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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 25 @ 12:46 PM ET
I mentioned that other day that the league needs to step in and fine players that refuse to sign with the team that drafted them. In the latest Snow the goalie Bundy just stated the same thing. I don’t want the NHL to become the NBA with players only wanting to play for about 8 teams and dictating where they want to play. Players should at least fulfill their ELC and then after that they can go where they want, otherwise they should be heavily fined. I would not be surprised if the GMs discuss this matter in this season, and BTW, Michkov essentially did the same thing to Arizona in the draft last year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
I mentioned that other day that the league needs to step in and fine players that refuse to sign with the team that drafted them. In the latest Snow the goalie Bundy just stated the same thing. I don’t want the NHL to become the NBA with players only wanting to play for about 8 teams and dictating where they want to play. Players should at least fulfill their ELC and then after that they can go where they want, otherwise they should be heavily fined. I would not be surprised if the GMs discuss this matter in this season, and BTW, Michkov essentially did the same thing to Arizona in the draft last year.
- jd250


Bundy is being stupid. Just as you were with that suggestion. There is no basis to be able to do that. The league can't in any way force a player to sign a contract.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
There are plenty of other veterans. Are you seriously attempting to imply that if they trade Konecny, it would then be a team of 21 year olds? That's a lack of common sense on your part. Not to mention not understanding that at this point in time. The Flyers should not be expecting to win.
- MJL

TK is one of the only legitimate good players the Flyers have right now. And there is no guarantee what the Flyers will get in return for a TK in a trade. The goal here is to build a legitimate contender and clearly the Flyers currently are not that, but trading one of the only few good players they have is not a step in the right direction. There are other options to clear cap space, for example trading Couts. I think when a team has a player like TK, they need to keep him and put good players around him. That is how you build a contender.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Bundy is being stupid. Just as you were with that suggestion. There is no basis to be able to do that. The league can't in any way force a player to sign a contract.
- MJL

Of course they can, the league can do whatever it wants. If they want to they change policy and fine players, and if the players don’t like it they can lump it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
TK is one of the only legitimate good players the Flyers have right now. And there is no guarantee what the Flyers will get in return for a TK in a trade. The goal here is to build a legitimate contender and clearly the Flyers currently are not that, but trading one of the only few good players they have is not a step in the right direction. There are other options to clear cap space, for example trading Couts. I think when a team has a player like TK, they need to keep him and put good players around him. That is how you build a contender.
- jd250


You said previously that you have thought things out. Is this an indication of that? You state the Flyers are not a contender and that Konecny is one of the only legitimate good players that they have now. Somehow in your mind, that points to trading Konecny not being a step in the right direction? You should re-read what you posted here a few times and then truly think about it. What you posted here is not something that you would need any hockey knowledge to decipher. Just common sense, which is completely absent from your post. Trading Konecny is not just about clearing cap space. It's about trying to acquire future elite talent. You do that as a team in the Flyers position, with very little top flight talent and zero elite players as of now, by trading the best veteran asset that you have.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:03 PM ET
Of course they can, the league can do whatever it wants. If they want to they change policy and fine players, and if the players don’t like it they can lump it.
- jd250


LOL, no of course they can't. A drafted player is not under contract, not an "employee" of the league until he signs a contract. On what legal basis can they fine a player if he says he doesn't want to play for a team that drafted him? Is this another situation that you've thought out?
Briere
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
Of course they can, the league can do whatever it wants. If they want to they change policy and fine players, and if the players don’t like it they can lump it.
- jd250


no they can't. a draftee has zero obligation to sign a contract. they could just as easily decide to continue their education and skip the NHL. and go to graduate school, or medical school, or go be a bartender....
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 25 @ 2:20 PM ET
first eichel then reinhart, all one can do is laugh at buffalo
- hello it's me 2050

Just wait until Michkov passes the cup to Ristolainen
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
TK is one of the only legitimate good players the Flyers have right now. And there is no guarantee what the Flyers will get in return for a TK in a trade. The goal here is to build a legitimate contender and clearly the Flyers currently are not that, but trading one of the only few good players they have is not a step in the right direction. There are other options to clear cap space, for example trading Couts. I think when a team has a player like TK, they need to keep him and put good players around him. That is how you build a contender.
- jd250


So tk is the only good player…
You sign him ….
He’s worth big extension because he’s so good….


Yet you get very little in trade for him?


K makes sense… if he’s so good to sign to big deal and build around then lots of team would want him and trade package would be great but you say trade value wouldn’t bring much back. You are a moron sometimes
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 25 @ 5:51 PM ET
You said previously that you have thought things out. Is this an indication of that? You state the Flyers are not a contender and that Konecny is one of the only legitimate good players that they have now. Somehow in your mind, that points to trading Konecny not being a step in the right direction? You should re-read what you posted here a few times and then truly think about it. What you posted here is not something that you would need any hockey knowledge to decipher. Just common sense, which is completely absent from your post. Trading Konecny is not just about clearing cap space. It's about trying to acquire future elite talent. You do that as a team in the Flyers position, with very little top flight talent and zero elite players as of now, by trading the best veteran asset that you have.
- MJL

This is where you are being idiotic, at best the Flyers will get and don’t draft picks and maybe a mid level prospect. And teams that would want TK are teams ready to contend which means they will not have high picks. It is you that has not thought it through. If a team has a player that is future elite talent why on earth would they trade him to the Flyers? TK is an all star player and top 6 forward. He is a building block, unless the Flyers were planning on cleaning house and starting over which clearly you seem to want.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 8:31 PM ET
This is where you are being idiotic, at best the Flyers will get and don’t draft picks and maybe a mid level prospect. And teams that would want TK are teams ready to contend which means they will not have high picks. It is you that has not thought it through. If a team has a player that is future elite talent why on earth would they trade him to the Flyers? TK is an all star player and top 6 forward. He is a building block, unless the Flyers were planning on cleaning house and starting over which clearly you seem to want.
- jd250


Hysterical. Your track record of accurately assessing trade value is abysmal, along with everything else. You also can't read. I did not state that the a team would trade a future elite player to the Flyers for Konecny. You also can't use common sense to understand that by trading a player like Konecny, along with some others would mean the team would finish lower in the standings and then get a higher draft pick. You have tunnel vision and a lack of clarity in seeing the future. Konecny is not a building block. He will be 28 going on 29 when a new deal kicks. You lack both knowledge of the game and common sense,
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