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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Saturday @ 9:04 AM ET
You’re right, I don’t know how it will all turn out. But I do know that every single scouting report and hockey publication available to the public had Buium rated MUCH higher than Luchanko.
Every. Single. One.

- BiggE


We also saw what Buium ACCOMPLISHED this year and what Luchanko did….again Luchanko is a good prospect , but the guy they passed on has elite talent potential…something that beyond Michkov, the Flyers simply don’t have.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Saturday @ 9:07 AM ET
The question I keep going back to is this. How are the Flyers going to acquire elite talent?

Their strategy on draft night shows they don’t know either.

Maybe they don’t care and are gonna middle six the nhl to death.

- StepfordSam



Do you actually watch any ohl games?
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Saturday @ 9:10 AM ET
It’s bad value and bad process. Yes it’s as bad as everyone is saying.
- psuhockey

Have you watch him play in the ohl
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Saturday @ 9:10 AM ET
You have no idea how these kids will shake out. Luchanko has a big D+1 year and everyone’s singing a different tune. Youngest guy in the draft.
- ClaudeFather

The Flyers really love Luchenko and believe he is just scratching the surface. And as I suspected, the Flyers want size on defense given they have York, Drysdale and Andrae, thus they passed on Buium who is on the smaller side. Luchenko projects to be a Nick Susuki. If this happens, I think we all will be very happy with a future captain and all-star.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Saturday @ 9:11 AM ET
You’re right, I don’t know how it will all turn out. But I do know that every single scouting report and hockey publication available to the public had Buium rated MUCH higher than Luchanko.
Every. Single. One.

- BiggE

Crapshoot once you hit those higher first round picks. Would the kid have been there late teens to early 20s, probably.
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Saturday @ 9:11 AM ET
It’s bad value and bad process. Yes it’s as bad as everyone is saying.
- psuhockey

Have you watch him play in the ohl
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Saturday @ 9:12 AM ET
We also saw what Buium ACCOMPLISHED this year and what Luchanko did….again Luchanko is a good prospect , but the guy they passed on has elite talent potential…something that beyond Michkov, the Flyers simply don’t have.
- landros 2

Buium is almost an entire year older than Luchanko….
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Saturday @ 9:17 AM ET
We also saw what Buium ACCOMPLISHED this year and what Luchanko did….again Luchanko is a good prospect , but the guy they passed on has elite talent potential…something that beyond Michkov, the Flyers simply don’t have.
- landros 2

If Buium has elite potential the Flyers would not have passed on him. I do no believe with Buium's size that he will be a top pairing defenseman. Size matters in the NHL, not so much in juniors or college.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Saturday @ 9:20 AM ET
Have you watch him play in the ohl
- SlNlSTER


We get it dude. You don’t have to keep typing the same thing over and over
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Saturday @ 9:24 AM ET
The only thing I like about last night was loading up on first round picks for next year if, as they say, next draft is much deeper..
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Saturday @ 9:31 AM ET
I wonder if Bill is going to write a damage control piece like Biden's advisors. Or just write a lukewarm piece not attacking the brass or the holy Alumni. 😉
BaronVonShiznit
Location: The Desert Southwest
Joined: 09.07.2014

Saturday @ 9:32 AM ET
If Buium has elite potential the Flyers would not have passed on him. I do no believe with Buium's size that he will be a top pairing defenseman. Size matters in the NHL, not so much in juniors or college.
- jd250


Did size prevent Kimmo Timonen (who was listed at a whopping 5' 10") from being a top-pairing defenseman?

