He’s one of the few things to be excited about.
- landros 2

There are a lot of things to be excited about other than Michkov. Watching the development of Bonk, Andrae and Luchenko for one. Three 1st round and three 2nd round picks in a deep 2025 draft. Seeing players like Tippet and Foerster take the next steps in their career. A lot to look forward to.

What a ridiculous statement. If this were true, where was Torts during the draft? Was he twirling his curly mustache from a hidden bunker directing Danny who to pick?
- jd250

You don't have the common sense or simple brain power to understand that someone does not have to be physically present to have great influence. The draft board isn't put together while at the draft.

There are a lot of things to be excited about other than Michkov. Watching the development of Bonk, Andrae and Luchenko for one. Three 1st round and three 2nd round picks in a deep 2025 draft. Seeing players like Tippet and Foerster take the next steps in their career. A lot to look forward to.
- jd250

The Flyers are well on their way to furthering their perpetual mediocrity and bubble team status.

There are a lot of things to be excited about other than Michkov. Watching the development of Bonk, Andrae and Luchenko for one. Three 1st round and three 2nd round picks in a deep 2025 draft. Seeing players like Tippet and Foerster take the next steps in their career. A lot to look forward to.
- jd250

love the entertainment value you bring every day. I really do.

those players you mention every other team has in spades.

Here’s why most that pissed are so vocal.

They claim they need high end talent:

When the pick was made no one was claiming Jett has high end talent. No one

Some are saying zeev does.

That’s the problem right there. If you claim you need high end talent and potential high end drops in your lap you have to take that chance.

Put it this way there a more than decent chance that zeev floor is a bargain at 12 and his ceiling if possibly a steal of the draft.


Jetts floor decent chance a nice servicable player all situations maybe probably bottom 6 forward and ceiling probably a good all around 2c or 2w.


The floor for zeev there is a decent chance is as good as Jett ceiling and a decent chance his ceiling just make Philly look like absolute fools in a few years.


No one would’ve blamed them for taking zeev if he somehow bust out of league….

If Jett bust out it will follow db whole career especially if zeev hits ceiling.
- Stayin alive

The Flyers did not draft Luchenko to be a bottom 6 forward. The fact that Luchenko was quickly rising on team's draft boards is a testiment that many felt like Briere and Flahr that this kid is just scratching the surface of what he can be. After the first half of the year, sure maybe scouts felt like his ceiling was a 3C. But clearly after the season completed many felt his ceiling was a lot higher. The Flyers are not stupid folks. They would not have passed on Buium if they didn't feel Luchenko had the potential to be a top center. I think many of you just want to female dog for the sake of female doging.

You don't have the common sense or simple brain power to understand that someone does not have to be physically present to have great influence. The draft board isn't put together while at the draft.
- MJL

Do you really think torts is saying what plyers to draft? do you really think he is in those draft meetings offering insight on these draft eligible players who he has probably never seen or a few times at best?

The Flyers did not draft Luchenko to be a bottom 6 forward. The fact that Luchenko was quickly rising on team's draft boards is a testiment that many felt like Briere and Flahr that this kid is just scratching the surface of what he can be. After the first half of the year, sure maybe scouts felt like his ceiling was a 3C. But clearly after the season completed many felt his ceiling was a lot higher. The Flyers are not stupid folks. They would not have passed on Buium if they didn't feel Luchenko had the potential to be a top center. I think many of you just want to female dog for the sake of female doging.
- jd250

just like you want swallow for the sake of swallowing.

flyers must be the only ones who think he can be a #1 center.

Do you really think torts is saying what plyers to draft? do you really think he is in those draft meetings offering insight on these draft eligible players who he has probably never seen or a few times at best?
- hello it's me 2050

I know ... his premise is pure stupidity. This is what he has become, he has run out of ideas it seems. Torts is somewhere in upstate NY playing with this pit bulls. He could care less about the draft and he has said so many times.

just like you want swallow for the sake of swallowing.

flyers must be the only ones who think he can be a #1 center.
- hello it's me 2050

They clearly were not. A few teams were looking to pick Luchenko in the top 20.

