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bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Saturday @ 9:59 AM ET
He’s a better skater than Laughton was. I wasn’t all that impressed with his skill level…there were easily 5 kids on the ice the night I watched him that were far better skill wise…(one was Denver Barkey though).
He’s a good prospect…but he never should have cracked the top 20.

- landros 2


I think jett will be a better pro than barkey, so not sure that means anything
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Saturday @ 9:59 AM ET
I will take a wait and so approach. n the surface it is very very questionable.

positive is this kid is 17 and lead his team in scoring. got them to the playoffs. so lets see how he progresses.

my issue is you take the dman (he fell in your lap) then you move up to take this kid with the extra 1st in 24 and extra 1st in 25. That to me could have been accomplished.

hearing the bs excuses from danny boy does not give me much confidence at all. making need based picks isnt a recipe for success.

- hello it's me 2050

In a perfect world you draft Beium or Helenius and then trade up to get lachenko. The kid is young, it looks like a good pick. None of these kids were sure things.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Saturday @ 10:09 AM ET
If Buium has elite potential the Flyers would not have passed on him. I do no believe with Buium's size that he will be a top pairing defenseman. Size matters in the NHL, not so much in juniors or college.
- jd250

It’s not me saying it …. It was a number of scouts. And a 6ft he’s not that small… his year he just had was off the charts and to me they reached for their guy… I’m not one of the guys saying he’s a plug… or that he’s awful… I think he can become a decent center… a very good 2nd C … maybe a 3rd… but as other have pointed out he’s still 17…I believe he’s August 06… might be wrong. I’m am happy he plays close to where I am so I look forward to following him for the next couple of years.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Saturday @ 10:10 AM ET
I think jett will be a better pro than barkey, so not sure that means anything
- bradster

I agree… when they played this year I focused more on Barkey but I also thought Jett was one of the better guys on the storm… but they weren’t very good.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Saturday @ 10:18 AM ET
Buium, 18 (12/7/05), played his first season of collegiate hockey at the University of Denver last season, totaling 50 points (11-39=50), 20 penalty minutes (PIM), 41 blocked shots and a plus-34 rating in 42 games as the second-youngest player in college hockey. His 50-point season was the first by a freshman NCAA defenseman in over 20 years. He led the Pioneers in assists and plus/minus, ranked second in points and third in blocked shots. Buium was named National Collegiate Hockey Conference (NCHC) Rookie of the Year and the Best Offensive Defensemen, and was named to the NCHC All-Rookie Team, First All-Star Team and All-Tournament Team. He was also named to the USCHO First Team, NCAA First All-American Team and was a Hobey Baker Award Nominee. The left-shot blueliner helped lead the Pioneers to an NCHC championship and an NCAA Frozen Four National Championship, both played at Xcel Energy Center in Saint Paul, Minn.

The 6-foot, 185-pound native of Laguna Niguel, Calif., also won a gold medal with Team USA in the 2024 IIHF World Junior Championship, tallying five points (3-2=5) and tournament best plus-11 rating in seven games, including a goal in the gold-medal game. His goal total was the most by a defenseman in the tournament. He also won a gold medal with Team USA at the 2023 Under-18 IIHF World Junior Championship, recording six points (1-5=6) in seven games. Buium recorded 40 points (5-35=40) and 44 PIM in a total of 63 games with the United States National Team Development Program in 2022-23. He played for Shattuck St. Mary’s for two years (2019-21) before joining the United States National Team Development Program for the 2021-22 season.


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Glad they passed on that bum because the Flyers are short on center depth for the 2030 season.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Saturday @ 10:20 AM ET
So… anyone have an idea why Flyers bought Atkinson out? Only one year left and the entire thing could be wiped out this time next year with no dead money. It doesn’t appear there is a vital need to open up the 3m that buying him out opens this year unless there’s a plan. Right? The eyes are on 2025 draft it appears and just Zamula needs a new contract right? Am I missing something?
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Saturday @ 10:20 AM ET
I'm not sure what EDM is doing giving up future 1st rd picks before a trade deadline with Draisaitl a UFA next season and McDavid in 2 years. Oilers are in a win now mode, do not understand the move for a prospect that is 2 yrs down the line at best. No issue with this Briere move last night.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Saturday @ 10:21 AM ET
No, but there is not one scout, at least outside of the Flyers org, that rated Luchanko higher than Buium. Nada. You always draft BPA with your first round pick, period, and the Flyers failed to do so. What’s worse, they claimed that they were concerned that they had too many small Dmen already in the system. Let’s take a look at those guys:
York: a 2/3 guy
Drysdale: injury prone
Andrae: may never be more than an AHl/NHL tweener.

