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Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 5 @ 6:34 PM ET
Savoie's value league wide wasn't what people here would think.
- kingcong39

Done, just gotta hope he fits now. Sabres need to take advantage of all this Speed in there plans.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 5 @ 6:34 PM ET
Give ya great deal on a Jack Drury or Jesperi Kotkaniemi
- BINGO!

Actually would have liked Drury
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:35 PM ET
You mean small wingers aren't what NHL gm's are looking for after watching that stanley cup final?

I'm baffled
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 5 @ 6:35 PM ET
Rhino, I am captain pessimism but McLeod is exactly what this team needed at 3C. Now go get a top-6 wing and this team will actually be fun
- Hank Balling


Honestly, I just don't see it. I think we gave up a lot for a little all off-season. If that trend continues the pipe will be gone quick without having acquired any high impact players at all. McLeod is a 3-4C to me and doesn't move the needle much. We need a big time point getter and you just traded away one of your best chips.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:35 PM ET
Give ya great deal on a Jack Drury or Jesperi Kotkaniemi
- BINGO!


He said offense
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
But you have no money
- DirtyDan


Canes have $12 million in cap space right now with a bunch of guys counting that are going to be buried in the AHL next year.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:36 PM ET
He said offense
- DirtyDan



shhhhhhhh
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 5 @ 6:37 PM ET
Savoie's value league wide wasn't what people here would think.
- kingcong39


Weren't there a few just saying these developed prospects were worth much more than we think?

This is catastrophically bad value.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:38 PM ET
Canes have $12 million in cap space right now with a bunch of guys counting that are going to be buried in the AHL next year.
- BINGO!


Jarvis is going to cost you what 8-10 ? You can't pay Necas what he wants IMO. Or you lose Anti Niemi
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Honestly, I just don't see it. I think we gave up a lot for a little all off-season. If that trend continues the pipe will be gone quick without having acquired any high impact players at all. McLeod is a 3-4C to me and doesn't move the needle much. We need a big time point getter and you just traded away one of your best chips.
- RhinoFan


1. What have we given up this offseason? We have 5 - 6 very nice prospects, we gave up one of them as well as a second.

2. We still have a treasure trove of assets to move when the prices come down


Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Honestly, I just don't see it. I think we gave up a lot for a little all off-season. If that trend continues the pipe will be gone quick without having acquired any high impact players at all. McLeod is a 3-4C to me and doesn't move the needle much. We need a big time point getter and you just traded away one of your best chips.
- RhinoFan


The NHL team's roster makes way more sense today than it did yesterday. I wish Savoie well but they have a drought to break and he wasn't going to contribute to that endeavor. Now go get Ehlers and it will be a Good Day™️
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Jul 5 @ 6:39 PM ET
Weren't there a few just saying these developed prospects were worth much more than we think?

This is catastrophically bad value.

- Lunaion


Or you guys are under valuing a legit high motor 3C... Watch the Stanley Cup final again and then tell what you think NHL Gm's value at this point in time...



Copy cat league
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
Jarvis is going to cost you what 8-10 ? You can't pay Necas what he wants IMO. Or you lose Anti Niemi
- DirtyDan


huh?

Niemi?

They aren't paying Necas. He's being traded. He wants out.

They're trying to package him with Drury or Kotkaniemi and other stuff for a guy to play 2C.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
1. What have we given up this offseason? We have 5 - 6 very nice prospects, we gave up one of them as well as a second.

2. We still have a treasure trove of assets to move when the prices come down

- Slump Buster


Looking at it.

An early second + Savoie for a 4th liner and 3C is not really good value at all.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:40 PM ET
Why is the trade an overpay on the Sabres part? Legit question.
- TC4145


it is if you believe in savoie's ceiling.

the sabres should be done with this line of thinking. finally, commendable work by adams.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 5 @ 6:41 PM ET
huh?

Niemi?

They aren't paying Necas. He's being traded. He wants out.

They're trying to package him with Drury or Kotkaniemi and other stuff for a guy to play 2C.

- BINGO!

We’ve got a Peyton Krebs. He plays C
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:41 PM ET
Brutal deal, straight to UFA. Must have had no trade value at all.


@CMDeDominicis
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More news…Sabres announce they’ve re-signed Henri Jokiharju to a one year deal with $3.1 million.

- Lunaion


I asked the people at CapFriendly a while ago about Jokiharju, and they said his Chicago season does not count towards his UFA eligibility.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:41 PM ET
Good size, good on the dot (51%), young (24).

Good job, Kevyn.

You all wanted an overpay, but I think this is a fair trade.

- Powerslave


I think it is too. disappointing we dont see savoie in rochester, but fair. high impact today middle six c.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
Weren't there a few just saying these developed prospects were worth much more than we think?

This is catastrophically bad value.

- Lunaion


We moved a guy whose ceiling is middle 6 for a guy who is at least a very good two-way 3C. What exactly did you think we were getting for Savoie? Him being gone isn't going to make or break our chances for a second line wing.

I was also reading that our bottom 6 is probably now the fastest in the league. That doesn't suck.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:42 PM ET
Don't get this one...right to UFA like you said
- Stripes77


You sure about that...?

https://puckpedia.com/player/henri-jokiharju
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 5 @ 6:44 PM ET


shhhhhhhh

- BINGO!

Drury is younger and has almost matched McCloud point wise and he's already 54% on the Dot
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 5 @ 6:44 PM ET
Looking at it.

An early second + Savoie for a 4th liner and 3C is not really good value at all.

- ImThatGuy


Look at it another way. Winnipeg is supposedly asking for 3 Savoies and something else for Ehlers. The price for Zegras or Necas is going to be similar. I am shocked that some of you think that Savoie is more than he is: a middle 6 PROSPECT.

(it also isn't lost on me that we are in some bizarro world where I am arguing to trade the prospects and others are trying to put on the breaks)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 5 @ 6:45 PM ET
Yikes.

That draft day trade doesn’t look great right now for Malenstyn.

I could see UPL getting a large award.

- ImThatGuy


standard protocol for most arb rfas. they'll settle them before the meetings. probably.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jul 5 @ 6:47 PM ET
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