Fun fact, the Flyers chose Jason Bowen with their second 1st at #15 that same year they picked Sittler.

Denis Metluk at #31


The list goes on. An epic bad draft year for them with only 2 players getting in any NHL games (Bowen 77), and Chris Herperger (#223 169 games none with the Flyers)
- MBFlyerfan

1992 was a below-average Draft in general. But the Flyers, in between very deep 1990, strong 1991 and 1993 Drafts, had a dud in 1992. Ryan Sittler, injuries aside, turned out not to be an NHL talent. Bowen was yo-yoed back and forth from defense to wing.

If a trade does occurs, I hope TK is involved and we keep our #12. I get the desire to move up to get a potential 1D in the draft but I also want that #12. There will be a good player there and I am not willing to give up the moon for 5 places.

My dream trade with OTT:

PHI: TK (50% retained), Laughton, Zamula (or Attard), #32 in 2024, and 2nd in 2025

OTT: Chychrun, Pinto, and #7
- coffee junkie

I don’t think any dream trade should begin with your team retaining any salary. Beyond this, it’s like trading Connor McDavid and Darnell Nurse and a third overall pick for Blair Betts, Ian Laperriere and a first round pick. Nothing here is serving Ottawa in this trade.

A lot of you, based on your trade proposals, are going to disappointed next week.

There is little to zero chance that the Sens are moving the 7th pick to the Flyers in any package that doesn’t include the 12th pick going to Ottawa.

If the Flyers are gonna make a deal with anyone to move up and/or grab another first, I would look to Buffalo who is desperate to make the playoffs in 2025. Packaging Farabee or Laughton with the Panthers pick might get them 11OA.

The Flyers are a lazy, unprofessional organization. This is why coaches like Lappy and Rocky don't get replaced.

Tyler Boucher is and will be a total bust. Was war overrated because of name recognition. Injuries are not the main or sole reason for his disappointment so far.

Any deal made he will be a part of it one can easily see.

I'm gonna laugh when the trade ends up being just Tyler Boucher for Samu Tuomaala or something of that ilk.

My guess is Chabot with Farabee going other way

That becomes an expensive, and pretty old D-core for a "rebuilding" team, and York will need a new contract next season.

Chabot - 4 x $8m
Sanheim - 7 x $6.25m
Ristolainen - 3 x $5.1m
Seeler - 4 x $2.7m
Drysdale - 2 x $2.3m
York - 1 x 1.6m

You don't know that. If the Sens are trading out of 7, most likely its because they don't want any more young players they need to wait to develop, but instead want NHL vets that can move their team forward. I would think Laughton + Farabee + 32th pick + Atkinson(50% retained) should get back the 7th pick plus more.
- jd250

Why would the Sens want Atkinson? He lowers the value of any trade package. Also Sens take on what 10 million plus in cap with none coming back.

That becomes an expensive, and pretty old D-core for a "rebuilding" team, and York will need a new contract next season.

Chabot - 4 x $8m
Sanheim - 7 x $6.25m
Ristolainen - 3 x $5.1m
Seeler - 4 x $2.7m
Drysdale - 2 x $2.3m
York - 1 x 1.6m
- Feanor

They have to be dumping another D or Zamula is the odd man out.

The Flyers may lack talent, but they not a bad team, not by a long shot. I'm with you though, DB needs to be aggressive in this draft and get a top player. I hope the Flyers can keep 12 also because I really want the Flyers to draft Solberg too!
- jd250

Are the Flyers a good team in your eyes? What constitutes a good team in your eyes. They've finished in the bottom 3rd of the league, two years in a row.

Flyers regular season finishes since Covid

19th
29th
26th
21st

Not bad

Think about it you want to give Laughton who is a dime a dozen player that overpaid, Sens can pick up a similar UFA player for nothing, Farabee who is a decent prospect but nothing more, the 32nd pick in a weak draft and a worthless Atkinson for #7 plus more?? Why not throw in ND and ask for their 2025 1st also. Be realistic
- hfc355

I agree with your overall premise but Farabee is not a prospect. He's a solid established NHL player.

I agree with your overall premise but Farabee is not a prospect. He's a solid established NHL player.
- MJL

And in his 5th NHL season, 24 year old Farabee had a 50 point season on a team with the league's worst powerplay.

Flyers regular season finishes since Covid

19th
29th
26th
21st

Not bad
- Feanor

One single playoff series win in the last dozen years.

(And that was against a #12 seed)

Goodness, we can’t agree that TK is equal to Pinto. With that opinion I want nothing to do with a second round pick that has played a total of 120 NHL games between injuries, being sent down and a major suspension. Here are his stats, I can’t agree they are of equal value. If OTT thinks so too, I’m out on the player.

21
Ottawa Senators
12
1
6
7
+6
10
0
0
0
0
12:31
0
0
11
9.1
40.9
2021-22
Ottawa Senators
5
0
1
1
+0
2
0
1
0
0
12:57
0
0
5
0.0
32.7
2022-23
Ottawa Senators
82
20
15
35
-21
18
5
9
0
0
15:58
2
0
158
12.7
52.1
2023-24
Ottawa Senators
41
9
18
27
+9
14
4
6
0
0
18:06
1
1
110
8.2
50.6
Career
140
30
40
70
- coffee junkie

currently he is no better than Frost, when you consider all the data, but he is a big body in the middle with upside, definitely a Flyers need. Need is the last part of the trade, If the Sens think they can compete now, that is tip towards TK, he is the better and more impactful player

That becomes an expensive, and pretty old D-core for a "rebuilding" team, and York will need a new contract next season.

