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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 20 @ 1:46 PM ET
At least we have something to complain about EVERY SINGLE DAY in 3-4 years....
- Glak18


Just 3-4? 😆
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:06 PM ET
Just 3-4? 😆
- Pelle31Forever


We still have Torts and Nic D to fill the time
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 2:18 PM ET
After reading recent blog for Seattle about Laine, Konecny would be a great fit for Seattle.

Not sure what the return would be, definitely not #8, but would they part with 2025 1st or Wright, maybe Goyette or Firkus?
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Jun 20 @ 2:54 PM ET
It's as if this franchise is diseased or something. They need some serious job counseling.
- MJL


You would know about needing counseling so I’ll take your word for it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 20 @ 2:55 PM ET
Actual quote from the GM about how Lappy earned the extension:

"Development is critical, where we're at. Lappy's been part of this organization, understands this organization, he understands what our fans want and need. You know, and he's been one of those guys, he was I think he was a seventh round pick... he might get mad at me if he was lower than that. But ah, you know he had to fight for everything, he earned everything throughout his career. To have a guy like that, he can walk into a room as a coach and look at someone and say, you know what, that next shot - you better get on your knees and stop it with your face, cause he's done it."

Doomed.

- Feanor


This is the most flyer thing ever
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 2:56 PM ET
Anyone else annoyed by all this down time for the Final? Like a week between conference Finals and the Final. Now 2 whole off days between games. This sucks.
- mikeyo27


It's an 8-hour flight between the two cities. So basically half a day just for travel. Then they gotta load/unload all the equipment, bring it to and from the arena. There's no way they can do a faster turnaround.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 20 @ 2:59 PM ET
Actual quote from the GM about how Lappy earned the extension:

"Development is critical, where we're at. Lappy's been part of this organization, understands this organization, he understands what our fans want and need. You know, and he's been one of those guys, he was I think he was a seventh round pick... he might get mad at me if he was lower than that. But ah, you know he had to fight for everything, he earned everything throughout his career. To have a guy like that, he can walk into a room as a coach and look at someone and say, you know what, that next shot - you better get on your knees and stop it with your face, cause he's done it."

Doomed.

- Feanor


Understands what our fans want and need
Understands this organization


This organization is absolutely incompetent. I want out. Need to turn off the give a poop I have within. I need to figure out how
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:00 PM ET
lol is this real? High comedy if so
- StepfordSam


Either a puck to the face or punches to the face by Ross Johnston are the surest ways to earn a spot on this team.

Flyers hockey baby.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:04 PM ET
Either a puck to the face or punches to the face by Ross Johnston are the surest ways to earn a spot on this team.

Flyers hockey baby.

- Tomahawk


How many times a week do all the executives watch the movie Youngblood?

Forget your skill, be tough!
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 20 @ 3:10 PM ET
Yeah - they probably don't win the Cup in '94 if their trade had gone through. That's the ironic part of the whole thing - we trade Forsberg to QUE/COL, enabling them to win the Cup, and we block NYR from gutting their team, and so they win it as well.

The Flyers did get to the semis once the finals once with Lindros (not counting 2000 because they won most of the games they did with 88 out injured), but to not win when the other two teams involved did is pretty bitter tasting.

- copelal


They still win the cup in my opinion. The return from NYR was Sergei Nemchinov, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, James Patrick, and John Vanbiesbrouck. Only Kovalev and Nemchinov were on the ‘94 cup team and Lindros was better than all of them combined.
BluehorseShoe64
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2018

Jun 20 @ 3:16 PM ET
If they’re getting a future #1D at 7 anything that’s been rumored would be a steal in the long run. I don’t understand the hesitation to trading TK, Farabee, Laughton, etc. these guys haven’t changed the direction of the Flyers so why are we treating them like they’re some sacred piece to a future cup run?
- Schmojo


Agree with you. All I meant is I'm not enamored with getting Chychrun or Pinto in return. Chychrun is a really good D man, but is injury prone. Although his contract is affordable in 24-25, he will be in the last year of it and would be looking for more cash and term in his next deal. It really gives me pause to be entertaining paying 5 or 6 to yet another injury prone defenseman. And Pinto has not set the world on fire. He's been sent down, suspended and his deal expires soon too. These options are just too expensive for what we'd be getting. I should have qualified my comment as "there isn't anything I like from Ottawa's roster".
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 20 @ 3:18 PM ET
Understands what our fans want and need
Understands this organization


This organization is absolutely incompetent. I want out. Need to turn off the give a poop I have within. I need to figure out how

- Just5


Focus on enjoying the Phillies for now and hopefully the Eagles are good again and that holds us through February. Only thing I can suggest. If you lack hockey, get acces to college hockey and just watch the games without rooting interest. I’ve been to the Frozen Four a couple times and it’s a lot of fun.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:19 PM ET
They still win the cup in my opinion. The return from NYR was Sergei Nemchinov, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, James Patrick, and John Vanbiesbrouck. Only Kovalev and Nemchinov were on the ‘94 cup team and Lindros was better than all of them combined.
- Schmojo


Kovalev was fantastic in the 94 run. Amonte was traded for Noonan and Matteau. Weight was traded for Tikkanen. Those four guys accounted for 5GWG in that run.

