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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 5 @ 5:46 PM ET
Did you look at his career total instead of last season?

https://www.nhl.com/sabre...layer/ryan-mcleod-8480802

- kingcong39

I know he was 50.8% last year, but that's not steady yet.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 5:47 PM ET
Thanks! So he doesn't win 51%, his average is 49% and I like he's good Defensively. But Savoie should have been used for Top 6 Help, not bottom 6.
- Buff36


You would not like to read what the league thought of Savoie in terms of value.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 5 @ 5:49 PM ET
You would not like to read what the league thought of Savoie in terms of value.
- kingcong39

No, I am not surprised. And I hope this kid works. But really have done nothing to replace the Offense we lost.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 5:49 PM ET
I know he was 50.8% last year, but that's not steady yet.
- Buff36


How many 24/25 year olds are already consistently over 50% on faceoffs?

It's a learned skill, especially with all the shenanigans that go in the league on faceoffs.

They were paranoid about a veteran player saying yes and then not giving a (frank) on the ice.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 5 @ 5:50 PM ET
How many 24/25 year olds are already consistently over 50% on faceoffs?

It's a learned skill, especially with all the shenanigans that go in the league on faceoffs.

They were paranoid about a veteran player saying yes and then not giving a (frank) on the ice.

- kingcong39

Like I said I hope he works and Flourishes.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jul 5 @ 5:53 PM ET
You would not like to read what the league thought of Savoie in terms of value.
- kingcong39


Twitter thinks we gave up Mcdavid type prospect for a 3C
sgk56
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.16.2019

Jul 5 @ 5:57 PM ET
Your trading a highly skilled offensive prospect for a defensive 3C.

People love points. Savoie got a lot in Junior.

- DirtyDan[/quote
Right, isnt Savoie just one of those tiny soft forwards amoungst many of same prospects we already have??
And if I recall has a bum shoulder??
And we got an established NHL player that we need!!
Shadman306
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
Twitter thinks we gave up Mcdavid type prospect for a 3C
- Sabretooth9


I’ve never once thought savoie was going to be a difference maker, maybe playing him with mcdavid gets him the Hyman boost but he wouldn’t hit that production in Buffalo and we already have a few of him in the pipeline.

I’ve also pretty much always wanted McLeod and I hope his desire to play with speed and in the hard areas is contagious.
Shadman306
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jul 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
[quote=DirtyDan]Your trading a highly skilled offensive prospect for a defensive 3C.

People love points. Savoie got a lot in Junior.

- sgk56[/quote
Right, isnt Savoie just one of those tiny soft forwards amoungst many of same prospects we already have??
And if I recall has a bum shoulder??
And we got an established NHL player that we need!!


Nylander 2.0. Savoie is the same perimeter player
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:04 PM ET
Twitter thinks we gave up Mcdavid type prospect for a 3C
- Sabretooth9


The Sabres have been awful and the Oilers were in the SCF so of course the Sabres are going to get dunked on but they traded a prospect from a position of strength for a need
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:05 PM ET
what the (frank)
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:07 PM ET
It’s a shame the NHL took out the conditions on a pick in a trade if a player signs an extension. Ehlers would probably be a Sabre by now.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:08 PM ET
The Sabres have been awful and the Oilers were in the SCF so of course the Sabres are going to get dunked on but they traded a prospect from a position of strength for a need
- Hank Balling


You needed a 25 year old who, at his absolute peak, is a speedy 40 point PK guy?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:09 PM ET
You needed a 25 year old who, at his absolute peak, is a speedy 40 point PK guy?
- BINGO!


Desperately.

They couldn't go into a season with Krebs and Lafferty as their center depth.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:10 PM ET
You needed a 25 year old who, at his absolute peak, is a speedy 40 point PK guy?
- BINGO!


Yes actually they needed a 3C who can fly and is good defensively.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:12 PM ET
Twitter thinks we gave up Mcdavid type prospect for a 3C
- Sabretooth9


Not McDavid level but like DeBrincat sort of thing? The dude had 71 points in 34 games in junior this year. That's absolutely nuts.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:12 PM ET
Not McDavid level but like DeBrincat sort of thing? The dude had 71 points in 34 games in junior this year. That's absolutely nuts.
- BINGO!


And an overager. There’s a reason he didn’t make Team Canada’s world junior roster. He’s still a good prospect but to he is far from a sure thing.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:12 PM ET
Desperately.

They couldn't go into a season with Krebs and Lafferty as their center depth.

- Hank Balling


I mean there are other guys out there.

I just don't understand giving up one of the best forward prospects in the league for a role player.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:13 PM ET
Not McDavid level but like DeBrincat sort of thing? The dude had 71 points in 34 games in junior this year. That's absolutely nuts.
- BINGO!


He was like 6 days away from being juniors ineligible this year - he was always going to look dominant
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:13 PM ET
And an overager. There’s a reason he didn’t make Team Canada’s world junior roster. He’s still a good prospect but to he is far from a sure thing.
- Stripes77


I watched an awful lot of him in person this year and I can tell you he is easily one of the most talented forwards I have ever seen in the WHL.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:14 PM ET
Not McDavid level but like DeBrincat sort of thing? The dude had 71 points in 34 games in junior this year. That's absolutely nuts.
- BINGO!

In his D+2 season.

Hes an overage junior player.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:15 PM ET
He was like 6 days away from being juniors ineligible this year - he was always going to look dominant
- Hank Balling


He's still eligible to play Jr next season as a 20 year old.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:15 PM ET
I mean there are other guys out there.

I just don't understand giving up one of the best forward prospects in the league for a role player.

- BINGO!


And the Sabres have 3 other first-round center prospects

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:16 PM ET
In his D+2 season.

Hes an overage junior player.

- ImThatGuy


90 in 65 in his draft year.
95 in 62 as an 18-19 year old

You can downplay it all you want he's still a top top end prospect
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:16 PM ET
He's still eligible to play Jr next season as a 20 year old.
- BINGO!


No he’s not.

Edit you are correct but he’s already 20. He will be in the AHL
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