I get it... there are a lot of smallish players already playing the blue line for Philly, but none of those smallish guys are irreplaceable, especially for a team that's missed the playoffs the past 4 seasons and has zero NHL-calibre depth in the system.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Saturday @ 9:34 AM ET
The Flyers really love Luchenko and believe he is just scratching the surface. And as I suspected, the Flyers want size on defense given they have York, Drysdale and Andrae, thus they passed on Buium who is on the smaller side. Luchenko projects to be a Nick Susuki. If this happens, I think we all will be very happy with a future captain and all-star.
- jd250

always entertaining seeing you felate over everything this incompetent organization does.

size smize. yuu draft the dman then trade on of the other low-level guys you have who you ar eenmored with. Andrae will be at best a bottom pair guy if he makes the nhl.

Do you think they drafted the BPA or did they draft by need?

bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Saturday @ 9:34 AM ET
Good trade of the 32nd pick. They get a higher pick in a future draft. Possibly on the next draft.

3 first would be nice

- WhiskeyMan


3 first absolutely puts them in the drivers seat if they want to trade up next year. Now can we please finish bottom 10
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Saturday @ 9:34 AM ET
If Buium has elite potential the Flyers would not have passed on him. I do no believe with Buium's size that he will be a top pairing defenseman. Size matters in the NHL, not so much in juniors or college.
- jd250

https://x.com/NHL_Watcher...elph-ohl.2970026%2Fpage-4
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Saturday @ 9:36 AM ET
I wonder if Bill is going to write a damage control piece like Biden's advisors. Or just write a lukewarm piece not attacking the brass or the holy Alumni. 😉
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Only the flyers Facebook fans will buy a shiny propoganda piece. 😉
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Saturday @ 9:36 AM ET
3 first absolutely puts them in the drivers seat if they want to trade up next year. Now can we please finish bottom 10
- bradster

in the drivers seat to draft some more middle of the road types.


or hopefully use them to acquire some vets to make a playoff push
SlNlSTER
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2023

Saturday @ 9:42 AM ET
3 first absolutely puts them in the drivers seat if they want to trade up next year. Now can we please finish bottom 10
- bradster

Absolutely 💯

Bottom 10 with 3 first would be amazing
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Saturday @ 9:42 AM ET
in the drivers seat to draft some more middle of the road types.


or hopefully use them to acquire some vets to make a playoff push

- hello it's me 2050


Not that it will matter but the Oilers pick is top 12 protected. If the oilers somehow get a top 12 next yr the pick slides to 2026
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Saturday @ 9:44 AM ET
After their 1rst round tonight I’m not seeing a GM that’s inspiring much confidence….no player trades…a reach for a guy. A buyout because of warm and fuzzy feelings. A bad day.
- landros 2


the buyout saves the team money, its still a business if you can save a mil or two doing it, it makes sense
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Saturday @ 9:45 AM ET
Buium is almost an entire year older than Luchanko….
- ClaudeFather

I will take a wait and so approach. n the surface it is very very questionable.

positive is this kid is 17 and lead his team in scoring. got them to the playoffs. so lets see how he progresses.

my issue is you take the dman (he fell in your lap) then you move up to take this kid with the extra 1st in 24 and extra 1st in 25. That to me could have been accomplished.

hearing the bs excuses from danny boy does not give me much confidence at all. making need based picks isnt a recipe for success.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Saturday @ 9:46 AM ET
Not that it will matter but the Oilers pick is top 12 protected. If the oilers somehow get a top 12 next yr the pick slides to 2026
- Flyfly

no issue with dealing that pick after they did what they did earlier.

in theory it should be higher.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Saturday @ 9:48 AM ET
With how young Jett is and all the draft picks next year, it makes little sense to have anyone on the roster who is on a contract past age 28. I'll exclude Tippett only because his contract will be over at age 33. If everything goes well, Jett and these future 1st rdrs will be next to Michkov when he is signing his second contract.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Saturday @ 9:50 AM ET
the buyout saves the team money, its still a business if you can save a mil or two doing it, it makes sense
- bradster

they still have to pay a player to replace him no?
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Saturday @ 9:51 AM ET
no issue with dealing that pick after they did what they did earlier.

in theory it should be higher.

- hello it's me 2050


Same… hopefully it is much higher
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