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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 11:49 AM ET
At least 2025 is shaping up to be a franchise defining draft
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
What would you call getting swept and getting outscored 18-9 in the process? A competitive series?
- bmeltzer


lol just seemed like a very violent image. have you ever seen anyone actually get curb stomped? teeth go flying
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
The only question I am asking myself when July 1st rolls around...

"Did the Flyers become a better team for the future?"

"Is the future 2075?"
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 11:50 AM ET
Luchanko also scored very high at the Columbine. (#1 in Left and Right hand Strength) I think he was in the top 4 in 5 catagories. He seems like he has a high motor and is dedicated. Reminds me a bit of a Brind'amour with speed. Everyone is developing and the Flyers might have caught a fast riser before his ceiling is hit. I agree that we need to wait and see on this one. But at least if Danny did reach on this pick, he had the sense to pick up some extra assets as he moved down.
- flylerid

maybe he can arm wrestle?

love to see some stats that show the top combine performance testing results and how it applies to who did what in the nhl
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 11:51 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: 2024: Draft Day 2
- bmeltzer

Bill seeing what happened with Cutter, dd that make them a little gun shy on taking a college kid that high?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:53 AM ET
At least 2025 is shaping up to be a franchise defining draft
- Just5


If the strategy is to get as many assets as possible for 2025 to grab an elite franchise player then yes that seems to be the case, but....


If the Flyers re-sign TK and feel they can make the playoffs next year that strategy just got flushed in the toilet.

I swear the Flyers play this game on purpose, make a move that shows one thing then counteract it with another to make it null & void then continue the cycle to milk the fanbase.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 29 @ 11:53 AM ET
https://x.com/frank_serav...vppRkX6d8PcfGi-wsFnQ&s=19

Kevin Hayes traded to the Pens. This is not a drill.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 11:55 AM ET
https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1807078637541163291?t=iBvppRkX6d8PcfGi-wsFnQ&s=19

Kevin Hayes traded to the Pens. This is not a drill.

- Trox88


And the Pens just got Tanner Howe, he should be annoying to play against. Great!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jun 29 @ 11:55 AM ET
The only question I am asking myself when July 1st rolls around...

"Did the Flyers become a better team for the future?"

"Is the future 2075?"

- Glak18

People on here complain about the team trying to go for it, then they make moves for 3-5 years out and you complain? This team is nowhere near contending, why is the timeline now an issue?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 11:55 AM ET
https://x.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1807078173911486507?t=wR5WTM3NB1_4v07zQE1kng&s=19

Wow, Sergachev to Utah.

- Trox88

who is the flyers equal to geekie and moser?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 29 @ 11:56 AM ET
1) Saying there were more exciting options they weren't able to take happen (which is the truth) and that I liked 1-2 existing options better is a funny form of "propaganda".

2) Saying that I'm not going to rush to judge and understanding how unpredictable drafting and developing is also TRUTH.

3) Another truth: You're on my last nerve. I detest knee-jerk morons who only read into something what they want to read into it. Have no time or patience for such people. Unfortunately, we don't have an "ignore" feature here.

- bmeltzer


Sorry I struck a nerve, but you just keep on defending this joke of a franchise. As someone who is quite a bit older than you and has followed the Flyers since the early 70s, I find the current management team to be woefully lacking. Also no one with a shred of objectivity can defend the performance of the Flyers organization over the last decade.

Finally, if you want to sink to name calling, have at it. It only shows your lack of class.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
who is the flyers equal to geekie and moser?
- hello it's me 2050


I'm just surprised the Bolts would move Sergachev to sign Stamkos, possibly. Kind of figured they would try and trade for an LTIR contract to replace the Seabrook contract. They got weaker on the blueline in "win now" mode. Interesting moves.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:00 PM ET
People on here complain about the team trying to go for it, then they make moves for 3-5 years out and you complain? This team is nowhere near contending, why is the timeline now an issue?
- ClaudeFather


The timeline is an issue? I'm complaining for making future moves?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:01 PM ET
I'm just surprised the Bolts would move Sergachev to sign Stamkos, possibly. Kind of figured they would try and trade for an LTIR contract to replace the Seabrook contract. They got weaker on the blueline in "win now" mode. Interesting moves.
- Trox88


