Hahaha most Canadians are not woke. Turn off Rebel Media and leave Alberta fot a bit.

... There are a lot of Middle Easterns now, though haha
- MattStrat

Nah you come down to where I live in Canmore/Banff it’s actually pretty brutal. I figured nfld would be better though. Just too Newfie over though haha.

Nah you come down to where I live in Canmore/Banff it’s actually pretty brutal. I figured nfld would be better though. Just too Newfie over though haha.
- 10inchTerror

I could see a lot of people in Banff being woke, for sure haha. I had no idea you were close to there. You ski or snowboard much? So f'n lucky to live close to Banff, man...well despite the wokeness hahaha

There's not much wokeness going on here. I find Newfoundland is like a different era in ways. A lot of old fashioned people around. Sure, you will get small groups trying to stop, or cancel this, or that, but it backfires. There was a very small group of people trying to get a local fashion designers store to take down their skinny manikins in their shop display window because of body shaming or some poop and it totally blew up in their face. This made a lot of people angry and most of the population and social medias turned it around on them. Sent them packing with their tail between their legs hahahah

Seriously though, in real life, like people you're legit friends and family with, neighbours with, how many of them are really "woke"? I know an awful lot of people and I think maybe one or two I would call woke.

Without a doubt, but there’s only so much they can do. My point is the fancy stats probably say Mcdavid was good in the third. Reality is he did crossovers up high at the blueline making soft drop passes to the point for most of it. He’s going to have to go to the hard areas if he’s ever going to win.
- Grinder47

He almost tied it 3 times in the third himself. Cats desperation and willingness to sacrifice was just a bit stronger. That deflection he had right in the slot...man he tries that another 10 times he probably buries that 7 or 8 times haha.

Cats deserved that cup, no doubt. I really like Bennett, Barkov, Tkachuk and more of their players.

He almost tied it 3 times in the third himself. Cats desperation and willingness to sacrifice was just a bit stronger. That deflection he had right in the slot...man he tries that another 10 times he probably buries that 7 or 8 times haha.

Cats deserved that cup, no doubt. I really like Bennett, Barkov, Tkachuk and more of their players.
- MattStrat

Coach really (frank)ed up the last 5 minutes for the Oil. They were spent by the time they pulled the goalie.

Coach really (frank)ed up the last 5 minutes for the Oil. They were spent by the time they pulled the goalie.
- Grinder47

Yup. They were out there too much and he timed it wrong.

Yup. They were out there too much and he timed it wrong.
- MattStrat

I really think Edmonton needs EK to put them over the hump.

Without a doubt, but there’s only so much they can do. My point is the fancy stats probably say Mcdavid was good in the third. Reality is he did crossovers up high at the blueline making soft drop passes to the point for most of it. He’s going to have to go to the hard areas if he’s ever going to win.
- Grinder47

The fancy stats say Barkov is a stud in shutting McDavid down. But you still think looking at stats means there’s an agenda or narrative.

Nah you come down to where I live in Canmore/Banff it’s actually pretty brutal. I figured nfld would be better though. Just too Newfie over though haha.
- 10inchTerror

That's a really nice area. The first time I ever took my older son on the ice was a frozen Lake Louise when he was very little.

I really think Edmonton needs EK to put them over the hump.
- Grinder47

hahah that's pure fantasy for you. They cant fit him in with McDavid, Dries and Bouchard all up for extensions in the next 2 years.

The fancy stats say Barkov is a stud in shutting McDavid down. But you still think looking at stats means there’s an agenda or narrative.
- Feds91Stammer

I guess I’d just never think to look at stats to see if Barkov is a stud. I look up blocked shots and a players PIM’s in the minors from time to time.

hahah that's pure fantasy for you. They cant fit him in with McDavid, Dries and Bouchard all up for extensions in the next 2 years.
- MattStrat

Just a hunch, but I could see one of Draisaitl or McDavid leaving. Can you build a winner with two or three players eating 35+% of the cap?

Man... That Nurse contract is ugly. Players should scramble to hire his agent.

Just a hunch, but I could see one of Draisaitl or McDavid leaving. Can you build a winner with two or three players eating 35+% of the cap?

Man... That Nurse contract is ugly. Players should scramble to hire his agent.
- madmike71

Well...if you ask this question about the Leafs the past 5 years the answer will most likely be no....if you ask this question about the Penguins the past 15 years the answer would be yes hahaha

EDIT: and yeah, that Nurse contract is horrible hahaha

Well...if you ask this question about the Leafs the past 5 years the answer will most likely be no....if you ask this question about the Penguins the past 15 years the answer would be yes hahaha

EDIT: and yeah, that Nurse contract is horrible hahaha
- MattStrat

The Pens didn't win those last two cups until Sid and Geno's contracts became great deals as the cap went up. Yeah... The Iggy year could have been a winner, but most of those teams didn't have enough depth. Lots of factors involved, but the Pens struggled with depth after the 09 cup. Plus, Sid got under the wire with a cap circumvention deal.

IDK....

The Pens didn't win those last two cups until Sid and Geno's contracts became great deals as the cap went up. Yeah... The Iggy year could have been a winner, but most of those teams didn't have enough depth. Lots of factors involved, but the Pens struggled with depth after the 09 cup. Plus, Sid got under the wire with a cap circumvention deal.

