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fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Anyone think Draisaitl's price took a hit in the finals or was he injured?
- rpeters01


He looked like he couldn't move laterally or accelerate so I would suspect injury with the way he fell off and the lack of explosion and cutting ability.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
How about #18 for #15 (2022) plus a developing defensiveman who has played in the NHL, BUT CAN BE SHUTTLE UP & DOWN?
- wiz1901


Done
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
From last blog.
He's ok. Was also a number 2 OA pick in his draft year. 🤔
- HawkintheD

Barkov is the type of player that you win with, good size, can skate, good hands, and 200’ game, those my friend are hard to find. The Hawks had Toews and Bolland up the middle, and Bolland played bigger than his actual size. The Hawks need a good all around big center, which in this draft it’s Lindstrom, but it really depends on his back and medical report. Many are saying that it’s either Demidov and Lesgunov, but if Lindstrom’s health checks out, he’ll be in the discussions as well.
- Angotti

- Angotti


Which is a good point and a type of player they don't have. I think swinging on the Russian or Lindstrom vs taking the safe pick which could easily turn into Jack Johnson - is the way to go.

Though my brother made a great point the other day "GM's don't get fired for making the safe bet and it not working out since it was the 'right decision' they get fired for taking a swing and missing".
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
Anyone think Draisaitl's price took a hit in the finals or was he injured?
- rpeters01


He 100% looked like he was playing injured in the whole series, he didn't seem to have good movement twisting his body and he wasn't really able to move with power to protect the puck like we've seen in the past.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:40 PM ET
From last blog.
He's ok. Was also a number 2 OA pick in his draft year. 🤔
- HawkintheD

Barkov is the type of player that you win with, good size, can skate, good hands, and 200’ game, those my friend are hard to find. The Hawks had Toews and Bolland up the middle, and Bolland played bigger than his actual size. The Hawks need a good all around big center, which in this draft it’s Lindstrom, but it really depends on his back and medical report. Many are saying that it’s either Demidov and Lesgunov, but if Lindstrom’s health checks out, he’ll be in the discussions as well.
- Angotti

- Angotti


It also took Barkov 3-4 seasons to finally develop.
I know Reichel isn't the same type of player,but to write him off this early because of a bad 1st season is kind of ridiculous.
I wouldn't mind trading him if you are getting some vslue back,but I think he could actually surprise a lot of people next season. Him putting up 50-60pts next season wouldn't surprise me.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:14 PM ET
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Taylor Raddysh, a pending RFA, is making it clear he really wants to stay in Chicago and try to rediscover his 2022-23 form. Blackhawks haven't tipped their hand on him yet.

While he had a dreadful offensive season, he did join the PK and was one of the better PK forwards we had IMO. Wouldn't be surprising to see him go or see him stay, but probably not a high price tag to keep him around.
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 2:17 PM ET
Patrick Kane rumored to be leaning towards the Rangers. Man he’d look good in the indianhead again til he retires. Imagine a powerplay with him and Bedard.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Ben Pope
@BenPopeCST
Taylor Raddysh, a pending RFA, is making it clear he really wants to stay in Chicago and try to rediscover his 2022-23 form. Blackhawks haven't tipped their hand on him yet.

While he had a dreadful offensive season, he did join the PK and was one of the better PK forwards we had IMO. Wouldn't be surprising to see him go or see him stay, but probably not a high price tag to keep him around.

- breadbag

Mark my words, KD will be asleep at the wheel and lose Raddysh who’ll go on to contribute his few goals and lack of compete for another team.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:29 PM ET
Hope you all are well....took a new job which has limited my time to check in here....


Great playoff season. Really enjoyed it. Again, just realize how much fun it is, and stressful, when your team is "in" it.

I think we all need to be cautious about expectations for the Hawks this offseason and next year. Not saying they'll be a dumpster fire, but anyone expecting them to spend huge money, etc.....not seeing it. Gradual steps upwards is the goal. Huge part of that is finding skill to skate with Bedard. Fully expect a pending UFA motivated Hall to somehow avoid injury and put up numbers.

To fatty's point.....18+Reichel for Zegras is a no brainer. Moving on from Reichel seems smart at this point as you are dangerously approaching the point he becomes an asset you want to get a decent return for, but has ZERO market at your ask. Just don't see the light going on for 27 and how many summers/years are we going to debate it? No problem keeping him, but he's FAR from untouchable if somebody calls and wants him or needs him added in to complete a deal.

