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Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 25 @ 10:25 AM ET
like you said? ok
- hello it's me 2050

Yeah a million times. I rage everytime I see or hear we don’t want to be like Buffalo tanking loook at where it got them etc etc etc. I’ve said a million times glasses screwed Buffalo by trading high picks to try to rush rebuild once they got eichel trading for nhl players instead of proper build through draft around him. Fast forward to now with mm. Does db follow that path or add young talent through draft next 2 seasons? We shall find out shortly.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
[quote=roenick97]
People are laughing at you because you think McDavid no showed in game 7. Florida is the best defensive teams in the league, you’re not going to have your way all night. He made a great effort without getting a point in game 7 did you watch the game? The Conn smythe is the accumulation of the playoffs it’s not just the last round. Now, Go get the Franking cheese from the cooler and get ready for the lunch rush corky.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:30 AM ET
Yeah a million times. I rage everytime I see or hear we don’t want to be like Buffalo tanking loook at where it got them etc etc etc. I’ve said a million times glasses screwed Buffalo by trading high picks to try to rush rebuild once they got eichel trading for nhl players instead of proper build through draft around him. Fast forward to now with mm. Does db follow that path or add young talent through draft next 2 seasons? We shall find out shortly.
- Stayin alive

Plus the Flyers impatient way appears to be no better. Tanking actually has a higher probability....
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
[quote=ClaudeFather]
He didn’t get points in 3 of 7 games in the final and still won the Conn Smyth. Game 7 in a Stanley cup final isn’t your regular everyday game. If you want to be as great as Gretzky, you gotta be that guy. McDavid lost an edge skating twice and the Florida defense had a few easy poke checks on him, making him look average. Greatness overcomes. Greatness wins.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
Yeah a million times. I rage everytime I see or hear we don’t want to be like Buffalo tanking loook at where it got them etc etc etc. I’ve said a million times glasses screwed Buffalo by trading high picks to try to rush rebuild once they got eichel trading for nhl players instead of proper build through draft around him. Fast forward to now with mm. Does db follow that path or add young talent through draft next 2 seasons? We shall find out shortly.
- Stayin alive

i have beat that drum 2 million times
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:33 AM ET
[quote=ClaudeFather]
He played well in the 3rd. I think Forsling bumped him off the puck late in the slot to save the tying goal.

He didn’t do much of anything in the first and second. But the dude singlehandedly willed that Oilers team to the Game 7 of the Cup Finals. And did it while Draisaitl was struggling (hurt).
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 25 @ 10:37 AM ET
Michkov's SKA contract has been officially terminated.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:39 AM ET
The Flyers traded more assets for Risto than the Panthers traded for Reinhart, and he just scored the Cup winning goal.

https://www.capfriendly.c...ades/players/sam-reinhart

- Feanor


Damn. All Reinhart has done is been a pt a game player since the trade with 57 goals this year. He would be the best player on the Flyers. Flyers got the 6'4" guy who likes to go out of position to hit somebody because that's what they look for.

It also goes to show you that better coaching and better situations can lead to good things.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 25 @ 10:40 AM ET
Plus the Flyers impatient way appears to be no better. Tanking actually has a higher probability....
- mr4tno

For me it’s the narratives like “need top end talent” used as punchlines without the willingness to do what EVERYONE sees and knows how to go about it that drives me insane. To the point of a level of apathy I never thought I’d have for them. To the point where I decided if they resign tk I’m out on them and never to return
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:43 AM ET
For me it’s the narratives like “need top end talent” used as punchlines without the willingness to do what EVERYONE sees and knows how to go about it that drives me insane. To the point of a level of apathy I never thought I’d have for them. To the point where I decided if they resign tk I’m out on them and never to return
- Stayin alive



Be ready to leave then... 90% chance they commit to a long term deal w TK. I hope not but I would be shocked if DB moves him...
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:47 AM ET
Looks like SKA just formally announced MMs departure to the flyers. I imagine the flyers will have something formal soon.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
Sounds to me from that tweet the dumb dumb Flyers are slowly realizing TK really is demanding 10/year.

AI GM bot Danny Briere may have to put some human thought into a counter offer and backup plan. Doubt there is the testicular fortitude to do what should be done, however.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
[quote=roenick97]
breast or thigh?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
Sounds to me from that tweet the dumb dumb Flyers are slowly realizing TK really is demanding 10/year.

AI GM bot Danny Briere may have to put some human thought into a counter offer and backup plan. Doubt there is the testicular fortitude to do what should be done, however.

- StepfordSam

what tweet?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
[quote=Flyers1218]
Maybe he’ll listen to you because he doesn’t seem to get it…
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
what tweet?
- hello it's me 2050


https://x.com/jceezz/stat...&t=w6q3WrhKj3ub3jVkrpV62g
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
Be ready to leave then... 90% chance they commit to a long term deal w TK. I hope not but I would be shocked if DB moves him...
- Flyfly

Oh I am. I would’ve been gone had they not drafted mm. It bought them time. I just can’t deal with another coots type deal for another decade. Simply not worth it
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 25 @ 11:14 AM ET
Oh I am. I would’ve been gone had they not drafted mm. It bought them time. I just can’t deal with another coots type deal for another decade. Simply not worth it
- Stayin alive


Can't argue that... I am a fan of TK but a long term deal at at high AAV is not what this team should be handing out at the moment. Trade him and get assets for the future or make a hockey trade.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 25 @ 11:17 AM ET
Mittlestadt re signs in COL for 3 years. Center market about to get some clarity. Think Lindholm ends up in BOS. RFA center market could make some interesting trades.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 25 @ 11:20 AM ET
Can't argue that... I am a fan of TK but a long term deal at at high AAV is not what this team should be handing out at the moment. Trade him and get assets for the future or make a hockey trade.
- Flyfly

Yep. Agree 100%. Narrative can’t fall in love with these players. lol. We shall see
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jun 25 @ 11:21 AM ET
Yep. Agree 100%. Narrative can’t fall in love with these players. lol. We shall see
- Stayin alive


We know the Flyers love their own players! More than most other teams do...
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 25 @ 12:40 PM ET
You are a stooge.

-Any deal with Konecny will be 8 years. This is his last big pay day.
-Yes they could be better, but what does that do? They are not a legit playoff or cup contender.
-Yes that cap goes up. That doesn't mean i need to give out bad contracts. Michkov is not going to get a bridge deal after his ELC. Why tie up money in an ageing vet who I don't think is going to be much better than he is. Save the money and use it on players I think will be part of the future.

- J35Bacher

TK is part of the future, you need good veteran players on your team, you can’t have a team of 21 year old and expect to win.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 25 @ 12:41 PM ET
Can't argue that... I am a fan of TK but a long term deal at at high AAV is not what this team should be handing out at the moment. Trade him and get assets for the future or make a hockey trade.
- Flyfly

TKs trade value is not going to be high given he needs to be extended, the Flyers will not get enough value back.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:44 PM ET
TK is part of the future, you need good veteran players on your team, you can’t have a team of 21 year old and expect to win.
- jd250


There are plenty of other veterans. Are you seriously attempting to imply that if they trade Konecny, it would then be a team of 21 year olds? That's a lack of common sense on your part. Not to mention not understanding that at this point in time. The Flyers should not be expecting to win.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:45 PM ET
TKs trade value is not going to be high given he needs to be extended, the Flyers will not get enough value back.
- jd250


You're incorrect about that. Teams trading for him at this point in time. Likely would not be looking at him as a rental and would have full awareness that he needs a new contract. It was just recently when you were posting that Utah might have interest.
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