Now it makes sense why Utah drafted centers
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:04 PM ET
Ok another center for the Phantoms...they must really think their defense is set or....please no they are going to trade for or sign a high price D.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 12:05 PM ET
Ok another center for the Phantoms...they must really think their defense is set or....please no they are going to trade for or sign a high price D.
- Glak18

hasnt played a lot of games the last 3 years (50 total). Wonder why?
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:10 PM ET
We don't know how drafting Jett will work out, but fingers crossed. I do like trading the 32nd pick to the Oilers for next years 1st round pick. There was nobody that stood out at #32. Next years draft is supposed to be stronger, so even if the Oilers win the cup and the Flyers get the 32nd pick again, there should be better talent to choose from. That will give the Flyers 3 1st round picks next year. Only time will tell on how DB uses those picks?
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Jun 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
another reach. Really awful work done by the Flyers. Complete waste of a draft and tons of dead weight still on the roster. As good as last season’s draft was, is how bad this one is. Briere’s honeymoon period is over, and he isn’t moving the needle.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:12 PM ET
Tampa has cleared $11.5 mil in what felt like a few minutes

Edit: *but trades are hard
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:13 PM ET
Worst case scenario: Buium becomes the next Quinn Hughes and Luchenko the next JOB

Best case scenario: Buium isn’t all that and Jett blows it up in Guelph next year and everyone says they missed the boat on this next potentially elite center.

It’s true we don’t know and I for one only know what other people say. The disappointment comes not from personal observation and knowledge for me, but from dozens and dozens of mock drafts and prospect profiles by people who know this stuff better than me. Add that to the fact that I’m a lifetime Flyers fan who has come to generally expect the worst case scenario and things not panning out… well the best I can do it hope (as usual) and keep expectations low.

Who knows, maybe he will become Toews to Michkovs Kane

- mikeyo27


its irrelevant what happens to buium now, its done. Except for you guys that will bring this up for years, because you never want to look at anything positive.
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jun 29 @ 12:13 PM ET
all the draft experts in here feigning outrage over not picking kids they just learned about last week. hysterical. i bet most have not watched a single game of any of these guys.

if they spent the assets to move up people would be upset too. There were 3 guys they wanted that got taken before they were up. i don't have a problem with this pick since he seems to be a physical specimen compared to older players at the combine. he might have been lower on many lists because he's younger and only recently moved into a bigger role on his team (so smaller sample size) but with him taking on more responsibility came a 60 point increase. time will tell but it could be a sneaky good pick. he missed the age cutoff by, what? 3 weeks? perhaps would have gone a lot higher next year with a bit more seasoning.

i'm also seeing a lot of folks completely down on Drysdale for some reason. he was a top 5 pick. he just turned 22. I understand the injury history but it's not enough to completely dismiss the kid. plenty of players overcome injuries early on and are fine. give him a full healthy year here before rushing to judgement. If he ends up being as good as advertised then this years pick makes more sense.

perhaps they asked Rizzo about Buium?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
Tampa has cleared $11.5 mil in what felt like a few minutes

Edit: *but trades are hard

- funmaster18

who else they trade?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jun 29 @ 12:15 PM ET
all the draft experts in here feigning outrage over not picking kids they just learned about last week. hysterical. i bet most have not watched a single game of any of these guys.

if they spent the assets to move up people would be upset too. There were 3 guys they wanted that got taken before they were up. i don't have a problem with this pick since he seems to be a physical specimen compared to older players at the combine. he might have been lower on many lists because he's younger and only recently moved into a bigger role on his team (so smaller sample size) but with him taking on more responsibility came a 60 point increase. time will tell but it could be a sneaky good pick. he missed the age cutoff by, what? 3 weeks? perhaps would have gone a lot higher next year with a bit more seasoning.

i'm also seeing a lot of folks completely down on Drysdale for some reason. he was a top 5 pick. he just turned 22. I understand the injury history but it's not enough to completely dismiss the kid. plenty of players overcome injuries early on and are fine. give him a full healthy year here before rushing to judgement. If he ends up being as good as advertised then this years pick makes more sense.

perhaps they asked Rizzo about Buium?

- anti-lame

can you confirm anything today?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:15 PM ET
who else they trade?
- hello it's me 2050


Jeannot
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jun 29 @ 12:16 PM ET
who else they trade?
- hello it's me 2050


Jennot to LA. The guy they basically traded an emtire draft class a few years ago
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