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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
trust me, you’re too easy. how’s your wife? if you’re retired so surely you have plenty of time for her when you’re not fat-fingering it up here. how’s your 22 year old kid? how far away did they move once they realized their dad is pathetic?
- anti-lame

this is the best you have? you are killing it today.

most kids move out when they join the workforce/graduate from college. At least normal ones.

coming from a guy who brags about his popcorn selling dad having inside info.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 29 @ 6:20 PM ET
Here is the difference, which shouldn’t have to be spelled out but apparently needs to be: The teams that passed on Zeev all drafted highly touted prospects, not a guy that tops out as a maybe a 3C and is at least 2-3 years away. Thats the issue.

We watched a decade of Giroux not having enough around him and the Flyers, by their own self-infliction, just passed over a possible top pairing D man because he’s similar in size to some less talented and injury prone players they already have. The stupidity of this franchise knows no bounds and will continue to do so while Comcast is choosing the people that run things.

- hereticpride

You have no idea what Luchenko tops out at and neither do I. The Flyers think he can be a 1C or 2C, and if that happens then Luchenko is a good pick. What you don't understand is most of the publications you read about a player come from scouting that happened months ago. Luchenko by all accounts had a tremendous 2nd half of the season and his stock was rising fast. Also consider he is only 17 years old and is already 195 lbs of pure muscle. The kid, like Cam York, is a workout freak from what I read and had a great combine also. So the kid already has an NHL body, skates like the wind and has a high hockey IQ. Give him 2 more years in the minors and barring any injury, he could be a top center prospect in the NHL. The only stupidity here is people like yourself that are trying pass judgement on a 17 year old kid! The Flyers loved the player and he was their target if they could not trade into the top 10 and they executed accordingly.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
Were the picks GMDBs choices? Or was this a reverse Hextall, where he got outvoted? I don’t say that to be an ass, I ask that genuinely. Does Danny have the final say in the drafting?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:21 PM ET
It means there is no injury .. his medical staff looked at him, but the Flyers had to say there was so they could put him on LTIR, since you can't send down an injured player.
- jd250

lol that is your reasoning. man you go any lengths to defend this team.

wouldn't that also be for lack a better word illegal/unethical?
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:22 PM ET
Were the picks GMDBs choices? Or was this a reverse Hextall, where he got outvoted? I don’t say that to be an ass, I ask that genuinely. Does Danny have the final say in the drafting?
- mikeyo27


If Torts ran the team like everyone claims he would’ve been there.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:23 PM ET
this is the best you have? you are killing it today.

most kids move out when they join the workforce/graduate from college. At least normal ones.

coming from a guy who brags about his popcorn selling dad having inside info.

- hello it's me 2050


Great, you’re learning!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 29 @ 6:24 PM ET
lol that is your reasoning. man you go any lengths to defend this team.

wouldn't that also be for lack a better word illegal/unethical?

- hello it's me 2050

It is what it is, the Flyers don't have the cap space for RJ to play and from what I understand, Torts won't play him anyway. Thus the only option last season was to waive RJ and send him to the Phantoms so RJ faked an injury to stop that from happening. Now the Flyers can't buy him out because RJ is faking an injury. So what option do the Flyers have except put him on LTIR day on of next season? I for one don't want to watch RJ on this team next season.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:25 PM ET
If I have got a few players op my board that I rate equally, by definition they are the BPA on my board. I thus take the player where I have the most need, which in the Flyers case was center. The Flyers clearly had Luchenko ahead of Helenius so they picked him. What you are not understanding is you somehow think Buium was ranked higher on the Flyers board, which is the only thing that counts, but Briere clearly stated they thought Buium and Luchenko where about the same so they picked the center. Luchenko, like Beckett-Sennecke, were rising quickly up the draft board and thus both got selected earlier than projected. Luchenko never would have made it past the Blues at 16.
- jd250

it is a simple question. doesn't require a long drawn out answer that doesn't answer said question.

do you know he wasn't? the gm said they drafted for need. what part do you not get? so it is very possible he was ranked higher and as the GM he took who he took. You just suck this team off to no end. really is embarrassing.

you do realize they have only 1. yes 1 elite level player in the organization. That is a fn disgrace would you agree?

haven't made the playoffs in what 4 years? Nothing else even close to top level player. So you keep blowing the scouts and organization. Until they change their approach and flush out the current staff with an entirely new one (won't happen) very little will change. Hearing blowhards like "boosh" talk them up is beyond comical as well. 
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
Great, you’re learning!
- anti-lame

another topper. whats the secret?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
it is a simple question. doesn't require a long drawn out answer that doesn't answer said question.

do you know he wasn't? the gm said they drafted for need. what part do you not get? so it is very possible he was ranked higher and as the GM he took who he took. You just suck this team off to no end. really is embarrassing.

you do realize they have only 1. yes 1 elite level player in the organization. That is a fn disgrace would you agree?

haven't made the playoffs in what 4 years? Nothing else even close to top level player. So you keep blowing the scouts and organization. Until they change their approach and flush out the current staff with an entirely new one (won't happen) very little will change. Hearing blowhards like "boosh" talk them up is beyond comical as well. 

