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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
You don't even know who those people were that were scouting Luchenko, do you. You just keep showing evreyone what little knowledge you have and what a little person you are.
- jd250


It doesn't matter who they were. They weren't employed as full time NHL scouts. Which is what you've been saying to anyone offering an opinion from a source outside of full time NHL scouts, you pathetic fool!
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
next topic of conversation is who will be the next GM?
- hello it's me 2050

Trust the process…
It’s laugh time now.
Those important questions are for down the road
Just sit back and enjoy the poopshow for awhile
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 1 @ 3:02 PM ET
We do… at least they won cups and watch the end of sid/Geno careers
- Stayin alive


Their fans are use to a level of excellence, they picked up Hayes.

We are use to a level of average to below average. We got MM
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:03 PM ET
Hathaway extended!

THE CUP* IS OURS!!!





*this would be the Try Hard Cup, not the more well known Stanley Cup, because trying really hard and playing the right win will always be so much more important than winning!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
Trust the process…
It’s laugh time now.
Those important questions are for down the road
Just sit back and enjoy the poopshow for awhile

- Stayin alive

I will thoroughly enjoy watching them lose.

the only intriguing part will be if the team quits on the coach. a slow start would be ideal to see how this unfolds.

I still expect joel to be moved before the season.

Call me crazy but I smell a torts ext by the end of the year.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:04 PM ET
It doesn't matter who they were. They weren't employed as full time NHL scouts. Which is what you've been saying to anyone offering an opinion from a source outside of full time NHL scouts, you pathetic fool!

- MJL

Mother (frank)er. Beat me to it 😂
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
But wait, most of the scouting reports you read were from the first half of the season. Luchenko had a monster 2nd half of the season and had a monster combine. So what scouts saw at the start of the season would have been very different to what they would have seen by the end of the season. I think Luchenko has the potential to be a 1C, otherwise the Flyers would not have picked him over Buium and Helenius. I think its fair to track all three players and see what happens. And hey, if Helenius and Buium turn out to be better players than Luchenko, I will be the first to say Briere eff'd up. But right now, I can't begin to think that way. I trust Flahr and his scouts.
- jd250


Luchanko got better as the season went on for sure. He went from a consensus 2nd or 3rd rnd pick to a first round chatter….but regardless he more then likely would have been there at 20….if they liked him so much they could of traded up from 32…I loved that they took a hand on Michkov…to me they should have done the same thing with Buium…roll with the chance to draft elite type skill sets .
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
Their fans are use to a level of excellence, they picked up Hayes.

We are use to a level of average to below average. We got MM

- WhiskeyMan

I’ll take the cups and watching the sunset years of the stars that brought those cups over mm 7 days a week
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
I will thoroughly enjoy watching them lose.

the only intriguing part will be if the team quits on the coach. a slow start would be ideal to see how this unfolds.

I still expect joel to be moved before the season.

Call me crazy but I smell a torts ext by the end of the year.

- hello it's me 2050

As soon as Torts starts to pull his BS with Michkov, and we know he eventually will, he’s gone imo. I don’t think the Comcast employed writers even try to spin that if they tried.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jul 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
Their fans are use to a level of excellence, they picked up Hayes.

We are use to a level of average to below average. We got MM

- WhiskeyMan

Mitch Marner 🥳
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:08 PM ET
Luchanko got better as the season went on for sure. He went from a consensus 2nd or 3rd rnd pick to a first round chatter….but regardless he more then likely would have been there at 20….if they liked him so much they could of traded up from 32…I loved that they took a hand on Michkov…to me they should have done the same thing with Buium…roll with the chance to draft elite type skill sets .
- landros 2

Dare I say pick 32 prolly by Edmonton sound pretty close to what Jett brings?

So even if Jett somehow got scooped up they had other options for that type player
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:10 PM ET
Tanner is gone to vegas.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
2.4 AAV for Hathaway.

This offseason has been an unmitigated disaster so far.

- Flyers1218


Their priorities are all (frank)ed.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
I will thoroughly enjoy watching them lose.

the only intriguing part will be if the team quits on the coach. a slow start would be ideal to see how this unfolds.

I still expect joel to be moved before the season.

Call me crazy but I smell a torts ext by the end of the year.

