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dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:25 AM ET
becuase in the flyers mind he helps and adds value.

ginning attard and to an extent zamula are like wtf

- hello it's me 2050


Yeah, seriously, WTF?!?!?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:26 AM ET
Maybe I'm alone. but if the Flyers 2025-26 team looks like this I am ok with it. I know it is wishful thinking and I'm sure changes will be made (good or bad) that I can't predict now.

Hypothetically the Flyers win the lottery and draft Hagens, it doesn't turn them into a contender or even I think a consistent playoff team right now, but I feel the team looks much better, especially if they are smart with the cap. Lot's of cap space with few to sign if they just ride it out.

Farabee-[Hagens]-Michkov <---Cold War Line
Tippett-Frost-Foerster
[X]-Couturier-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Tuomaala

Desaluriers

York-Drysdale
Sanheim-Bonk
Seeler-Ristolainen

Zamula

Ersson
Fedotov


[Trade]
Konecny
Laughton
Hathaway

Get value assets from trades, including the rest of the assets from 2025 draft and they could stockpile for the future to add pieces little by little.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:28 AM ET
It's funny that the Leafs would rather give 5 or 6 years to 34 year old Chris Tanev than trade for Ristolainen.
- Feanor

What’s Tanev’s new cap hit and what would the Leafs have to give up?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:29 AM ET
Tanev constantly hurt, that’s a pretty brutal deal by Toronto.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:30 AM ET
What’s Tanev’s new cap hit and what would the Leafs have to give up?
- roenick97


4.5 over 6 years at 34 years old.

Give to the Flyers? A pair of blue socks...
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:35 AM ET
Is anyone surprised by anything anymore with this team?
- mikeyo27


Only when they do something that kinda makes sense.
Hosher12
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.15.2020

Jul 1 @ 11:35 AM ET
Maybe I'm alone. but if the Flyers 2025-26 team looks like this I am ok with it. I know it is wishful thinking and I'm sure changes will be made (good or bad) that I can't predict now.

Hypothetically the Flyers win the lottery and draft Hagens, it doesn't turn them into a contender or even I think a consistent playoff team right now, but I feel the team looks much better, especially if they are smart with the cap. Lot's of cap space with few to sign if they just ride it out.

Farabee-

- Glak18[Hagens]-Michkov <---Cold War Line
Tippett-Frost-Foerster
[X]-Couturier-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Tuomaala

Desaluriers

York-Drysdale
Sanheim-Bonk
Seeler-Ristolainen

Zamula

Ersson
Fedotov


[Trade]
Konecny
Laughton
Hathaway

Get value assets from trades, including the rest of the assets from 2025 draft and they could stockpile for the future to add pieces little by little.


I love your optimism and will cheer along for it to come true.
It’s nice to see a positive outlook! Thank you!!
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:36 AM ET
https://x.com/avappleyard/status/1807777223425835056?t=Y5G4kkbtf4HRDla1tcOLAg&s=19

A little insight into the potential insane center depth in the '25 draft.

- Trox88


Didn't the Flyers just pass on a potential franchise dman in a deep defensive draft because they had to many defensemen in their system? Drafting instead 3 depth centers in the 1st, 2nd, and 4th rounds.

Using the Flyers stated logic this year, the last thing the Flyers will do next year is draft a center in center heavy draft in the 1st round, as they just picked 3. I'm thinking they will either go for a LW with a 200' game or a goalie who stops pucks with his face.


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:37 AM ET
Only when they do something that kinda makes sense.
- Pelle31Forever



To me doing something is moving out vets and not tying up money. I would do whatever I can to be in the hunt for Hagens(2025) and McKenna(2026).

That should be the foresight used to build this team.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:38 AM ET
At least these deals are driving down the price for Konecny.

I post this with the assumption he is being resigned.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:39 AM ET
Nikita Zadorov would have made a nice shutdown option for the Flyers to play with Drysdale. Too bad the Flyers didn't clear more cap space.
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 1 @ 11:39 AM ET
https://x.com/PierreVLeBr...T_SLOwh9KcUh6yapkENg&s=19

Stamkos on his way to NSH.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:40 AM ET
At least these deals are driving down the price for Konecny.

I post this with the assumption he is being resigned.

- MBFlyerfan

At the same time it makes a trade even more enticing. TK for 8M AAV or even slightly higher is a good fit for teams.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:41 AM ET
Anthony DiMarco is easily the best source for Flyers insider news. If you aren’t following him, you’re missing out.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:41 AM ET
https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1807799550637228063?t=jLT_SLOwh9KcUh6yapkENg&s=19

Stamkos on his way to NSH.

- Trox88

Giroux deal. Good for Nashville
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:43 AM ET
Is Paul George even a star anymore?
- WhiskeyMan


Not in my eyes.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 11:43 AM ET
At least these deals are driving down the price for Konecny.

I post this with the assumption he is being resigned.

- MBFlyerfan

the florida deals you have to factor in the tax end on those deals imo. not apples to apple to me
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
Nikita Zadorov would have made a nice shutdown option for the Flyers to play with Drysdale. Too bad the Flyers didn't clear more cap space.
- jd250

RR > zadorov no?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:44 AM ET
Wild traded up to make sure no other teams leapfrogged over them to take Buium, it wasn't about the Flyers taking him it was other teams trying to.
- Glak18

ok, that makes sense, but SJ gave up a 2nd to move up 3 spots. The Flyers could not have got a bit more? I guess Briere stated they didn't want to move back that much because there were teams that would take Luchenko.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1807799550637228063?t=jLT_SLOwh9KcUh6yapkENg&s=19

Stamkos on his way to NSH.

- Trox88

clearly he wanted the cash it seems on the surface.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
the florida deals you have to factor in the tax end on those deals imo. not apples to apple to me
- hello it's me 2050

Yea, not signing those guys to that deal in Toronto.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
RR > zadorov no?
- hello it's me 2050

Risto is the best defenseman of all time, even with one arm in a sling!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
At least these deals are driving down the price for Konecny.

I post this with the assumption he is being resigned.

- MBFlyerfan


The logic in me says my gut was correct months ago, TK is not going or should get more than 8x8 IF the Flyers went the route of re-signing him, which I am not in favor of.

Then logic 2.0 kicks in and I realize the Flyers are not bound by logic rules and make an obscene offer, justify how important he is to the team and let the clueless fan base make excuses for why it has to be done.

I love TK, but he is better off with another team at a different stage than the Flyers. At the same time teams don't get chances to move players with value to help out for the future, if you pass those chances up it always ends up bad.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 11:45 AM ET
ok, that makes sense, but SJ gave up a 2nd to move up 3 spots. The Flyers could not have got a bit more? I guess Briere stated they didn't want to move back that much because there were teams that would take Luchenko.
- jd250

in danny we trust. he did the best he could. why question him?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:46 AM ET
To me doing something is moving out vets and not tying up money. I would do whatever I can to be in the hunt for Hagens(2025) and McKenna(2026).

That should be the foresight used to build this team.

- J35Bacher


Absolutely. That should have been the plan for this past season. But they unexpectedly held a playoff spot a long time and then they deviated from the rebuild.
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