I know ... his premise is pure stupidity. This is what he has become, he has run out of ideas it seems. Torts is somewhere in upstate NY playing with this pit bulls. He could care less about the draft and he has said so many times.
- jd250

as is yours to think he isn't offering up some type of opinion.

my belief is he is telling the "staff" these are the traits, qualities, and what not that I want in a player. not player specific mind you.

The Flyers did not draft Luchenko to be a bottom 6 forward. The fact that Luchenko was quickly rising on team's draft boards is a testiment that many felt like Briere and Flahr that this kid is just scratching the surface of what he can be. After the first half of the year, sure maybe scouts felt like his ceiling was a 3C. But clearly after the season completed many felt his ceiling was a lot higher. The Flyers are not stupid folks. They would not have passed on Buium if they didn't feel Luchenko had the potential to be a top center. I think many of you just want to female dog for the sake of female doging.
- jd250

Your thinking is badly flawed and formed from your absurd and unearned level of optimism and trust that you give the Flyers. It is true that nobody really knows at this point what the outcome will be. However the entire scouting world sees the player different than the Flyers do. Maybe they're right but maybe they're wrong. We do know that based on all available information, the Flyers reasoning on this pick is tragically flawed if not down right stupid.

I’ll give kudos to DB for trying to move up and get who they wanted. I thought the price was to steep so I can’t complain for them not pulling the trigger.
I would have picked ZB.
If ZB becomes the next Makar the flyers are going to look pretty stupid.
It’s not a guarantee that Andrea or Drysdale hit their potential.
If they do well they can trade what they have depth in to help get a need.
If Luchenko hits his potential then the pick will be a good one.
It’s not the kids fault so I’ll root for him.
It does leave no wiggle room for DB. He can’t extend TK now or they will look completely inept.

The Flyers are well on their way to furthering their perpetual mediocrity and bubble team status.
- MJL

I see, so the rebuild is a farce, right? Six picks in a deep draft next year is a farce also? Just same ol' same ol' trying to win now, right? I can't wait for the Flyers to stick it in your face when they rebuild this team and contend for real year after year.

There are a lot of things to be excited about other than Michkov. Watching the development of Bonk, Andrae and Luchenko for one. Three 1st round and three 2nd round picks in a deep 2025 draft. Seeing players like Tippet and Foerster take the next steps in their career. A lot to look forward to.
- jd250

No offence I just saw Briere in action with two 1rst round picks….I’m hardly excited to see what he does with next years.

They clearly were not. A few teams were looking to pick Luchenko in the top 20.
- jd250

you are assuming they those teams think he can be a #1 center. just because they wanted to move up doesn't mean they had the same expectations.

also if those teams really thought that then would have moved up.

the flyers could have drafted someone who wasn't even ranked, and you would be slobbering all over the pick.

cant wait to hear your spin when free agency starts tomorrow, and we see what the flyers do. you will be 99.9 behind every move they make or dont make.

I see, so the rebuild is a farce, right? Six picks in a deep draft next year is a farce also? Just same ol' same ol' trying to win now, right? I can't wait for the Flyers to stick it in your face when they rebuild this team and contend for real year after year.
- jd250

It is a farce. It’s non existent. Every team in the NHL drafts players every year at the draft…are they rebuilding? Part of a rebuild is moving out current valued played players for younger guys or future assets something the Flyers refuse or are incapable off doing….sure they trade a guy like Walker…throw a little nugget out there so they can say to the fan base “see what we are doing…our rebuild is in full swing” . Those moves hardly constitute an actual rebuild.

