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Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
Sabres should be able to do almost whatever they want. After the Skinner buyout they will have $30mil in cap space, all of the big ticket players locked up and all of their picks.
- mickel25

But but but all o hear on this site is we don’t want to be like Buffalo?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
Snooze fest so far.

When do they buy out Atkinson?
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 26 @ 1:35 PM ET
Snooze fest so far.

When do they buy out Atkinson?

- StepfordSam

They don’t… hopefully
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
But but but all o hear on this site is we don’t want to be like Buffalo?
- Stayin alive


Neither franchise is the gold standard that is for sure.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 26 @ 1:41 PM ET
They don’t… hopefully
- Stayin alive


I’m with you but I think they do.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jun 26 @ 1:43 PM ET
I’m with you but I think they do.
- StepfordSam


Who sits with MM coming over? Brink needs a spot as well.

So they either have to trade a couple of wings or trade and cut a wing.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jun 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
Neither franchise is the gold standard that is for sure.
- mickel25

Fuq you mean!!! That’s the gold and silver francises
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jun 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
It was a joke snowflake
- ClaudeFather




All I can say is your lucky your not standing in front of me calling someone a snowflake(6'5 245lbs)It would be like me calling you (yeah you know the word) and saying it was a joke.

I normally don't respond to this crap, I take people on a person by person basis and your just pure crap.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:51 PM ET
There’s a Russian that’s already 21 with a decent scouting report but he’s considered undersized at 6ft by today’s standards. Nabokov.

The few other reports I looked at all sound like long term projects with middling ceilings at best. I guess that’s most goalie prospects tho.

- hereticpride


Yeah size seems to be the #1 component scouts look at for goalies. The Grant Fuhrs and Arturs Irbes of the world are as dead as the dodo.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
People get away with too much in the states in my opinion. In Canada, there’s no forgiveness and you can’t get away with enough.
- roenick97


Well the bad people get away with to much. If your a normal person and do something that somebody gets all bent out of shape over they ruin your life.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:53 PM ET
They don’t… hopefully
- Stayin alive


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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 26 @ 1:59 PM ET
All I can say is your lucky your not standing in front of me calling someone a snowflake(6'5 245lbs)It would be like me calling you (yeah you know the word) and saying it was a joke.

I normally don't respond to this crap, I take people on a person by person basis and your just pure crap.

- Flyerloon

you're really big, you workout?
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 26 @ 2:12 PM ET
I have absolutely nothing to substantiate this but I sort of feel like if the Sens deal hasn’t gone down yet the Flyers must have different trades on the table depending on who is available when pick 7 comes up.

Would be a smart move on the Sens part to ask for more if a big name slides…

- hereticpride


I believe Friedman said they were close on a deal with Ottawa but that’s unlikely to happen now.

Have to imagine the deal might have involved the pick the Sens sent to Boston for Ullmark.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
All I can say is your lucky your not standing in front of me calling someone a snowflake(6'5 245lbs)It would be like me calling you (yeah you know the word) and saying it was a joke.

I normally don't respond to this crap, I take people on a person by person basis and your just pure crap.

- Flyerloon


If you are getting offended that someone gets called a snowflake and want to fight over it then you might just be a snowflake.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
The second Toronto trades Mitch Marner, not only will the Leafs get worse, Marner will get better. I’d run it back with Berube behind the bench.
- roenick97

Marner will not get better moving away from the talent he plays with on Toronto, that’s extremely foolish. Especially if he goes to a place like Utah.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Marner will not get better moving away from the talent he plays with on Toronto, that’s extremely foolish. Especially if he goes to a place like Utah.
- ClaudeFather


It’s not working out for Toronto as a team with the present configuration. If Marner saw an opportunity to go elsewhere and have a better chance to win and walk away with more money who’s to say that’s not a consideration. Not saying Utah is that place.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jun 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
It’s not working out for Toronto as a team with the present configuration. If Marner saw an opportunity to go elsewhere and have a better chance to win and walk away with more money who’s to say that’s not a consideration. Not saying Utah is that place.
- bird_dog_pa


What high contender can afford to give him a 8 year high salary contract.
Flyerloon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 12.06.2021

Jun 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
If you are getting offended that someone gets called a snowflake and want to fight over it then you might just be a snowflake.
- bird_dog_pa


Nah just dont like raceist shiit being thrown around like its nothing.Don't want to fight anyone but talking shiit has its limits on a board when its that topic.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
It’s not working out for Toronto as a team with the present configuration. If Marner saw an opportunity to go elsewhere and have a better chance to win and walk away with more money who’s to say that’s not a consideration. Not saying Utah is that place.
- bird_dog_pa

I strictly noted Marner getting better, it’s completely false. As far as the teams involved, you’d need to see the outcome of the trade and subsequent moves to determine if they got better.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:30 PM ET
I believe Friedman said they were close on a deal with Ottawa but that’s unlikely to happen now.

Have to imagine the deal might have involved the pick the Sens sent to Boston for Ullmark.

- Schmojo

Interesting. I wonder if one our goalies was involved. For a 1st it seems unlikely.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
The second Toronto trades Mitch Marner, not only will the Leafs get worse, Marner will get better. I’d run it back with Berube behind the bench.
- roenick97

It depends. Leafs are definitely missing something to get them over the hump. They have Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Taveras so if they’re smart about it they can afford to move one of them to address other needs.

That ownership and fanbase seem at their wits end otherwise I’d say maybe they give it another year but I expect them to do something substantial after that exit.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 26 @ 3:09 PM ET
Interesting. I wonder if one our goalies was involved. For a 1st it seems unlikely.
- hereticpride


I don’t think that was the case. But maybe it was in a deal including Laughton. It sounded like a larger deal as several outlets noted it involved a defenseman and 1 suggested it wasn’t who everyone thought (Chychrun).
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
if Ekblad goes on the market will the flyers make a play for him.......
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jun 26 @ 3:21 PM ET
if Ekblad goes on the market will the flyers make a play for him.......
- hello it's me 2050

Flyers salary cap situation and all that dead 💀cap makes adventures deals hard.
Schmojo
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.14.2023

Jun 26 @ 3:24 PM ET
What high contender can afford to give him a 8 year high salary contract.
- WhiskeyMan


Among playoff teams, Vancouver could fit a big contract for him. The problem becomes what they’re trading to get him.

Marner, if moved will have to go to a team that’s likely in the bottom half of the league currently. I think a team like Seattle might make sense. Exchange some of their depth for an elite forward in Marner to play alongside Beniers. Toronto is unlikely to get another player of exact value for Marner but I think that’s ok if they acquire a few pieces that improve their middle 6 and defense. Some quality depth would help ease the burden of the remaining big 3 in Toronto.
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