That's not proof. One non-referenced mention. It's not supported by any real citation.

Any other sources for that?
How about some of your "inside sources" like your barber's sister's cousin?
- Nasty_Duck

Huh ..that's a pretty ridiculous standard. I think if EF or CJ say something its likely something. And he didn't qualify it or say " I heard " he said "They were even willing to go as high as $91-million to sign No. 91, which is $2-million more per season on a seven-year deal than he ended up getting from the Toronto Maple Leafs."

That's about as unequivocal as you'll hear these guys report.

Marner,Matthews are a mess. Matthews is a conceited Yankee who is not in it for the team. Getting to 70 was more important than winning in the playoffs! So compare to McDavid ….. Matthews is worth about 60%. Marner is worth about 45%. Reality is McDavid is a Canadian who wants to win. Matthews is an American who wants to take the Leafs to the cleaners.

Not if the Leafs tell him he's not welcome back next year.

He's better off getting a new start somewhere else a year early.
- Rare_Jewel

doesn't matter one eyeota
and a team is going to treat a player like that, good luck getting any other players to come to Toronto unless they are way overpaid.
this is not the '60 anymore

There's no citation.

They are all using the same "rumor"...

The rumor: John Tavares reached out to the Islanders on Sunday morning to inform them of his decision to move on from the franchise. The Isles reportedly made Tavares an offer of $88 million over eight years and are believed to have increased it at the minute, according to The Fourth Period. But the other teams involved in the sweepstakes are said to have gone even higher, with the Sharks offering $91 million across seven years — a whopping $13 million AAV that would make Tavares the highest-paid player in the NHL.
- Nasty_Duck

You should just admit that you were wrong bud. Better than making an ass of yourself.

Here's my unwanted 2 cents; Treliving should be trying to trade John Tavares and re-signing little Mitch Marner. Yes I know he has a NMC. Nobody needs an 11 million dollar second line center. Is Tavares still a good player even though he's 34 in September, clearly yes he is, but there's five or six million you can use on improving your poopty goaltending and defense.
- DraftandDestroy

You could move JT (if he agreed) and retain 3m for the year.
That still leaves them 8m to replace JT and get another forward or D.

But i dont see JT waiving or being dealt.

Also, where was this water gun when i was kid?

https://x.com/Rainmaker19...7Y_Sfw-1J4sHRP3OG50A&s=19

doesn't matter one eyeota
and a team is going to threat a player like that, good luck getting any other players to come to Toronto unless they are way overpaid.
this is not the '60 anymore
- dmnted

And avoid future idiot UFA mistakes? Gladly.

Really doubt any UFA looks at the Tavares situation and gets scared that they'll be given the captaincy, overpaid for 6 years and then be asked to waive a NMC in the 7th year regardless.

The Leafs have treated Tavares exceptionally well that if they did ask him to waive his NMC absolutely no future player would think badly of the team because of it.

IF a few of us tell you you are not welcome to come back here after say 340 pm today under any alt will you take this username, the AA, Tanooki and whatever other alts you have and go start somewhere else new and not come back?

If so please consider this me telling you to do just that.

Does anyone second this motion?

- Cush29

This is an unholy_goalie alt, which is a completely different defective than the AA series.

Can't wait until the mods get sick of this account poopting all over the place/everyone every day too and (frank) it off with a 20 year ban like the rest. 🤮

CJ says Tanev and Roy are Leafs top 2 D targets.

In a perfect world they get them both but a perfect world is tough to get.

You could move JT (if he agreed) and retain 3m for the year.
That still leaves them 8m to replace JT and get another forward or D.

But i dont see JT waiving or being dealt.

Also, where was this water gun when i was kid?

https://x.com/Rainmaker19...7Y_Sfw-1J4sHRP3OG50A&s=19
- Fakepartofme

If he agreed, you could retain 2 AAV, send him to a team like Anaheim, who retains 4.5 AAV to reach the floor and then his final team gets him for 4.5 AAV. That means contenders could afford him and he'd be more likely to accept the trade.

