Looks like quite an arms race is developing in the Atlantic Division. See if Briere can capitalize and add more assets in the future. Many mixed signals right now. Lots of assets for the next draft. Prospects drafted this weekend were very young from the draft class. Assume construct a team to get into top 5 for next draft. However, tradeable veteran assets like TK and Laughton still on the roster. Weird times.

I don’t think TK fits into the Michkov window. If it were me I’d build around michkov. Load up on picks by trading TK Laughts and couturier. I just think it’s a timing thing. By the time Mitchkov hits his prime those guys are going to be on the downside of their careers. Get a high first round center pick next year to compliment mitchkov.
Now if they sign TK to a 8 year 9 mill contract it would be the same flyers bullpoop.
- PhillaBully

I agree about building on Michkov and hear you on TK, but I'll be shocked if they trade him and I fear the 8/9 contract. Although an 8/9 contract for TK would make for years of entertainment on HB! As for Coots and Laughts, I'd love to move them but I doubt anyone will take Coots and I don't think Laughts will land that much.

Just an example of a dumb ass that thinks he’s smarter than everybody. Definitely should’ve traded down if that’s your guy. No one was taking him that high.
- Stayin alive

Bill’s blog said the flyers tried to get to 16 but couldn’t make it work.

That is very very very true…. Could also be he simply had a hot streak and regresses next season and wouldn’t even have been a 1st round pick right?

I’m not hoping for any of that. I want him to hit a ceiling and a calling we aren’t even projecting. Again I can’t stand the reason db passed on zeev for but if that option wasn’t there I’d be fine with Jett pick
- Stayin alive

Which is why I said it could be a sneaky pick. I’m not saying everyone should bow down to this kid but to set the city on fire over this is crazy

They wanted demidov, lindstrom or d!ckinson. Jett could very well be a top draft prospect next year. If you’re not enamored with the other players it’s a fine pick.

Which is why I said it could be a sneaky pick. I’m not saying everyone should bow down to this kid but to set the city on fire over this is crazy
- anti-lame

Setting the city on fire is reserved for tk extension imo

They wanted demidov, lindstrom or d!ckinson. Jett could very well be a top draft prospect next year. If you’re not enamored with the other players it’s a fine pick.
- anti-lame

Here’s why most that pissed are so vocal.

They claim they need high end talent:

When the pick was made no one was claiming Jett has high end talent. No one

Some are saying zeev does.

That’s the problem right there. If you claim you need high end talent and potential high end drops in your lap you have to take that chance.

Put it this way there a more than decent chance that zeev floor is a bargain at 12 and his ceiling if possibly a steal of the draft.


Jetts floor decent chance a nice servicable player all situations maybe probably bottom 6 forward and ceiling probably a good all around 2c or 2w.


The floor for zeev there is a decent chance is as good as Jett ceiling and a decent chance his ceiling just make Philly look like absolute fools in a few years.


No one would’ve blamed them for taking zeev if he somehow bust out of league….

If Jett bust out it will follow db whole career especially if zeev hits ceiling.

Setting the city on fire is reserved for tk extension imo
- Stayin alive

I’ll understand it, won’t love it, but I will continue to live … somehow

Here’s why most that pissed are so vocal.

They claim they need high end talent:

When the pick was made no one was claiming Jett has high end talent. No one

Some are saying zeev does.

That’s the problem right there. If you claim you need high end talent and potential high end drops in your lap you have to take that chance.

Put it this way there a more than decent chance that zeev floor is a bargain at 12 and his ceiling if possibly a steal of the draft.


Jetts floor decent chance a nice servicable player all situations maybe probably bottom 6 forward and ceiling probably a good all around 2c or 2w.


The floor for zeev there is a decent chance is as good as Jett ceiling and a decent chance his ceiling just make Philly look like absolute fools in a few years.


No one would’ve blamed them for taking zeev if he somehow bust out of league….

If Jett bust out it will follow db whole career especially if zeev hits ceiling.
- Stayin alive

If he told us to (frank) off and he was also a college player, same agent as cutter, and others passed on him - it would be a fireable offense. Why not avoid that for a year. Why wasn’t he top 10 like he was supposed to be?