Would love to see them move on from Jones. Doubt if happens unless they retain money. only way that makes sense is the return coming back.

I'd bet they trade or sign for a guy and sign him no more than 4 years and have to overpay. Guy who could get another sizeable deal with the lure of playing with 98 to pump up his numbers for his next deal.

If they trade Murphy this weekend......i may need a wellness check as i will be celebrating all weekend long. Go let captain america of the JV squad blow himself up for another team.....as #5 he could be attractive.
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 2:31 PM ET
Patrick Kane rumored to be leaning towards the Rangers. Man he’d look good in the indianhead again til he retires. Imagine a powerplay with him and Bedard.
- ObeseOprah



Unless Davidson was blowing smoke...he already ruled that out. Kane seems far too competitive still to want to be in a mentor role and putting up points. I think he'll back in Detroit feeding DeBrincat apples.

Curious to see if Toews announces he's done or hopes to get something done with Toronto or another playoff team being a bottom 6 player, who can kill penalties and contribute depth scoring.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 25 @ 2:34 PM ET
Done
- fattybeef

Sure. We would draft someone KD likes, a good talent much more likely at #15 than #18. Just try to keep Kaiser though. If it is Kaiser or DelMastro I am nit wanting to make the trade but might if I see this hockeybuzz board would, indeed, accept the exchange

I would rather even Allen or Crevier or Phillips
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:34 PM ET
No, but don't make them an offer that is insulting either. As a GM you still need to get deals done, and if you try and screw a GM on every deal you propose, you will very quickly have no one to deal with.
- LAHawk


But you can ask them what they want and say nah that's too expensive, they are not giving up the 18th pick unless it's to move up even more in the draft.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:42 PM ET
I think Davidson would move his prospects or picks for the right asset.

Like Zegras. If the Ducks wanted 18+ Reichel for Zegras you do that deal. Worst case scenario it's wildly entertaining to see him and Bedard score a bunch of goals even though they'll get scored on a lot. Best case the kid matures and you have a long term piece that you don't need to wait 5 years to develop.

Davidson seems to have a decent relationship with the boys in Tampa. Cirelli for Toronto's pick next year? Tampa is going to have to retool or rebuild in the next 2 or 3 years so starting to get some assets without hamstringing them may be a thing they'd be interested in. They need cap space.

I think there are a lot of options to get some solid hockey players from teams that are desperate.

If theyre going to pass on Marner and Guentzel then throwing between 16 and 20 million over two years at Marchessault would be a great move.

Guentzel for 5 years and 8-8.5 million per would be reasonable and not back breaking for what he brings.

Hypothetically going into next year with: Cirelli, DeBrusk OR TT (prefer DeBrusk but doesn't matter) and Marchassault OR Guentzel doesn't make them a playoff team but certainly less painful to watch.

- fattybeef


First of all Reichel just turned 22, i don't trade away a player I've been developing for 2 years and has promise,

The 18th pick is the potential for another hockey player

For it could be wildly entertaining? So in the end you might end up with zero NHL players because Zegras doesn't fit what you want to do. No thanks

Besides i always had this rule if i bought a stock and all my info said it'll go up in value, and the stock price went down? I wouldn't sell it i actually buy more. Reichel stock is down he doesn't get traded in my book.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
Unless Davidson was blowing smoke...he already ruled that out. Kane seems far too competitive still to want to be in a mentor role and putting up points. I think he'll back in Detroit feeding DeBrincat apples.

Curious to see if Toews announces he's done or hopes to get something done with Toronto or another playoff team being a bottom 6 player, who can kill penalties and contribute depth scoring.

- SteveRain

I think Toews is done but either way, I doubt he can still kill penalties.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Winnipeg doesn't have to do anything immediately, McGroarty still has 2 years of college left. If Cheveldayoff doesn't like any trade proposals, he can wait until next years draft to trade him. Of course that is a risk, but one I can see Cheveldayoff taking if all he gets is low ball offers.
- LAHawk


If all he gets is low ball offers is he really being low balled?
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 25 @ 2:49 PM ET
First of all Reichel just turned 22, i don't trade away a player I've been developing for 2 years and has promise,

The 18th pick is the potential for another hockey player

For it could be wildly entertaining? So in the end you might end up with zero NHL players because Zegras doesn't fit what you want to do. No thanks

Besides i always had this rule if i bought a stock and all my info said it'll go up in value, and the stock price went down? I wouldn't sell it i actually buy more. Reichel stock is down he doesn't get traded in my book.

