 15 team NTC lol
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 5:10 PM ET
“All he lost is probably what a million bucks”

What?

Who are you? Mark Zuckerberg?

- ChrisMS

How much you think he would get if he was bought out? It isn’t much more then one million bucks

He still would get 3.6 a year would he not?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:11 PM ET
I doubt with the significant advantages the rangers have in attracting free agents that drury doing one bottom six player dirty affects the teams ability to attract said free agents… but it’s not a good rep to have.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:13 PM ET
How much you think he would get if he was bought out? It isn’t much more then one million bucks

He still would get 3.6 a year would he not?

- Slimtj100


Hard to know. Look what Chicago paid foligno and Perry? Who’s to say he does get another three plus mil from someone who just didn’t want him at three years?
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:17 PM ET
He still has his 15 team NTC lol
- jimbro83


Fat lot of good it did him him if it can be circumnavigated. Maybe the use of the word voided is hanging this conversation up. Side stepped? Acted in ill faith? Done him dirty?

What’s funny about what you said is if that’s true his 15 team list is still active he may be the only nhl player with his own team on his no trade list 😂
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Hard to know. Look what Chicago paid foligno and Perry? Who’s to say he does get another three plus mil from someone who just didn’t want him at three years?
- ChrisMS

I have a feeling Goodrow gave his blessing on this. He grew up in that org basically. It’s California, he can just mentor guys, he has cups, he gets paid handsomely already..he isn’t getting screwed imo.

Rangers get the best outcome out of everyone, and you seem to be salty about it haha
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:28 PM ET
I have a feeling Goodrow gave his blessing on this. He grew up in that org basically. It’s California, he can just mentor guys, he has cups, he gets paid handsomely already..he isn’t getting screwed imo.

Rangers get the best outcome out of everyone, and you seem to be salty about it haha

- Slimtj100

Not salty. Don’t have a stake in the game. I find the business aspect of the game so interesting. So this , if not approved by goodriw, seems to be a fascinating move that might see some ripples come from it.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 19 @ 5:33 PM ET
Not salty. Don’t have a stake in the game. I find the business aspect of the game so interesting. So this , if not approved by goodriw, seems to be a fascinating move that might see some ripples come from it.
- ChrisMS


I’m going to guess that whatever you’re thinking will come from this won’t. Nobody cares. You’re speculating an awful lot and haven’t given any kind of support. If they arranged this with SJ and goodrow didn’t have them on his trade list, is that breaking an actual rule? Show us something bucko
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:39 PM ET
I’m going to guess that whatever you’re thinking will come from this won’t. Nobody cares. You’re speculating an awful lot and haven’t given any kind of support. If they arranged this with SJ and goodrow didn’t have them on his trade list, is that breaking an actual rule? Show us something bucko
- picklerick


Nope. My supposition that problems could occur is based on him having San Jose on his nt list. And not agreeing to it. The thing that seems odd if he was ok with it is why bother with the waiver thing in the first place. It looks bad. Sharks could have sent a prospect on an expiring contract they wernt gonna sign ( all teams have them this time of year) and rangers could have not signed that guy on the 1st so essentially give San Jose goodrow for free. Why do it this way unless goodrow wasn’t on board?
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 19 @ 5:40 PM ET
Nope. My supposition that problems could occur is based on him having San Jose on his nt list. And not agreeing to it. The thing that seems odd if he was ok with it is why bother with the waiver thing in the first place. It looks bad. Sharks could have sent a prospect on an expiring contract they wernt gonna sign ( all teams have them this time of year) and rangers could have not signed that guy on the 1st so essentially give San Jose goodrow for free. Why do it this way unless goodrow wasn’t on board?
- ChrisMS


What happens if he wasn’t on board is my question? Who cares? I mean yea it’s a poopty thing to do but is there a rule against it?
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 19 @ 5:42 PM ET
Please fix last paragraph!!! Having Neil Smith nightmares!!!
- mames11

Fixed, sorry. Brain cramp, hands moving faster than brain
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 19 @ 5:43 PM ET
The ntc was essentially voided. That’s as much a part of the contract as the salary. If the rangers didn’t possibly end run that they might have bought him out. He’d be paid out some by the rangers and could have signed with another team… possibly even making more money with combined salaries.
- ChrisMS

He could have waived his NTC, which likely would have been the case if SJ didn't have the first claim. Plus, something may still be heading back to NY for all we know
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
What happens if he wasn’t on board is my question? Who cares? I mean yea it’s a poopty thing to do but is there a rule against it?
- picklerick


I doubt it. Doubt drury risks some kind of actual backlash. Only thing could be gaining a rep as a turd among players / agents. Maybe a change on next cba. But overall it was a weird way to go about it.
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