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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
Detroit signed Gustafson 2 x 2
- Jeremy Laura

Ghost replacement.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
Lagersson, Gustafsson, who the hell are these people?
Anymore lowly Swedes out there to pick up on the "cheap"?
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:56 PM ET
My only real complaint about Talbot is that the Leafs got Stolarz for the exact same term and AAV.

Talbot's more proven I suppose but you're betting on a guy holding it together over his age 37 and 38 seasons, which is dicey (see Greiss, Thomas).

That said, I'm fine with $2.5m and I'm fine with going into the season basically with three backups. It's not exactly exciting but it's a better option than overpaying an old starter who is only marginally better.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
My only real complaint about Talbot is that the Leafs got Stolarz for the exact same term and AAV.

Talbot's more proven I suppose but you're betting on a guy holding it together over his age 37 and 38 seasons, which is dicey (see Greiss, Thomas).

That said, I'm fine with $2.5m and I'm fine with going into the season basically with three backups. It's not exactly exciting but it's a better option than overpaying an old starter who is only marginally better.

- Sven22

Stolarz has more upside but who says he wants to come to Detroit.
Ryan_Nicklaus89
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.04.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
Lagersson, Gustafsson, who the hell are these people?
Anymore lowly Swedes out there to pick up on the "cheap"?

- StargateSG1


I personally have always been a fan of Gustafsson - or at least always thought he was a bit better than people give him credit for. Should be a decent Bottom pair, PP/PP2 guy
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:03 PM ET
Stolarz has more upside but who says he wants to come to Detroit.
- Feds91Stammer


Yeah, I get that. Mostly just bemoaning the fact that I think the Leafs got better value here. Not that I think Yzerman could/should have done anything different.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:06 PM ET
I personally have always been a fan of Gustafsson - or at least always thought he was a bit better than people give him credit for. Should be a decent Bottom pair, PP/PP2 guy
- Ryan_Nicklaus89

Gustafson is a great ghost replacement. Better 5v5 and can hold down pp2 while Seider takes pp1 back.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:07 PM ET
Ghost replacement.
- Feds91Stammer


All Yzerman had to do it trade Walman and a 2nd for nothing to sign this guy.

Yzerman better have something major working behind the scenes because the defense is worst and so is the offense so far from last season. Not impressed at all with Yzerman unless the goal is a top 10 draft pick next summer.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
All Yzerman had to do it trade Walman and a 2nd for nothing to sign this guy.

Yzerman better have something major working behind the scenes because the defense is worst and so is the offense so far from last season. Not impressed at all with Yzerman unless the goal is a top 10 draft pick next summer.

- dcz28

Walman trade still makes zero sense at this point.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Jul 1 @ 2:13 PM ET
So you can add Chychrun for Nick Jensen and a 3rd. We can't beat that?

You can add Logan Thompson for two 3rds. But we sign Cam Talbot instead?

What will it take to acquire Pinto? A 2nd round pick that we wasted on Walman? By the way, what did we do with the Walman cap space? Let's see...

-delete Walman's $3.4M and add Gustafsson at $2m.

-sign Talbot at $2.5M when we could have just brought Reimer back for $1M.

Are those two changes worth a 2nd round pick?
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:24 PM ET
Walman trade still makes zero sense at this point.
- Feds91Stammer


I could live with the Walman trade if he added a true top 4 RHD to solidify the 2nd pairing but he's done nothing like this so far. The defense is worst than last season and so is the offense. None of it makes any sense unless a high draft pick is what he wants but then he didn't have to spend any money to do that.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:27 PM ET
I could live with the Walman trade if he added a true top 4 RHD to solidify the 2nd pairing but he's done nothing like this so far. The defense is worst than last season and so is the offense. None of it makes any sense unless a high draft pick is what he wants but then he didn't have to spend any money to do that.
- dcz28

I think the elephant in the room for RD is the potential Trouba deal.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:30 PM ET
Jack Campbell in the goalie mix now.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
I think the elephant in the room for RD is the potential Trouba deal.
- Feds91Stammer


That deal is dead imo. It would have already happened. Trouba not being told he was being shopped to the Wings by the Rangers likely killed it. To spite the Rangers all he had to do it put the Wings on his list and all the teams with cap space.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
LMAO...Jack Campbell?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
That deal is dead imo. It would have already happened. Trouba not being told he was being shopped to the Wings by the Rangers likely killed it. To spite the Rangers all he had to do it put the Wings on his list and all the teams with cap space.
- dcz28

You may be right but who knows if it has to do with retention and whatnot.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
LMAO...Jack Campbell?
- StargateSG1

It’s league minimum. Why is that a lmao?
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
Jack Campbell in the goalie mix now.
- Feds91Stammer

WTF is Yzerman doing with goalies. I know this is a GR vet signing but this ensures Cossa will not see an NHL game next season even if he plays lights out and dominates the AHL.
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
Oh God I thought the tears were flowing but Jack Campbell should have all the crybabies in full force. Here come the doomsayers
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
It’s league minimum. Why is that a lmao?
- Feds91Stammer


He can't stop a beach ball at the NHL level.
Grand Rapids league minimum?
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:41 PM ET
Oh God I thought the tears were flowing but Jack Campbell should have all the crybabies in full force. Here come the doomsayers
- optimus-reim


Eh, it's league minimum.

Last year the Red Wings had four veteran goalies with NHL experience (Husso, Reimer, Lyon, Hutchinson) plus Cossa split between DET/GR. Seems like that's probably the plan again, with Talbot in for Reimer (an upgrade) and Campbell in for Hutchinson (also an upgrade).




optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
Vinny Desharnais doing his own impressions of Kronwall plastering people would be ideal to watch. 4 year/1.75 per?
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
I’m definitely not going to worry about carrying 3 goalies or a 2.5m cap hit for Talbot. Could be much worse.
- Feds91Stammer
Like signing Campell too?
optimus-reim
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Not Toronto
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
Eh, it's league minimum.

Last year the Red Wings had four veteran goalies with NHL experience (Husso, Reimer, Lyon, Hutchinson) plus Cossa split between DET/GR. Seems like that's probably the plan again, with Talbot in for Reimer (an upgrade) and Campbell in for Hutchinson (also an upgrade).

- Sven22



Red Wings have ALWAYS over ripened their prospects.
Personally, I don't see Cossa being the goalie of the future, but that's my 2p.
I don't mind the depth and Talbot is a steadying presence as well. To me Hutchinson and Campbell are just a wash, not disagreeing but seems to be a musical chairs. However, Campbell is a really solid teammate and should help Cossa building up his confidence. Great to see Yzerman adding all this depth and experience, helps the younger guy learn the ropes and find a role within the team.


How do you feel about the draft? I personally liked the Plante and Nygard picks.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
He can't stop a beach ball at the NHL level.
Grand Rapids league minimum?

- StargateSG1

He was good before Edmonton ruined him.
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