I see, so the rebuild is a farce, right? Six picks in a deep draft next year is a farce also? Just same ol' same ol' trying to win now, right? I can't wait for the Flyers to stick it in your face when they rebuild this team and contend for real year after year.
- jd250

yes it is, how can you rebuild something that was never rebuilt?

they have 6 picks now. there is a possibility some are moved no? also despite you saying otherwise the flyers have not done a good job under flahr. the results speak for themselves.

when do you think they will contend for real? any specific year?

Your thinking is badly flawed and formed from your absurd and unearned level of optimism and trust that you give the Flyers. It is true that nobody really knows at this point what the outcome will be. However the entire scouting world sees the player different than the Flyers do. Maybe they're right but maybe they're wrong. We do know that based on all available information, the Flyers reasoning on this pick is tragically flawed if not down right stupid.
- MJL

Unearned? Flahr and his team has done a good job drafting players for the Flyers. They know oodles more about what they see than you or I could ever read about or watch in highlights. There is so much in evaluating a player, way more than just their on ice performance, which BTW Luchenko went from 14pts to 74pts in a single OHL season. There is the coaches evalautions, interviews and combines also. Even Button had the Flyers picking Luchenko at 12 and he is part time now. You're right, no one knows what this kid will be in 3-5 years; he is only 17 years old. But for you and others to say the Flyers are flawed in downright comical. You are not part of the scouting staff watching these players over several months, and neither am I. Flahr has brought a good amount of NHL talent to the Flyers via the draft since he has been here, and I have faith he picked the right player for the Flyers and the type of team they want to build.

I know ... his premise is pure stupidity. This is what he has become, he has run out of ideas it seems. Torts is somewhere in upstate NY playing with this pit bulls. He could care less about the draft and he has said so many times.
- jd250

With the public record and your posting history. Your disagreement is great evidence that I'm on the something. We can review every past disagreement that you and I have had and the record will show that I have been right, and you have been wrong. About 98% of the time. Highlighted by you proclaiming that Fletcher put the team "on the definition of the path to Cup" when he acquired Ellis, Ristolainen and Atkinson. While I told you within a very short time period that the moves were far more likely to hurt the Flyers than helped them. Ellis played a few games and is on full time LTIR. Atkinson was mediocre and faded while now being bought out. Ristolainen is a mediocre, overpaid 3rd pair defenseman. You have shown zero ability to accurately assessing anything in the game of hockey. You have zero hockey knowledge, zero intelligencen and zero common sense. The only thing you can do is read or watch a podcast and then echo what you're told or read.

They clearly were not. A few teams were looking to pick Luchenko in the top 20.
- jd250

So says Briere…because we can trust what he tells us.

It was a good article that articulated what a lot of fans including myself see. I was excited when they hired Hextall…but lost confidence in him as things went along and saw a guy that couldn’t adapt or figure out how to take a next step. I was less excited when Fletcher came in and after some early decisions it became apparent he was not a guy you would want anywhere near your team.
With Briere I must admit I bought into his rhetoric and was very hopeful we had found a good young exec who understood the new NHL and what needed to be done…but as the article points out his actions vastly differ from what he is saying. They are not rebuilding. They are not attempting to rebuild. Briere is looking like just another hire with name recognition that has no idea what he’s actually doing, but hoping things work out.
Unfortunately we are stuck with this guy…I have no doubt they will win some games and be more competitive, but as far as building this thing for the long term….he’s full of poop.
- landros 2

This reminds me of the 1st round of the Eagles draft in 2020. I hate to bust on Roseman but even with all the good things he's done he has had some real head scratchers. They wanted a #1 WR but just had a horrible process for picking them. They had a consensus best WR left no brainer on the board. The Eagles went with fit over what every commentator, mock drafters, and fans thought was the obvious pick. The "no brainer" WR was picked immediately afterward.

The WR they passed on was Justin Jefferson (who is arguably the #1 WR in the NFL for those who don't follow football) for the "better fit" guy and the team with the next pick burst out laughing.

https://www.crossingbroad...o-draft-jalen-reagor.html

Hopefully this works out better than that pick, although going off the board for WRs 2 straight years (JJAW over DK Metcalf is the other) and failing spectacularly caused the eagles to make an organizational change on how they draft so long term they helped the team indirectly but what could've been.