Chabot - 4 x $8m
Sanheim - 7 x $6.25m
Ristolainen - 3 x $5.1m
Seeler - 4 x $2.7m
Drysdale - 2 x $2.3m
York - 1 x 1.6m
- Feanor

I am at a loss as to why this team would want to tie up 8 million a year for 4 years of an oft injured defenseman.

I am actually angry at the prospect of it.

I am at a loss as to why this team would want to tie up 8 million a year for 4 years of an oft injured defenseman.

I am actually angry at the prospect of it.
- MBFlyerfan

It only really makes sense if Sanheim is going the other way, but he has an NTC, and it would be very risky to move an ironman like Sanheim for Chabot or Chychrun or some other defeneseman with a long list of injuries.

The Flyers already have Ellis, Ristolainen and Drysdale on LTIR/IR/list of players who recently had surgery.

The list of most likely potential assets to be included. Mix and match as you will:

Chychrun
Pinto
Greig
#7

Farabee
Laughton
Frost
Zamula
#12
- Quetzalcoatl

Doesn't move the needle for me.

Agreed. I wasn't excited with these trade rumors at the TDL, and nothing has changed. The only asset to possibly get excited about is #7. If it happens, and that is a BIG if, we will still have to send #12 back, plus something from the roster. This only makes sense if the draft board falls in such a way that all of the high impact top 10 players are gone by #12, and I mean, high impact players where the Flyers have a need, like centermen or highly skilled defensemen. After reading many mock drafts, there is a scenario where this could happen, but like any draft, what are the odds? Like one of the other posters said here, don't want to give up the moon to move up 5 spots.

I always like to dream of what it would have been like had they traded Brind'Amour instead and had a 1/2 punch of Lindros/Forsberg down the middle. Oh the cups we may have won.
- MBFlyerfan

I was confused by this, I was reading that as "half punch" of Lindros/Forsberg...I'm so stupid LOL. I get it now, it's 1-2 punch down the middle of 88/21.

No team in the NHL salary cap era, and before, will be competitive in the playoffs and be a serious contender unless they have a really good 1-2 punch down the middle. As of right now, the Flyers are completely void of any of this, so any of these little middling moves don't really excite me.

[quote=BluehorseShoe64]
The list of most likely potential assets to be included. Mix and match as you will:

Chychrun
Pinto
Greig
#7

Farabee
Laughton
Frost
Zamula
#12
- Quetzalcoatl

Doesn't move the needle for me.

Agreed. I wasn't excited with these trade rumors at the TDL, and nothing has changed. The only asset to possibly get excited about is #7. If it happens, and that is a BIG if, we will still have to send #12 back, plus something from the roster. This only makes sense if the draft board falls in such a way that all of the high impact top 10 players are gone by #12, and I mean, high impact players where the Flyers have a need, like centermen or highly skilled defensemen. After reading many mock drafts, there is a scenario where this could happen, but like any draft, what are the odds? Like one of the other posters said here, don't want to give up the moon to move up 5 spots. It would have to be for a player that was projected to go well before #12.

Bill,
Over the years, on more than one occasion, I’ve heard people claim that the move of the Hershey Bears from the Flyers to the Nordiques/Avs was in some way related to the Lindros trade. Is there any truth to this? Thanks

There's one way to get a franchise #1 center, you draft him. There are a small number of exceptions, but few and far between. The Flyers will never be Stanley Cup competitive without a true number 1 star center.

Cup Champs

2023 Vegas - Eichel (trade)
2022 Colorado - MacKinnon (draft)
2021 Tampa - Stamkos/Point (draft)
2020 Tampa - Stamkos/Point (draft)
2019 St. Louis - O'Reilly (trade)
2018 Washington - Kuznetsov/Backstrom (draft)
2017 Pittsburgh - Crosby/Malkin (draft)
2016 Pittsburgh - Crosby/Malkin (draft)
2015 Chicago - Toews (draft)
2014 Los Angeles - Kopitar (draft)
2013 Chicago - Toews (draft)
2012 Los Angeles - Kopitar (draft)
2011 Boston - Bergeron (draft)
2010 Chicago - Toews (draft)
2009 Pittsburgh - Crosby/Malkin (draft)
2008 Detroit - Datsyuk/Zetterberg (draft)
2007 Anaheim - Getzlaf (draft)
2006 Carolina - Staal (draft)
2005 LOCKOUT

Flyers regular season finishes since Covid

19th
29th
26th
21st

Not bad
- Feanor

Gold Standard stuff right there

I agree with your overall premise but Farabee is not a prospect. He's a solid established NHL player.
- MJL

Didnt mean prospect in the purest sense should have said an unknown. Is he a 15 to 20 goal scorer in the nhl or will he develop into something more. He is established but the level of player he will be is still unknown

Gold Standard stuff right there
- corduroy

Rebuild or be stuck in the muddy middle forever.