For every team there is a player they should have drafted

Here’s why most that pissed are so vocal.

They claim they need high end talent:

When the pick was made no one was claiming Jett has high end talent. No one

Some are saying zeev does.

That’s the problem right there. If you claim you need high end talent and potential high end drops in your lap you have to take that chance.

Put it this way there a more than decent chance that zeev floor is a bargain at 12 and his ceiling if possibly a steal of the draft.


Jetts floor decent chance a nice servicable player all situations maybe probably bottom 6 forward and ceiling probably a good all around 2c or 2w.


The floor for zeev there is a decent chance is as good as Jett ceiling and a decent chance his ceiling just make Philly look like absolute fools in a few years.


No one would’ve blamed them for taking zeev if he somehow bust out of league….

If Jett bust out it will follow db whole career especially if zeev hits ceiling.
- Stayin alive

And I’ll add to possibly make matters worse it’s well reported by many now that Philly wanted Richardenson but they got jumped by sj. If zeev turns out way better then Richardinson then there’s even more egg on philly face as not only did they pass on zeev but had the wrong d man targeted which leads to an even worse problem in decision making and projecting players. Just food for thought

If he told us to (frank) off and he was also a college player, same agent as cutter, and others passed on him - it would be a fireable offense. Why not avoid that for a year. Why wasn’t he top 10 like he was supposed to be?

For every team there is a player they should have drafted
- anti-lame

There were 5 possibly 6 dmen that could go round 1 projected…. Celibrini was #1 taj was projected top 10. Catton probably too. There were forwards especially centers projected top 10. There was gonna be a few to drop a few spots depending how draft went. Sennecke going 3 and yamachuk were surprises kinda top 10.


It wasn’t a knock for zeev to last until 12 or Richardinson 11. That happens every draft.

It’s like someone from this board wrote this article:

https://thehockeywriters....-repeating-past-failures/

It makes me 🤢 reading it.

https://thehockeywriters....-repeating-past-failures/

A very interesting read. Something most of us on this board will relate to.

Haha! I just posted the exact same article not seeing that someone else just did as well. Sorry for the duplicate!

After reading and then rereading this article, I have to admit I am very cranky. It crystallizes the frustration that many fans have with this organization and we’re reminded of that frustration as the year winded down. I just don’t get the excuse of having “too many similar sized players” when the mantra is usually, “you can never have enough depth” or “we need elite talent”. The part that really evokes anger is the part about a complete u willingness to part with roster players. Laughton and TK and others will never be a part of a Cup contender in Philly. Michkov may. Just seems so short-sighted, seems like the same ol same ol, and seems like those who don’t learn from the past are clearly doomed to repeat it.

To be fair, pretty much every expert on evaluating NHL talent has described Michkov as “elite” “special” “a star” or in similar terms. The Hockey News even called him the “next great Russian superstar.”

And then there’s the fact that he’s either broken, tied, or come close to breaking Russian records at his age for guys like Ovechkin, Malkin, Kucherov (just to name a few). And in the Covid-period Worlds Michkov (12G 4A) outscored Bedard (7G 7A). So Michkov is probably not a good example to use.
- mikeyo27

Yes, and to quote a great line from Linkin Park "We're buildin it up and burn it back down". I sincerely hope Michkov is a star, but I have also seen many of player built up to be the next great thing then fold under the pressure of the build up. It will be important for the Flyers to let Michkov develop here at his own pace, and if it takes a couple of years before he reaches that level then we have to be patient. But like all young kids, nothing is a guarantee.

It’s like someone from this board wrote this article:

https://thehockeywriters....-repeating-past-failures/

It makes me 🤢 reading it.
- coffee junkie

I read that yesterday….he’s not wrong in a lot of what he says.

