That’s nuts. I like Foerster as well. But you talk about rebuild? That’s how you rebuild. Michkov and Demidov are going to be legit stars.

You’re letting Foerster hold you back from that?

Think about the ufa talent they would attract having those two. Nobody’s coming here to play with foerster.

Flyers have enough to get to 4
- Just5

There will be stars in other drafts. I don’t see a reason to go crazy this year when I think there is a very good chance this team picks higher next draft. Moving Foerster seems like going all in way too early in what I hope is a rebuild.

You can't possibly trade a kid who gave the team 4th line production in top 6 minutes. That would be nuts.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

Briere should make him the 3rd right handed right wing to be locked up for 8 more years
- Feanor

Tyson's finishing will probably improve somewhat and he's actually quite good defensively but we're probably talking about a guy who tops out at 50-60 pts, like a TJ Oshie. A really good complimentary player but not a bus driver.

Everybody agrees that this team lacks elite talent. They likely aren't gonna get an elite player at #12. So if you have to package #12, #32 and Tyson to guarantee a Demidov, as the Flyers you may have to do it. Of course it's not without risks but you'd have to take that swing considering their current situation.

(I doubt Columbus makes that deal tbh tho, and kinda doubt Demi is even still there at #4)

Yes, the overpaid boat anchor only played 21 games of the last 41 and averaged an embarrassing 6:53 per game. Anyone who defended signing a face puncher in his 30s for four years should be offering an apology.
- Feanor

Buying out ND is also an option. I do not see the Flyers sending him or Atkinson to the minors. Torts loves them too much.

For the record I would 100% send both to the minors if required.

There will be stars in other drafts. I don’t see a reason to go crazy this year when I think there is a very good chance this team picks higher next draft. Moving Foerster seems like going all in way too early in what I hope is a rebuild.
- psuhockey

The problem is they don’t think they’re going to be picking early again.

Re-read Bill’s blog. He’s pretty much confirming they’re trying to bring TK back.

Same mistakes as last time. They should’ve bottomed out and got G great players around him. Instead we settled for Voracek and Simmonds, which is maybe what TK falls under. He can’t even put up numbers like Jake tho. Same old same old.

That was a false report from what I understand; the Fyers were never really offered a 1st round pick for Laughton. Still, with the emergence of Poehling, who I think does a lot of similar things, the Flyers should be ammenable to trading Laughton if a team offers a 1st. I might ask for a 1st in 2025, which is projected to be a deeper draft.
- jd250

yes they were, reported by several reputable outlets.

so you dont move him unless you get a first?

The problem is they don’t think they’re going to be picking early again.

Re-read Bill’s blog. He’s pretty much confirming they’re trying to bring TK back.

Same mistakes as last time. They should’ve bottomed out and got G great players around him. Instead we settled for Voracek and Simmonds, which is maybe what TK falls under. He can’t even put up numbers like Jake tho. Same old same old.
- hereticpride

Eh, I don't think you're ever going to do much better than turning Carter and Richards into Voracek, Couturier, Schenn and Simmonds. The problem was they never got that kind of talent in goal or especially on defense.

Since the 2011 trades:

Voracek (7th overall pick) had 672 points in 817 games
Schenn (5th overall pick) has 633 points in 931 games
Couturier (8th overall pick) had 498 points in 795 games
Simmonds (61st overall pick) had 433 points in 797 games

It would be a miracle if Briere could add talent like that in one offseason.

You’re so sure Demidov is the real deal, Michkov actually played in the KHL his draft year. Demidov got a cup of tea. No international tournaments. Tough sell for me.
- ClaudeFather

I don’t know how anyone can be sure. But there’s enough of a consensus for me amongst the people that claim to.

You have to take swings. They al have enough assets where you have to put things together for a player like this. Think about the excitement and the status they’d have in the league going into next summer with all the cap room they have. This becomes a destination

The thing is, Michkov is a RW and projected to be THE RW on the team. Would signing TK for long term at big money make sense for what he will become, a second line RW? I think this will be a huge sticking point between the Flyers and TKs agent. The agent will correctly say TK is a 1st line RW in this league and will expect to be paid like one. For the Flyers now that Michkov is here, that may no longer view TK as a 1st line RW and will not want to tie that money up for him. I am starting to thing that the Flyers may hold off on any extension for TK until they see how Michkov adjusts to the NHL. Or the Flyers might prefer to sign TK to a shorter deal to allow Michkov the time he needs to develop. Either way, I don't see TK's camp being happy about Michkov coming over so quickly.
- jd250

that is dumb and flawed logic as he very well may struggle to start.

still beating the shorter deal route. to funny.

It’s gonna be big

Demidov and Michkov are buds. Hopefully Demidov is not answering calls. Standing teams up. This is the way things are going lately.

So the move is

To CLB: Foerster, #12, #32, CLB 2nd rounder back

To PHI: #4 (Demidov)

Michkov and Demidov for years.

Do it Danny.
- Just5

If Demidov was a center, id be ok with it. Thats too much to give up for a winger

There will be stars in other drafts. I don’t see a reason to go crazy this year when I think there is a very good chance this team picks higher next draft. Moving Foerster seems like going all in way too early in what I hope is a rebuild.
- psuhockey

You can’t sit on your hands. Nothing is guaranteed. Make this move and they still have two firsts next year, with Demidov in tow. Cmon I value your opinion but what’s to really think about?

Buying out ND is also an option. I do not see the Flyers sending him or Atkinson to the minors. Torts loves them too much.