Then they'd have 9 AAV to sign a 2C and a top-4 RHD.

That's fine, he can decide where he lands with a 3rd team eating half the salary to reach the cap floor as a pit stop in between.

The more important part is getting him off the team.
- Rare_Jewel

Look at what Detroit paid to move Walman.
Leafs don't have that draft capital to do that unless you say good by to the 2024 1st round pick.

and Jarnkrok says I not moving unless it to my prefered destination

Look at what Detroit paid to move Walman.
Leafs don't have that draft capital to do that unless you say good by tot he 2024 1st round pick.
- dmnted

There are half a dozen teams that are well below the cap floor right now. Adding a contract retention with no real dollars being paid out wouldn't cost nearly as much as you think it would.

Walman makes 3.4 AAV (with 2 years left) and cost a 2nd to trade. If the Leafs find a team like Anaheim (for only 1 year) to retain (3-4.5 AAV) for a 2nd and a prospect, it'd be worth it.

CJ says Tanev and Roy are Leafs top 2 D targets.

In a perfect world they get them both but a perfect world is tough to get.
- Santo_44

Both bad targets. Better off with Pesce.

Yeah, I get it.

But I'm pretty sure those days are going away, and Bruins will start a bit of a decline.

I heard "rumors" DeBrusk is looking for 6-6.5m and Swayman will be going from his elc to 7 or 8m / year.

Happy?



- Nasty_Duck

Yes!

Also Swayman seems like the real deal and locked in the Bruins are set for 5+ years. DeBrusk is a mid guy, if he's looking for 6+ bail.

[quote=Rare_Jewel]Marner is a multiple time Selke candidate and among the best two-way forwards the Leafs have (only one of the stars that plays the PK).


Please list these multiple years Marner was a Selke candidate.

I mean since you have said he is a multiple time candidate and sticking to facts is clearly super important to you.

Here I'll even make it easy for you:

https://records.nhl.com/a...hies/frank-j-selke-trophy

I also hope you have never said he's a 100 point player since we know that's also not true.

[quote=Rare_Jewel]Marner is a multiple time Selke candidate and among the best two-way forwards the Leafs have (only one of the stars that plays the PK).


Please list these multiple years Marner was a Selke candidate.

I mean since you have said he is a multiple time candidate and sticking to facts is clearly super important to you.

Here I'll even make it easy for you:

https://records.nhl.com/a...hies/frank-j-selke-trophy

I also hope you have never said he's a 100 point player since we know that's also not true.
- Cush29

The facts will set you free.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/m/marnemi01.html

He got Selke votes 6 years in a row.

14th, 33rd, 10th, 16th, 3rd and 17th. Getting votes for the Selke 6 years in a row makes him a consistent Selke candidate.

Finished 3rd in voting last year. The link you provided literally has his name listed.

This is an unholy_goalie alt, which is a completely different defective than the AA series.

Can't wait until the mods get sick of this account poopting all over the place/everyone every day too and (frank) it off with a 20 year ban like the rest. 🤮
- joel878

Ah ok well that being said my motion stands with a slight change to remove the AA and Tanooki references and change the language to Rare Jewel, Unholy Goalie and any and all other alts that person uses or has used!

Do you 2nd this motion?

Yes!

Also Swayman seems like the real deal and locked in the Bruins are set for 5+ years. DeBrusk is a mid guy, if he's looking for 6+ bail.
- AdamFrench

I'd put DeBrusk in the same boat as Niederreiter . . he was overpaid at $5.25m (7%) and the $4m he's at is probably about right (5%). If you put that in this year's terms, DeBrusk should come in around $4.5m - I suppose upwards of $5.25m.

I'd probably take him on any number starting with a 4, but . . .