As good as #88 was he wasn't gonna have that kind of impact on his own.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 20 @ 3:21 PM ET
Agree with you. All I meant is I'm not enamored with getting Chychrun or Pinto in return. Chychrun is a really good D man, but is injury prone. Although his contract is affordable in 24-25, he will be in the last year of it and would be looking for more cash and term in his next deal. It really gives me pause to be entertaining paying 5 or 6 to yet another injury prone defenseman. And Pinto has not set the world on fire. He's been sent down, suspended and his deal expires soon too. These options are just too expensive for what we'd be getting. I should have qualified my comment as "there isn't anything I like from Ottawa's roster".
- BluehorseShoe64


Ah ok, well yeah I’m with you then. Chychrun doesn’t excite me and actually worries me because it would indicate for sure the “rebuild” is all just PR, and they’re just doing another “retool” but calling it a rebuild. Pinto, I’m fine with acquiring but yes, it’s not exciting.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 20 @ 3:24 PM ET
Kovalev was fantastic in the 94 run. Amonte was traded for Noonan and Matteau. Weight was traded for Tikkanen. Those four guys accounted for 5GWG in that run.

As good as #88 was he wasn't gonna have that kind of impact on his own.

- Tomahawk


I think you forget how good he was right away. ‘94 would have been his second season for them. For the Flyers he put up 44G and 97P in just 65 games. They would have had time to fill those other spots between getting him and the ‘94 deadline.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:38 PM ET
After reading recent blog for Seattle about Laine, Konecny would be a great fit for Seattle.

Not sure what the return would be, definitely not #8, but would they part with 2025 1st or Wright, maybe Goyette or Firkus?

- Glak18

No, apparently, according to some folks here, TK has no value. You should look for often injured players with one leg and an eye patch for a fair return.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
I think you forget how good he was right away. ‘94 would have been his second season for them. For the Flyers he put up 44G and 97P in just 65 games. They would have had time to fill those other spots between getting him and the ‘94 deadline.
- Schmojo


Fill those other spots with who? Lesser players? Quality depth was one of the keys to their run. Trading 6-10 assets for one player leaves you with far fewer options.

And as the Flyers know you can't ever really depend on #88 to be healthy, happy or on his A-game when you need him the most.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 20 @ 3:47 PM ET
I was hopeful that Father Time would eventually cure the mental illness prevalent in this organization. I naively thought that once the alumni start keeling over another group would come in with a fresh perspective.

After reading that quote I am wrong. The infection has spread to the next and it is critical for the Flyers to extract the fetid tumor that is the alumni away from this team as fast as possible by any means possible.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 20 @ 3:48 PM ET
I was hopeful that Father Time would eventually cure the mental illness prevalent in this organization. I naively thought that once the alumni start keeling over another group would come in with a fresh perspective.

After reading that quote I am wrong. The infection has spread to the next and it is critical for the Flyers to extract the fetid tumor that is the alumni away from this team as fast as possible by any means possible.

- StepfordSam


It's a self-perpetuating stupidity.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
No, apparently, according to some folks here, TK has no value. You should look for often injured players with one leg and an eye patch for a fair return.
- coffee junkie


Then again TK is not a goaltender and the price I'm hearing for 30 year old Ullmark may put TK out of range for other teams.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 20 @ 4:01 PM ET
A lot of you, based on your trade proposals, are going to disappointed next week.

There is little to zero chance that the Sens are moving the 7th pick to the Flyers in any package that doesn’t include the 12th pick going to Ottawa.

If the Flyers are gonna make a deal with anyone to move up and/or grab another first, I would look to Buffalo who is desperate to make the playoffs in 2025. Packaging Farabee or Laughton with the Panthers pick might get them 11OA.

- BiggE

When did you become such an a-hole. I thought you were cool.

BTW: since when has a third line player helped a team move up 32-11= 21 spots?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 20 @ 4:25 PM ET
It's an 8-hour flight between the two cities. So basically half a day just for travel. Then they gotta load/unload all the equipment, bring it to and from the arena. There's no way they can do a faster turnaround.
- Tomahawk


It’s still annoying
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 20 @ 4:43 PM ET
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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 20 @ 4:44 PM ET
Agree with you. All I meant is I'm not enamored with getting Chychrun or Pinto in return. Chychrun is a really good D man, but is injury prone. Although his contract is affordable in 24-25, he will be in the last year of it and would be looking for more cash and term in his next deal. It really gives me pause to be entertaining paying 5 or 6 to yet another injury prone defenseman. And Pinto has not set the world on fire. He's been sent down, suspended and his deal expires soon too. These options are just too expensive for what we'd be getting. I should have qualified my comment as "there isn't anything I like from Ottawa's roster".
- BluehorseShoe64

Alex Formenton for Carter Hart....
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 20 @ 4:46 PM ET
I was hopeful that Father Time would eventually cure the mental illness prevalent in this organization. I naively thought that once the alumni start keeling over another group would come in with a fresh perspective.

After reading that quote I am wrong. The infection has spread to the next and it is critical for the Flyers to extract the fetid tumor that is the alumni away from this team as fast as possible by any means possible.

- StepfordSam

one of the worst run organizations in all of sports. that quote danny boy made is right on point for the flyers.
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