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paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 4:35 PM ET
Two and a half hours folks

This is great.

Lots of action the past couple days already.

- BetweenTheDots

If Philly or Montreal make a big offer for the #2 do you think KD bites?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 4:38 PM ET
Devils shopping Marino to the Hawks for a 3rd pure cap dump, any interest?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 28 @ 4:38 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Rinzel he's one of the few RD in the system and has more value IMO than Mcgroarty.
- SaskHawkFan


I'd think long and hard before I moved Rinzel. For me, besides Vlasic, Rinzel took the biggest jump of all the prospects in the system. Yes, he's a right shot, mobile, good size at a premium position but I'd argue a power forward is a premium position too cuz it's so hard to fill.

Hadn't thought about it but I bet WPG would ask for Rinzel in a McGroarty deal.


vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 28 @ 4:39 PM ET
If Philly or Montreal make a big offer for the #2 do you think KD bites?
- paulr


If he is taking Leshunov he could, if he's taking Demidov he can't.
TheDrumonMadison
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.20.2019

Jun 28 @ 4:48 PM ET
Prayers to the hockey gods that Seth Jones wants out and is sent out. Don’t care if he’s useful now, it’s about when the window opens.

Whoever we get at 2 will be mgmt’s stake, and they will need to hang their hat on that choice and resulting development.
Pick 18 is bonus. Hoping we get someone who falls or we package it for young help ready to work with Bedard.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
If Philly or Montreal make a big offer for the #2 do you think KD bites?
- paulr


No, they can't offer enough to make him trade back.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 28 @ 4:54 PM ET
Devils shopping Marino to the Hawks for a 3rd pure cap dump, any interest?
- Scott1977


He is worse than Murphy and Jones, why not?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 28 @ 4:55 PM ET
Prayers to the hockey gods that Seth Jones wants out and is sent out. Don’t care if he’s useful now, it’s about when the window opens.

Whoever we get at 2 will be mgmt’s stake, and they will need to hang their hat on that choice and resulting development.
Pick 18 is bonus. Hoping we get someone who falls or we package it for young help ready to work with Bedard.

- TheDrumonMadison


Jones is not and will not be an issue. He's good now and won't be an issue later. Vlasic ended up having some of the top defensive metric playing with him. Yes, Vlasic gets credit there, but don't fool yourself that Jones didn't help him.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
If he is taking Leshunov he could, if he's taking Demidov he can't.
- vabeachbear


Like Chunk said the 2nd pick is between Demi and Levshunov. What if the other clubs see Levshunov is the prize. I can see the Ducks taking him at 3. I was surprised they took Carlsson last year over Fantilli.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
No, they can't offer enough to make him trade back.
- BetweenTheDots

I can think of a few
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Jun 28 @ 5:03 PM ET
Jones is not and will not be an issue. He's good now and won't be an issue later. Vlasic ended up having some of the top defensive metric playing with him. Yes, Vlasic gets credit there, but don't fool yourself that Jones didn't help him.
- Chunk


I also give him credit for helping raise McCabe's trade value last year. The consensus on here seems to be he is a good second pair guy on a good team. We need to know whether or not he wants to be here. If he wants out, then find a good return for him. A guy that wants out can kill a locker room, especially one this young and impressionable.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 5:04 PM ET
I can think of a few
- paulr


What deal would you make?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 28 @ 5:07 PM ET
Devils shopping Marino to the Hawks for a 3rd pure cap dump, any interest?
- Scott1977


A 3rd? Shouldn't NJ be giving us something to take him? Walman and a 2nd to SJ for Detroit future considerations
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 28 @ 5:10 PM ET
A 3rd? Shouldn't NJ be giving us something to take him? Walman and a 2nd to SJ for Detroit future considerations
- BetweenTheDots

Should've clarified Marino and 3rd to Chicago
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 28 @ 5:12 PM ET

via GIPHY


- paulr


It's what happens when you (not you) have an underdeveloped sense of humor or a complete inability to detect sarcasm/BS.

It's unfortunately why red font had to be created for this place.
TheDrumonMadison
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.20.2019

Jun 28 @ 5:18 PM ET
Jones is not and will not be an issue. He's good now and won't be an issue later. Vlasic ended up having some of the top defensive metric playing with him. Yes, Vlasic gets credit there, but don't fool yourself that Jones didn't help him.
- Chunk

Never said that. We’ll see in the last two years of that deal and he’s slowing down.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 28 @ 5:20 PM ET
Should've clarified Marino and 3rd to Chicago
- Scott1977


The Devils are trying to clear space to sign Pesce, instread of getting another Zaitsev, why don’t the Hawks try and sign Pesce? Even KD has said he is not looking for more trades for draft picks.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 28 @ 5:23 PM ET
The Devils are trying to clear space to sign Pesce, instread of getting another Zaitsev, why don’t the Hawks try and sign Pesce? Even KD has said he is not looking for more trades for draft picks.
- LAHawk


Preach! The Lafferty Mikheyev trade should be considered the baseline level trade (in terms of asset quality gained) that KD should be making at this point.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jun 28 @ 5:25 PM ET
Should've clarified Marino and 3rd to Chicago
- Scott1977


Taking on Marino, moving a current Dman???
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
Even assuming a person is smart enough to be a GM some aren't cut out for the pressure that comes with it. A few days after deciphering/projecting what a handful of 17/18 yr olds will be on and off the ice when they're 25 they go into free agency where they walk a field full of landmines.

GMing ain't easy.

- Mr Ricochet

This board projects much earlier than 25.
Revco38
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wherever I leave my hat
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 5:29 PM ET
The Devils are trying to clear space to sign Pesce, instread of getting another Zaitsev, why don’t the Hawks try and sign Pesce? Even KD has said he is not looking for more trades for draft picks.
- LAHawk


$4.4 for the next 3 years need better than a 3rd to take on that contract.

Doubt Pesce will want to come to Chicago (love to have him)- he will have many better placed suitors who will overpay ($ and term) because they feel they are 1-2 pieces from serious contention.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 28 @ 5:29 PM ET
The Blues have acquired Alex Texier from CBJ for a 4th round pick.
- DarthKane

Kyle sleeping again but who the heck is Texier?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 28 @ 5:30 PM ET
Things are getting interesting.

#2 for #5, #21 and a prospect?

Then #18 and #21 for #10?

Iginla/D!ckinson at #5, Yakemchuck/Eiserman at #10

- boilermaker100


Now this is what I call a legit caution to the wind swing.. Very interesting, BM, especially if Buium was there at #5 even though I'm a D!ckinson guy...

Read somewhere that D!ckinson plays like a pro and looks like a pro. Indeed, and I really think his offense is underrated. Kid has a booming shot but shows very good offensive IQ both in the Ozone and off the rush.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 28 @ 5:31 PM ET
I think that'll be an interesting thing to see play out today and the rest of the off season
- fattybeef

I don't think KD is risk adverse.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Jun 28 @ 5:36 PM ET
If he is taking Leshunov he could, if he's taking Demidov he can't.
- vabeachbear

Good way of looking at it.
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