Ah ok well that being said my motion stands with a slight change to remove the AA and Tanooki references and change the language to Rare Jewel, Unholy Goalie and any and all other alts that person uses or has used!

Do you 2nd this motion?



- Cush29

Seconded. Can add cherry_skoal and JohnFergusonJr to the exodus as well.

The guy has impressive levels of petulant childishness remaining after 15 years, sprinkles of chronic douchebaggery as well. Seems as though he (frank)en sneezed as a baby and has been suffering through having a Gerber pea lodged in his frontal lobe ever since.

Yes!

Also Swayman seems like the real deal and locked in the Bruins are set for 5+ years. DeBrusk is a mid guy, if he's looking for 6+ bail.
- AdamFrench

Swayman is the steady type of goalie that makes difficult saves look easy. He's not a monster in the net like most goalies today but he takes up a lot of space. Not sure he'd be as successful outside of Boston but he's a good fit for them as long as they have a back-up who can share the load. Korpisalo is probably going to work very nicely as a tandem.

And avoid future idiot UFA mistakes? Gladly.

Really doubt any UFA looks at the Tavares situation and gets scared that they'll be given the captaincy, overpaid for 6 years and then be asked to waive a NMC in the 7th year regardless.

The Leafs have treated Tavares exceptionally well that if they did ask him to waive his NMC absolutely no future player would think badly of the team because of it.
- Rare_Jewel

good luck getting any UFA with that attitude
why sign in Toronto when they will not honor your contract

The facts will set you free.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/m/marnemi01.html

He got Selke votes 6 years in a row.

14th, 33rd, 10th, 16th, 3rd and 17th. Getting votes for the Selke 6 years in a row makes him a consistent Selke candidate.

Finished 3rd in voting last year. The link you provided literally has his name listed.
- Rare_Jewel

You do realize EVERY player in the entire league can get votes right? Saying he got votes every year for 6 years means jack poop just like the link you provided.

The link I provided actually shows the players who were actually in the running for the award (top 3) which is exactly what you were trying to insinuate Marner is yearly - and he is not.

He's been top 5 once and top 10 twice so GTFO of here with the "Marner is a multiple Selke Candidate" BS.

Might as well say the pooptiest player who got 1 vote twice is a multiple Selke candidate too right?

And since your so up on facts he was not the 3rd place after all the voting last year it was Auston Matthews.

He had the 3rd most votes in 2022 - 2023.

Facts don't care about your feelings or your love for Marner / hate for JT.

You do realize EVERY player in the entire league can get votes right? Saying he got votes every year for 6 years means jack poop just like the link you provided.

The link I provided actually shows the players who were actually in the running for the award (top 3) which is exactly what you were trying to insinuate Marner is yearly - and he is not.

He's been top 5 once and top 10 twice so GTFO of here with the "Marner is a multiple Selke Candidate" BS.

Might as well say the pooptiest player who got 1 vote twice is a multiple Selke candidate too right?

And since your so up on facts he was not the 3rd place after all the voting last year it was Auston Matthews.

He had the 3rd most votes in 2022 - 2023.

Facts don't care about your feelings or your love for Marner / hate for JT.
- Cush29

Is that why Nylander has 0 Selke votes? Just wondering.

good luck getting any UFA with that attitude
why sign in Toronto when they will not honor your contract
- dmnted

Made him captain, gave him 11 AAV a year for 6 years.

Asking him to waive in year 7 deters nobody in the future.

I guess all the teams that asked players to waive NMC after treating the player like gold for 99% of the time never signed a player ever again...

You should just admit that you were wrong bud. Better than making an ass of yourself.
- shack67

Show me proof and I will.

Haven't seen the proof yet though.

Is that why Nylander has 0 Selke votes? Just wondering.
- Rare_Jewel

Nobody was talking about Nylander but nice try to move goalposts and deflect, the true sign of someone who knows he has been proven wrong by facts.

Ironically enough you were the one who stood on his soap box and told others to stick to facts.