To not select a potential 1D because those 3 are in the organization is just woefully inept. Luchanko, at best, is a future 2C. You don’t pass on a potential #1 Dman for that.

- BiggE


Exactly 100% and even if Zeev were to bust out no one would ever blame Philly for taking him at 12. No one
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Saturday @ 10:24 AM ET
So… anyone have an idea why Flyers bought Atkinson out? Only one year left and the entire thing could be wiped out this time next year with no dead money. It doesn’t appear there is a vital need to open up the 3m that buying him out opens this year unless there’s a plan. Right? The eyes are on 2025 draft it appears and just Zamula needs a new contract right? Am I missing something?
- mikeyo27


they saved a couple million doing it. need to make business moves and hockey moves
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Saturday @ 10:28 AM ET
So… anyone have an idea why Flyers bought Atkinson out? Only one year left and the entire thing could be wiped out this time next year with no dead money. It doesn’t appear there is a vital need to open up the 3m that buying him out opens this year unless there’s a plan. Right? The eyes are on 2025 draft it appears and just Zamula needs a new contract right? Am I missing something?
- mikeyo27


Need to pay MM?
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Saturday @ 10:36 AM ET
Need to pay MM?
- WhiskeyMan


Oh yeah. I guess that’s kind of a priority. I guess it also signals that they don’t think they can open up cap space via a trade. But that makes sense.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Saturday @ 10:42 AM ET
no issue with dealing that pick after they did what they did earlier.

in theory it should be higher.

- hello it's me 2050


I think Danny should’ve got more. Mid rounder
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Saturday @ 10:47 AM ET
No, but there is not one scout, at least outside of the Flyers org, that rated Luchanko higher than Buium. Nada. You always draft BPA with your first round pick, period, and the Flyers failed to do so. What’s worse, they claimed that they were concerned that they had too many small Dmen already in the system. Let’s take a look at those guys:
York: a 2/3 guy
Drysdale: injury prone
Andrae: may never be more than an AHl/NHL tweener.

To not select a potential 1D because those 3 are in the organization is just woefully inept. Luchanko, at best, is a future 2C. You don’t pass on a potential #1 Dman for that.

- BiggE

The fact that he has even admitted this line of thinking to the fans is fireable. It’s moronic.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Saturday @ 11:08 AM ET
The fact that he has even admitted this line of thinking to the fans is fireable. It’s moronic.
- Flyers1218


Embarrassing. Far worse than the caufield skip
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Saturday @ 1:22 PM ET
always entertaining seeing you felate over everything this incompetent organization does.

size smize. yuu draft the dman then trade on of the other low-level guys you have who you ar eenmored with. Andrae will be at best a bottom pair guy if he makes the nhl.

Do you think they drafted the BPA or did they draft by need?

- hello it's me 2050

When it came down to their pick they looked at the players available and looked at their list. 1D and 1C are prioritized. The 1Ds, I mean the real 1Ds like Silayev and Levshunov were gone, so the Flyers picked the player they felt had the best chance to be a true 1C in the NHL, and that was Luchenko in their opinion. We will see if they are right in a couple of seasons.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Saturday @ 1:27 PM ET
It’s not me saying it …. It was a number of scouts. And a 6ft he’s not that small… his year he just had was off the charts and to me they reached for their guy… I’m not one of the guys saying he’s a plug… or that he’s awful… I think he can become a decent center… a very good 2nd C … maybe a 3rd… but as other have pointed out he’s still 17…I believe he’s August 06… might be wrong. I’m am happy he plays close to where I am so I look forward to following him for the next couple of years.
- landros 2

Yes, scouts that 1. don't actually work for NHL teams and 2. are part time at best. From what I can tell, the Flyers would have picked Levshunov, Silayev or D!ckinson but they were gone, so they went with what they think is the best 1C on the board after Celebrini and Lindstrom. Its clear Breire tried to move up but it was also clear teams in the top 10 were not trading out of the top 10.
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