For the record I would 100% send both to the minors if required.
- mickel25

They probably but ND out next season

yes they were, reported by several reputable outlets.

so you dont move him unless you get a first?
- hello it's me 2050

Never saw confirmation of the rumor, just saw the rumor.

Tyson's finishing will probably improve somewhat and he's actually quite good defensively but we're probably talking about a guy who tops out at 50-60 pts, like a TJ Oshie. A really good complimentary player but not a bus driver.

Everybody agrees that this team lacks elite talent. They likely aren't gonna get an elite player at #12. So if you have to package #12, #32 and Tyson to guarantee a Demidov, as the Flyers you may have to do it. Of course it's not without risks but you'd have to take that swing considering their current situation.

(I doubt Columbus makes that deal tbh tho, and kinda doubt Demi is even still there at #4)
- Tomahawk

I don’t think it’s enough. But what if Demidov pulls a power play behind the scenes? Maybe Columbus would value a package like this rather than the next prospect on their list

who does move the needle that the flyers can realistically acquire?
- hello it's me 2050

at this point it would have to be a trade with players and picks involved. I like Pinto but I don't see him being that much more of an upgrade than Frost - albeit he is younger and has a higher ceiling so there should be considerations. I don't mind trading for him but would not overpay.

I guess it really depends on the asking price. Is Laughton and picks enough?

The problem is they don’t think they’re going to be picking early again.

Re-read Bill’s blog. He’s pretty much confirming they’re trying to bring TK back.

Same mistakes as last time. They should’ve bottomed out and got G great players around him. Instead we settled for Voracek and Simmonds, which is maybe what TK falls under. He can’t even put up numbers like Jake tho. Same old same old.
- hereticpride

I agree they should bottom out but they won’t do it. There is no point in keep talking about it because it will never happen. Luckily the talent level on the defense and goaltending isn’t good enough for this team to be any good. I don’t think they will be picking top 5 next year but I won’t be shocked if they did. I think more than likely 7. Can they get a Demidov like talent at 7 in next years draft or trade up a couple of spots instead of 8 like they would have to this year.

Nobody talks about it but ND did sit often as the Flyers tried to claw their way into the playoffs.
- roenick97

wonderful - he is still a stiff taking up a roster spot.

wonderful - he is still a stiff taking up a roster spot.
- Flyfly

Compression is an issue

I don’t think it’s enough. But what if Demidov pulls a power play behind the scenes? Maybe Columbus would value a package like this rather than the next prospect on their list
- Just5

Reports are that Demi is presenting himself well to teams in 1 on 1s at the combine. And with the news of Michkov I don't think teams will be as concerned about the 'Russian factor'.

Columbus will have a chance at one of the top players on their list at #4. I doubt they move out of that for a chance at Tyson Foerster and a couple of lesser prospects. They have organizational depth but like the Flyers they need more bus drivers.

at this point it would have to be a trade with players and picks involved. I like Pinto but I don't see him being that much more of an upgrade than Frost - albeit he is younger and has a higher ceiling so there should be considerations. I don't mind trading for him but would not overpay.

I guess it really depends on the asking price. Is Laughton and picks enough?
- Flyfly

lol...how many 1st? you want a #1 center and #1 and your offer is laughton and picks.

this is why it will likely never happen.

You can’t sit on your hands. Nothing is guaranteed. Make this move and they still have two firsts next year, with Demidov in tow. Cmon I value your opinion but what’s to really think about?
- Just5

I agree about not sitting on your hands but I don’t think Foerster should be on the table just yet. No doubt a team needs stars but it also needs depth too and I think Foester has a chance to be a valuable depth piece. I would explore other trade pieces and if it can’t be done, I would wait until next draft where I believe the Flyers will be picking higher.

lol...how many 1st? you want a #1 center and #1 and your offer is laughton and picks.

this is why it will likely never happen.
- hello it's me 2050

JFC - I am talking about trading for Pinto. So you think Pinto is worth a 1st round? LOL

Reports are that Demi is presenting himself well to teams in 1 on 1s at the combine. And with the news of Michkov I don't think teams will be as concerned about the 'Russian factor'.

Columbus will have a chance at one of the top players on their list at #4. I doubt they move out of that for a chance at Tyson Foerster and a couple of lesser prospects. They have organizational depth but like the Flyers they need more bus drivers.
- Tomahawk

Ok. If I’m Columbus and Demidov is saying all the right things. Yea there’s next to nothing the flyers could do to entice me enough. I guess he’s presenting differently than mich

The asks are inflated, the offers on players/assets of interest are too low as GMs hope to catch a colleague in desperation mode. In all likelihood there will be trades made this weekend, but the percentage that get consummated relative to the percentage that get proposed is quite low. Also, the percentage of exaggerated rumors (and worse, flat out, bad information with no basis in reality) shoots sky high. Be very careful with whom and what you believe before a credible source puts it out as a done deal.

This is generally what they say at the trade deadline when noting that big deals are better left to the offseason.

This is generally what they say at the trade deadline when noting that big deals are better left to the offseason.
- Uncle Vanya

I think they will make at least one trade. I have a hard time believing they will just run it back with just adding Michkov.

TK will not sign for less than 8 years. Why would he? There is no incentive to him signing shorter than 8 years, as this will be his last big contract. He is not going to be wanting to get a deal at 34.
- TheFreak

The Flyers are the only team in the NHL that can give TK an 8 year deal. So TK has no leverage to force the Flyers to give him an 8 year deal. It is TKs last big contract, but for the Flyers he will be a 2nd line RW if Michkov develops as hoped, and I think that will put a wrench in the nogotiations.