IDK....
- madmike71

In 2015/2016 the salary cap was 71.4 mill....Sid (8.7), Geno (9.5) and Tanger (7.5) had a combined cap hit of 25.7 which would have been 35% of their cap. In 2016/2017 the max cap was 73 mill so they took up just shy of that...and one of them didn't play a single playoff game haha

In 2015/2016 the salary cap was 71.4 mill....Sid (8.7), Geno (9.5) and Tanger (7.5) had a combined cap hit of 25.7 which would have been 35% of their cap. In 2016/2017 the max cap was 73 mill so they took up just shy of that...and one of them didn't play a single playoff game haha
- MattStrat

No doubt that McDavid + Drai + a true number 1 D at 35% of the cap could win the Cup. The Oilers problem is Nurse is not worth nearly his cap hit -- and yet they still got within a game of it.

In 2015/2016 the salary cap was 71.4 mill....Sid (8.7), Geno (9.5) and Tanger (7.5) had a combined cap hit of 25.7 which would have been 35% of their cap. In 2016/2017 the max cap was 73 mill so they took up just shy of that...and one of them didn't play a single playoff game haha
- MattStrat

I knew you were going to do the math...ha ha. I stand corrected.

The silly Toronto media voting block at it again!
- Victoro311

Booz Allen rang the bell today. Did you do the honors? Haha.

Well...if you ask this question about the Leafs the past 5 years the answer will most likely be no....if you ask this question about the Penguins the past 15 years the answer would be yes hahaha

EDIT: and yeah, that Nurse contract is horrible hahaha
- MattStrat

The problem with the Leafs comparison is that while Matthews is on that McDavid/Draisaitl level, Marner definitely is not and neither is Nylander. I think Tavares and Nurse are a wash in terms of bad contracts.

I think Draiaitl is long gone in free agency. He will be able to get north of $13M in a lot more desirable locations/teams.

No doubt that McDavid + Drai + a true number 1 D at 35% of the cap could win the Cup. The Oilers problem is Nurse is not worth nearly his cap hit -- and yet they still got within a game of it.
- MickV

Yeah its crazy and I agree. I think Bouchard is a borderline #1 the way he performed this past season and playoffs....problem is that kinda play has him due for a big raise over his 3.9 mill cap hit next season. I dont see him having a really bad season, next season, that totally hinders his new contract next year haha. Nurse is a second pairing guy getting number 1 money and like you said, so close despite it...just two goals away from a cup.

The problem with the Leafs comparison is that while Matthews is on that McDavid/Draisaitl level, Marner definitely is not and neither is Nylander. I think Tavares and Nurse are a wash in terms of bad contracts.

I think Draiaitl is long gone in free agency. He will be able to get north of $13M in a lot more desirable locations/teams.
- MacPatty

I agree with what you said in first paragraph. However, there wasn't really a comparison as I said if you ask about the Leafs the answer would most likely be no in relation to can you win a cup with 3 players making 35% or more of the cap.

I knew you were going to do the math...ha ha. I stand corrected.
- madmike71

hahaha not only that though but the years after 2009 the Pens were pretty much always considered a top contender expect the year they didnt have both Sid and Geno in 2011. Despite that they went up 3-1 on the Bolts but lost in 7...the Bolts then went to 7 games with the Bruins in the ECF with the Bruins taking it and then taking the cup. Then throw in a couple of those seasons with MAF having complete mental breakdowns.

The problem with the Leafs comparison is that while Matthews is on that McDavid/Draisaitl level, Marner definitely is not and neither is Nylander. I think Tavares and Nurse are a wash in terms of bad contracts.

I think Draiaitl is long gone in free agency. He will be able to get north of $13M in a lot more desirable locations/teams.
- MacPatty

If they can't sign him, they have to trade him now. They would get max value this summer.

That Ullmark deal was pretty interesting to see. When I first heard it I thought it was a steal for Ottawa but its really going to hinge on them re-signing him to a reasonable extension.

A late first, a bad contract (less $1M retained) & a bottom 6 player for a top goalie is good value.

For Boston, I'd bet they have another deal lined up they wanted to use that 1st for. The buyout for Korpisalo isn't all that bad... I think they will see if they can get his game back on track this year, but they could just end up buying him out right away.

For anyone wanting to trade Jarry (Im kind of in that boat), this leaves one less destination. Not even sure who is really left...

Toronto is going to do something. Could be a spot for Jarry but I think they should be going all in for Saros if he is available.

Buffallo has Luukkonen who had a really good season, not sure if Jarry is a guy they would want unless they are getting rid of a salary along the way.

Does Detroit want a bridge to Cossa? No idea.

Does San Jose want to tank for one more top pick or do they want to start building a team?

Mrazek was actually pretty decent for Chicago this year, but they might want to have a tandem if they are going to try to build something with Bedard.

If they can't sign him, they have to trade him now. They would get max value this summer.
- madmike71

That would be really hard to do after being one win away from the Cup. I'd be surprised, I'd expect them to load up as best they can next year. I'm not saying you might not be right, I just don't see it happening.

If they can't sign him, they have to trade him now. They would get max value this summer.
- madmike71

Yeah, they would. I think it is extra hard to pull something like that off coming out of a Stanley Cup run. They are going to do everything they can to sign him but we will see what happens.

If they are going to keep him they HAVE to trade Nurse. And while Nurse is never going to be worth the +$9M per year, I think he can still be a solid defenceman if he is playing on a team that plays a bit more of a 2 way game.

Campbell also needs to either get traded or bought out. He had a good year in the AHL but not sure he is going to pull it all back together.