- BetweenTheDots

KD made the statement when he took over he's tired of seeing other teams develop our players. Then he went and traded Kirby Dach but Dach had a much bigger contract coming than Reichel. I think 27 still has several more trips to Rockford if needed.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 2:50 PM ET
Hope you all are well....took a new job which has limited my time to check in here....


Great playoff season. Really enjoyed it. Again, just realize how much fun it is, and stressful, when your team is "in" it.

I think we all need to be cautious about expectations for the Hawks this offseason and next year. Not saying they'll be a dumpster fire, but anyone expecting them to spend huge money, etc.....not seeing it. Gradual steps upwards is the goal. Huge part of that is finding skill to skate with Bedard. Fully expect a pending UFA motivated Hall to somehow avoid injury and put up numbers.

To fatty's point.....18+Reichel for Zegras is a no brainer. Moving on from Reichel seems smart at this point as you are dangerously approaching the point he becomes an asset you want to get a decent return for, but has ZERO market at your ask. Just don't see the light going on for 27 and how many summers/years are we going to debate it? No problem keeping him, but he's FAR from untouchable if somebody calls and wants him or needs him added in to complete a deal.

Would love to see them move on from Jones. Doubt if happens unless they retain money. only way that makes sense is the return coming back.

I'd bet they trade or sign for a guy and sign him no more than 4 years and have to overpay. Guy who could get another sizeable deal with the lure of playing with 98 to pump up his numbers for his next deal.

If they trade Murphy this weekend......i may need a wellness check as i will be celebrating all weekend long. Go let captain america of the JV squad blow himself up for another team.....as #5 he could be attractive.

- SteveRain


Hey Steve, hope all is well and you’re enjoying the new job.

That series was allot of fun and most of us didn’t have to deal with heart palpitations watching it. There’s talk about draisitl being injured, I’m not so sure Tkachuk was close to being healthy. But of course nobody was without some injury but those two were way off their respective games.

I say no chance on Zegras, skilled yes, fast yes, but soft as a baby’s behind and worse he likes to start poop then hide behind teammates or refs where his mouth still goes 100 mph. And there’s no way that fits in with your sensibilities. Can you imagine that twerp playing against Florida? But someone, I think Dots, suggested acquiring if you can buy low, give him a season racking up regular season points then trading him high.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
If all he gets is low ball offers is he really being low balled?
- BetweenTheDots


one man's trash is another man's treasure
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jun 25 @ 3:00 PM ET
I think Toews is done but either way, I doubt he can still kill penalties.
- rpeters01

I’m afraid you’re right. The long Covid, chronic fatigue, and another year of aging do not help. Guy is a Hawks legend and sadly one of the few core guys who played solely for the Hawks.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 3:09 PM ET
Patrick Kane rumored to be leaning towards the Rangers. Man he’d look good in the indianhead again til he retires. Imagine a powerplay with him and Bedard.
- ObeseOprah

That would be great to see. KFC has apparently closed the door on the reunion.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 25 @ 3:10 PM ET
I don’t think that they’ll trade Jones, as they currently don’t have a RD to replace his 25 minutes of TOI, especially with Murphy and his injury history. I was hoping that they would sign DeMelo or Chatfield, but they both have resigned with their respective teams. KD will make a trade in the next three days, we’ll see who is all involved. Three days to go ladies and gentlemen.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 3:11 PM ET
Mark my words, KD will be asleep at the wheel and lose Raddysh who’ll go on to contribute his few goals and lack of compete for another team.
- paulr

Paulie needs a hug.... It's gonna be fine man
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 25 @ 3:14 PM ET
Sharks acquire Jake Walman and a second round pick for nothing.

Cap dump, what is Stevie Y. up to?

Sharks have been busy Dellandrea, Goodrow, now Wallman
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Jun 25 @ 3:16 PM ET
Mark my words, KD will be asleep at the wheel and lose Raddysh who’ll go on to contribute his few goals and lack of compete for another team.
- paulr

I’d sign Raddysh for another year, maybe he’ll put more pucks in the net and KD can move him at the TDL. It’s not like he’s currently blocking anybody.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:19 PM ET
Sharks acquire Jake Walman and a second round pick for nothing.

Cap dump, what is Stevie Y. up to?

Sharks have been busy Dellandrea, Goodrow, now Wallman

- LAHawk


Loading up for a UFA, Sam Reinhart, Stamkos or one of the higher end Free Agents?
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