- hello it's me 2050





Can you imagine if he goes all Frost on Michkov and sits him for 3 or 4 games.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
I'm not the one stating the Flyers reached for Luchenko.
- jd250


Yeah but you are pretty much the only one stating they didn't.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
Well, Buium was the 6th defenseman taken off the board .. was he really that standout 1D that was picked go in the top 5 picks? That is all I am saying. Buium might turn out to be better than Drysdale and York, and Luchenko may be a bust pick. But then again maybe not. Its impossible to tell at this point, and thus the Briere bashing on this forum is unwarranted at this point.
- jd250


I’ve actually stayed on the fence with Briere…like the last two I hoped they would be successful. I especially bought into Hextall’s plan until it was apparent it had plateaued and was starting to go in the wrong direction…. Liked a couple of Fletchers early moves then it was followed by a bunch that were both contradictory and inept. With Briere I like the early chatter on building things the right way. I just don’t see and haven’t seen his actions match the Philadelphia Flyers PR department’s marketing campaign of a rebuild…so he’s added some draft capital by taking on bad contracts and $…after watching him in action at the draft Color me as sceptical at best he will not butcher the next draft like I fear he did this one. I’m just judging on what I see not what’s being told to us because those are two very different things.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 3:25 PM ET
Tanner is gone to vegas.
- hello it's me 2050

Someone call and check on that guy who used to ask Bill about him on a near daily basis. Never understood the fascination.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:30 PM ET
I’ve actually stayed on the fence with Briere…like the last two I hoped they would be successful. I especially bought into Hextall’s plan until it was apparent it had plateaued and was starting to go in the wrong direction…. Liked a couple of Fletchers early moves then it was followed by a bunch that were both contradictory and inept. With Briere I like the early chatter on building things the right way. I just don’t see and haven’t seen his actions match the Philadelphia Flyers PR department’s marketing campaign of a rebuild…so he’s added some draft capital by taking on bad contracts and $…after watching him in action at the draft Color me as sceptical at best he will not butcher the next draft like I fear he did this one. I’m just judging on what I see not what’s being told to us because those are two very different things.
- landros 2

It’s really such a simple thing too… how many teams have rebuilt from basically scratch over the last say 5 years? How many last 2 years? Or on path. That are just light years ahead of Philly.

Sj/chi just doing laps in the past year alone.

Astounding actually.

Hey bill how many seeler/ej/gh/tk etc did sj/chi give extensions to?
Nah, not a rebuild.


How many top picks sj/chi have next year?
Nah not a rebuild.


So laughable that anyone that watches or is associated with this team flat out just doesn’t call it what it is.

A poopshow
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
The Hathaway signing seems weird since we had him for this upcoming season already...

Do we think Ryan Johansen stays injured at the start of next season?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 3:39 PM ET
It’s really such a simple thing too… how many teams have rebuilt from basically scratch over the last say 5 years? How many last 2 years? Or on path. That are just light years ahead of Philly.

Sj/chi just doing laps in the past year alone.

Astounding actually.

Hey bill how many seeler/ej/gh/tk etc did sj/chi give extensions to?
Nah, not a rebuild.


How many top picks sj/chi have next year?
Nah not a rebuild.


So laughable that anyone that watches or is associated with this team flat out just doesn’t call it what it is.

A poopshow

- Stayin alive

What do you want Bill to do. He chose the paycheck.

We all know what a circus this has been and continues to be. We knew it’d be like this when their president/GM search ended with Jonesy and Briere. The alumni comes before the team. It will continue to do so until Comcast wakes the (frank) up.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 3:42 PM ET
There is buzz out there that the flyers are in contact with the league to make a special exception for poehling so they can extend him prior to next summer.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:48 PM ET
Hathaway extended!

THE CUP* IS OURS!!!





*this would be the Try Hard Cup, not the more well known Stanley Cup, because trying really hard and playing the right win will always be so much more important than winning!

- BiggE


What moves did you want the Flyers to make today? Yes Hathaway will play but Johnson hopefully will only play when there are injuries (yes, Risto and JD are likely to get hurt). Back to Hathaway, I think he was relied on too much, but he doesn't hurt the team. There's always going to be a few vets in the lineup, especially with Torts. It's not that big of a deal.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 1 @ 3:50 PM ET
The Hathaway signing seems weird since we had him for this upcoming season already...

Do we think Ryan Johansen stays injured at the start of next season?

- FlyersGrace


yes, it was stated he will go on IR
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
2.4 AAV for Hathaway.

This offseason has been an unmitigated disaster so far.

- Flyers1218


How many years?
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Jul 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
It’s really such a simple thing too… how many teams have rebuilt from basically scratch over the last say 5 years? How many last 2 years? Or on path. That are just light years ahead of Philly.

Sj/chi just doing laps in the past year alone.

Astounding actually.

Hey bill how many seeler/ej/gh/tk etc did sj/chi give extensions to?
Nah, not a rebuild.


How many top picks sj/chi have next year?
Nah not a rebuild.


So laughable that anyone that watches or is associated with this team flat out just doesn’t call it what it is.

A poopshow

- Stayin alive


The Flyers will never do a full rebuild no matter how much the "fans" on HB want it. People keep going to games, buying merch, etc, so they will always try to stay somewhat competitive to keep their paying customers happy. I'm torn bc I want to see a Cup before I die or can't enjoy it, but I also don't want to see bad Flyers games. I'm looking forward to seeing Michkov play and hope things shape up over the next few years.
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