- hello it's me 2050

the GM said there were a few players at 13 they liked but Luchenko was the player they coveted so they drafted him. What else is there to say?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:27 PM ET
It is what it is, the Flyers don't have the cap space for RJ to play and from what I understand, Torts won't play him anyway. Thus the only option last season was to waive RJ and send him to the Phantoms so RJ faked an injury to stop that from happening. Now the Flyers can't buy him out because RJ is faking an injury. So what option do the Flyers have except put him on LTIR day on of next season? I for one don't want to watch RJ on this team next season.
- jd250

so he is faking an injury. flyers found nothing wrong with him. all according to you.

what option do they have? dispute said injury go to a 3rd party to verify. nah cant do that as gold standard teams never go that route.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:29 PM ET
the GM said there were a few players at 13 they liked and but Luchenko was the player they liked the most so they draft him. What else is there to say?
- jd250

again you dindt answer. why you side stepping?

where are the links where danny boy saif this as the other links where he said he drafted for need have been posted.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 29 @ 6:29 PM ET
it is a simple question. doesn't require a long drawn out answer that doesn't answer said question.

do you know he wasn't? the gm said they drafted for need. what part do you not get? so it is very possible he was ranked higher and as the GM he took who he took. You just suck this team off to no end. really is embarrassing.

you do realize they have only 1. yes 1 elite level player in the organization. That is a fn disgrace would you agree?

haven't made the playoffs in what 4 years? Nothing else even close to top level player. So you keep blowing the scouts and organization. Until they change their approach and flush out the current staff with an entirely new one (won't happen) very little will change. Hearing blowhards like "boosh" talk them up is beyond comical as well. 

- hello it's me 2050

So Michkov is elite in your mind when he hasn't even played a game in the NHL yet? Again the difference between paper law and trial law.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
(frank) off with the zeev poop we got drysdale and York zeev was with quitters agent ride or die female doges
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jun 29 @ 6:31 PM ET
again you dindt answer. why you side stepping?

where are the links where danny boy saif this as the other links where he said he drafted for need have been posted.

- hello it's me 2050

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIhlZhVg3RY&t=162s

watch the first couple of minutes

"Jett was our guy that we wanted"
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:35 PM ET
So Michkov is elite in your mind when he hasn't even played a game in the NHL yet? Again the difference between paper law and trial law.
- jd250

yes he has elite level skill. But you go the other route to try to defend this crap organization.

so who is/are the elite level players in the organization in your opinion?

so lets say MM isnt elit level. Then they have zero. even better.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:38 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIhlZhVg3RY&t=162s

watch the first couple of minutes

"Jett was our guy that we wanted"

- jd250

so than danny boy is a liar and contradicts himself. understood.


anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:47 PM ET
yes he has elite level skill. But you go the other route to try to defend this crap organization.

so who is/are the elite level players in the organization in your opinion?

so lets say MM isnt elit level. Then they have zero. even better.

- hello it's me 2050


Why follow them then? Are you that bored in your pathetic retired life that you come here everyday to discuss this crap organization?

Sit there and rot you dumb (frank)
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:48 PM ET
Why is that sad? Seems to me it’s a healthier attitude to have. It’s just sports after all.
- Dkos


smartest post of the day
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jun 29 @ 6:50 PM ET
So Michkov is elite in your mind when he hasn't even played a game in the NHL yet? Again the difference between paper law and trial law.
- jd250


To be fair, pretty much every expert on evaluating NHL talent has described Michkov as “elite” “special” “a star” or in similar terms. The Hockey News even called him the “next great Russian superstar.”

And then there’s the fact that he’s either broken, tied, or come close to breaking Russian records at his age for guys like Ovechkin, Malkin, Kucherov (just to name a few). And in the Covid-period Worlds Michkov (12G 4A) outscored Bedard (7G 7A). So Michkov is probably not a good example to use.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 6:52 PM ET
Why follow them then? Are you that bored in your pathetic retired life that you come here everyday to discuss this crap organization?

Sit there and rot you dumb (frank)

- anti-lame

another big yawn.

because i enjoy watching them fail. more entertaining than winning at this point. but you keep tea bagging them.

don't hate that you can't retire. or for that matter your dad.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:57 PM ET
funny considering you'd probably let trump dip his old balls in your mouth
- anti-lame


c'mon, I can't un(frank)ing read that!
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 7:04 PM ET
another big yawn.

because i enjoy watching them fail. more entertaining than winning at this point. but you keep tea bagging them.

don't hate that you can't retire. or for that matter your dad.

- hello it's me 2050


When he does retire it will be televised and you’ll be praising his career. Bet.

Did they do anything like that for you at Arbys?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 29 @ 7:06 PM ET
We don't know how drafting Jett will work out, but fingers crossed. I do like trading the 32nd pick to the Oilers for next years 1st round pick. There was nobody that stood out at #32. Next years draft is supposed to be stronger, so even if the Oilers win the cup and the Flyers get the 32nd pick again, there should be better talent to choose from. That will give the Flyers 3 1st round picks next year. Only time will tell on how DB uses those picks?
- Thors-Hammer


Always a gamble. Hopefully the Flyers luck starts to turn with Michkov and Jett.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 7:11 PM ET
When he does retire it will be televised and you’ll be praising his career. Bet.

Did they do anything like that for you at Arbys?

- anti-lame

outdoing yourself.
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