The odds of Jett ending up better than Buium are slim but not 0. If you asked 100 people who the better long term prospect is and 2 of them were from the Flyers front office it would most likely be 98-2 Buium. Unlike the NFL, the NHL players aren't expected to be in the lineup the following year so things can still change but Briere pretty much admitted he drafted for need instead of BPA.

Unearned? Flahr and his team has done a good job drafting players for the Flyers. They know oodles more about what they see than you or I could ever read about or watch in highlights. There is so much in evaluating a player, way more than just their on ice performance, which BTW Luchenko went from 14pts to 74pts in a single OHL season. There is the coaches evalautions, interviews and combines also. Even Button had the Flyers picking Luchenko at 12 and he is part time now. You're right, no one knows what this kid will be in 3-5 years; he is only 17 years old. But for you and others to say the Flyers are flawed in downright comical. You are not part of the scouting staff watching these players over several months, and neither am I. Flahr has brought a good amount of NHL talent to the Flyers via the draft since he has been here, and I have faith he picked the right player for the Flyers and the type of team they want to build.
- jd250

If the scouting staff is so top notch ? Why do we suck year after year?

I see, so the rebuild is a farce, right? Six picks in a deep draft next year is a farce also? Just same ol' same ol' trying to win now, right? I can't wait for the Flyers to stick it in your face when they rebuild this team and contend for real year after year.
- jd250

Yes, the rebuild is a complete farce. How many times have you said you can't wait for it to be stuck in my face?


How many times does it have to be stuck in your face for you to realize that you're clueless?

yes it is, how can you rebuild something that was never rebuilt?

they have 6 picks now. there is a possibility some are moved no? also despite you saying otherwise the flyers have not done a good job under flahr. the results speak for themselves.

when do you think they will contend for real? any specific year?
- hello it's me 2050

If I was Briere and Jones, I would want the Flyers to take a step back this season in the standings so they can get a top 10 pick in a deep draft. I would also be willing to use the picks I have to move up to get a player (though we have seen how reluctant teams are to trade picks in the 1st round) or as part of a hockey trade to get a younger player with a high ceiling that becomes available. The point is the Flyers have valuable assets now they if they use wisely can greatly accelerate their path to contention. As Jones stated earlier, next year is a very important year for the Flyers and they have to get it right.

This reminds me of the 1st round of the Eagles draft in 2020. I hate to bust on Roseman but even with all the good things he's done he has had some real head scratchers. They wanted a #1 WR but just had a horrible process for picking them. They had a consensus best WR left no brainer on the board. The Eagles went with fit over what every commentator, mock drafters, and fans thought was the obvious pick. The "no brainer" WR was picked immediately afterward.

The WR they passed on was Justin Jefferson (who is arguably the #1 WR in the NFL for those who don't follow football) for the "better fit" guy and the team with the next pick burst out laughing.

https://www.crossingbroad...o-draft-jalen-reagor.html

Hopefully this works out better than that pick, although going off the board for WRs 2 straight years (JJAW over DK Metcalf is the other) and failing spectacularly caused the eagles to make an organizational change on how they draft so long term they helped the team indirectly but what could've been.

The odds of Jett ending up better than Buium are slim but not 0. If you asked 100 people who the better long term prospect is and 2 of them were from the Flyers front office it would most likely be 98-2 Buium. Unlike the NFL, the NHL players aren't expected to be in the lineup the following year so things can still change but Briere pretty much admitted he drafted for need instead of BPA.
- Flyers_01

Teams that draft well are successful for the most part…teams that can’t aren’t. I like Luchanko…but I think they had better options at 12. A team that lacks talent has no business reaching for guys that high in the draft. And that’s what they did.