After reading and then rereading this article, I have to admit I am very cranky. It crystallizes the frustration that many fans have with this organization and we’re reminded of that frustration as the year winded down. I just don’t get the excuse of having “too many similar sized players” when the mantra is usually, “you can never have enough depth” or “we need elite talent”. The part that really evokes anger is the part about a complete u willingness to part with roster players. Laughton and TK and others will never be a part of a Cup contender in Philly. Michkov may. Just seems so short-sighted, seems like the same ol same ol, and seems like those who don’t learn from the past are clearly doomed to repeat it.
- mikeyo27

It was a good article that articulated what a lot of fans including myself see. I was excited when they hired Hextall…but lost confidence in him as things went along and saw a guy that couldn’t adapt or figure out how to take a next step. I was less excited when Fletcher came in and after some early decisions it became apparent he was not a guy you would want anywhere near your team.
With Briere I must admit I bought into his rhetoric and was very hopeful we had found a good young exec who understood the new NHL and what needed to be done…but as the article points out his actions vastly differ from what he is saying. They are not rebuilding. They are not attempting to rebuild. Briere is looking like just another hire with name recognition that has no idea what he’s actually doing, but hoping things work out.
Unfortunately we are stuck with this guy…I have no doubt they will win some games and be more competitive, but as far as building this thing for the long term….he’s full of poop.

It was a good article that articulated what a lot of fans including myself see. I was excited when they hired Hextall…but lost confidence in him as things went along and saw a guy that couldn’t adapt or figure out how to take a next step. I was less excited when Fletcher came in and after some early decisions it became apparent he was not a guy you would want anywhere near your team.
With Briere I must admit I bought into his rhetoric and was very hopeful we had found a good young exec who understood the new NHL and what needed to be done…but as the article points out his actions vastly differ from what he is saying. They are not rebuilding. They are not attempting to rebuild. Briere is looking like just another hire with name recognition that has no idea what he’s actually doing, but hoping things work out.
Unfortunately we are stuck with this guy…I have no doubt they will win some games and be more competitive, but as far as building this thing for the long term….he’s full of poop.
- landros 2

you're not being fair here...free agency hasn't started. they have plenty of time to move out players. the mantra is it's all about the 2025 draft now they are planning for no? that is the focus.

danny boy is just getting started. only been on the job a little over a year. they have a great group of collaborators in that room. a great draft evaluator in flahr. be patient

Looks like quite an arms race is developing in the Atlantic Division. See if Briere can capitalize and add more assets in the future. Many mixed signals right now. Lots of assets for the next draft. Prospects drafted this weekend were very young from the draft class. Assume construct a team to get into top 5 for next draft. However, tradeable veteran assets like TK and Laughton still on the roster. Weird times.
- Trox88

Yeah as of now it's not a roster bad ccx enough to get in top 5 and the 3 Amigos are going to do what they can to make this a playoff bubble team guaranteed

The Flyers are operating under the principles, leadership and influence of John Tortorella. It's that simple.

Yes, and to quote a great line from Linkin Park "We're buildin it up and burn it back down". I sincerely hope Michkov is a star, but I have also seen many of player built up to be the next great thing then fold under the pressure of the build up. It will be important for the Flyers to let Michkov develop here at his own pace, and if it takes a couple of years before he reaches that level then we have to be patient. But like all young kids, nothing is a guarantee.
- jd250

He’s one of the few things to be excited about.

you're not being fair here...free agency hasn't started. they have plenty of time to move out players. the mantra is it's all about the 2025 draft now they are planning for no? that is the focus.

danny boy is just getting started. only been on the job a little over a year. they have a great group of collaborators in that room. a great draft evaluator in flahr. be patient
- hello it's me 2050

It’s like someone from this board wrote this article:

https://thehockeywriters....-repeating-past-failures/

It makes me 🤢 reading it.
- coffee junkie

They reached on players in the 2023 NHL Draft, took a lesser talent primarily because he had ties to the organization, and rarely traded roster players.

- what player was that?

The Flyers are operating under the principles, leadership and influence of John Tortorella. It's that simple.
- MJL

What a ridiculous statement. If this were true, where was Torts during the draft? Was he twirling his curly mustache from a hidden bunker directing Danny who to pick?