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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:47 AM ET
The logic in me says my gut was correct months ago, TK is not going or should get more than 8x8 IF the Flyers went the route of re-signing him, which I am not in favor of.

Then logic 2.0 kicks in and I realize the Flyers are not bound by logic rules and make an obscene offer, justify how important he is to the team and let the clueless fan base make excuses for why it has to be done.

I love TK, but he is better off with another team at a different stage than the Flyers. At the same time teams don't get chances to move players with value to help out for the future, if you pass those chances up it always ends up bad.

- Glak18

It 100% starts with 8 and is probably closer to 9.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:48 AM ET
https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1807799550637228063?t=jLT_SLOwh9KcUh6yapkENg&s=19

Stamkos on his way to NSH.

- Trox88


Now Nashvile can call up Svechkov to center Stamkos and Kemell.

That could be a dangerous team in the future.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:50 AM ET
Pinto asked for a trade.

Send Konecny to OTT.

Give them a good player to win with and Flyers get a center they can use some of the Konecny money on.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:51 AM ET
It 100% starts with 8 and is probably closer to 9.
- ClaudeFather


Doesn't matter, let the new team figure that out. I'm unhappy with a tick over 8. I don't care about fake demand, I don't care about how the salary cap is going to rise every glorious year (still waiting for that 5m increase every year) and his number is different because of taxes...blah blah blah excuses.

8x8 and I'm EXPECTING 40 goal years whether he gets injured or not. No that doesn't mean he should get 10.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:53 AM ET
Pinto asked for a trade.

Send Konecny to OTT.

Give them a good player to win with and Flyers get a center they can use some of the Konecny money on.

- J35Bacher

I’d prefer picks for a TK package or a top prospect. What is pintos ceiling, 2C? We have a frost with similar potential outcome.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 11:54 AM ET
Doesn't matter, let the new team figure that out. I'm unhappy with a tick over 8. I don't care about fake demand, I don't care about how the salary cap is going to rise every glorious year (still waiting for that 5m increase every year) and his number is different because of taxes...blah blah blah excuses.

8x8 and I'm EXPECTING 40 goal years whether he gets injured or not. No that doesn't mean he should get 10.

- Glak18

All but one person on here wants him traded. You’re also just completely outlandish expecting 40 goals for an 8x8 player
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:55 AM ET
ok, that makes sense, but SJ gave up a 2nd to move up 3 spots. The Flyers could not have got a bit more? I guess Briere stated they didn't want to move back that much because there were teams that would take Luchenko.
- jd250


Different moves, different scenarios. Stop trying to compare every single move from others to justify. Even if it was a bidding war it's not like Danny is going to milk a 1st to move up 1 or 2 spots. It probably started at a 5th and got the best he could.

Time will tell how much Buium or Helenius will be worth...is that 3rd worth it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 11:56 AM ET
I’d prefer picks for a TK package or a top prospect. What is pintos ceiling, 2C? We have a frost with similar potential outcome.
- ClaudeFather


Pinto is only 23.

I like Frost but it just seems like he will not be what we want him to be here and it already seems like the coach isn't high on him.

Again I like Frost. I would be ok with Pinto and Frost down the middle.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:57 AM ET
All but one person on here wants him traded. You’re also just completely outlandish expecting 40 goals for an 8x8 player
- ClaudeFather


Then I would rather pay a player 4.5-5.5 that provides the same thing TK does.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
Nikita Zadorov would have made a nice shutdown option for the Flyers to play with Drysdale. Too bad the Flyers didn't clear more cap space.
- jd250


LMAO. Why in the world should the Flyers be in the market for Zadorov?
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 1 @ 12:01 PM ET
https://x.com/reporterchr...MVZaFOd6mvFDkor-xFJw&s=19

Luv that the Caps are trying to compete. Chychryn gone.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:02 PM ET
Chychrun to Caps. All these teams are impoving.

Even Chicago should be better then the Flyers this year.

They need to look at 2025 and 2026. Move the vets and try to be in the hunt for top picks
Uncle Vanya
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.20.2024

Jul 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
https://x.com/reporterchris/status/1807805808643899879?t=FGMVZaFOd6mvFDkor-xFJw&s=19

Luv that the Caps are trying to compete. Chychryn gone.

- Trox88

They've got to keep Putin's boy happy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Chychrun to Caps. All these teams are impoving.

Even Chicago should be better then the Flyers this year.

They need to look at 2025 and 2026. Move the vets and try to be in the hunt for top picks

- J35Bacher


With a lot of teams improving, there is a real opportunity for the Flyers to position themselves for the 25 draft.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Chychrun to Caps. All these teams are impoving.

Even Chicago should be better then the Flyers this year.

They need to look at 2025 and 2026. Move the vets and try to be in the hunt for top picks

- J35Bacher

good deal for sens. jensen a better fit
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 1 @ 12:07 PM ET
With a lot of teams improving, there is a real opportunity for the Flyers to position themselves for the 25 draft.
- MJL


Agreed. Dead simple for the Flyers and it is setting up for them nicely.

All they have to do is move TK and Laughton. Will they do it?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
With a lot of teams improving, there is a real opportunity for the Flyers to position themselves for the 25 draft.
- MJL


Exactly.

If I was Briere and I am looking at the landscape, I should do what I can to get my team in position for Hagens(2025) and even McKenna(2026).

Move Konecny and Laughton. 2 very easy moves.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
Exactly.

If I was Briere and I am looking at the landscape, I should do what I can to get my team in position for Hagens(2025) and even McKenna(2026).

Move Konecny and Laughton. 2 very easy moves.

- J35Bacher

nah, flyers thinking lets wait maybe get more value later.....or see where we are in 6 months
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
nah, flyers thinking lets wait maybe get more value later.....or see where we are in 6 months
- hello it's me 2050


One thing that gives me hope, I have not seen a single thing about a potential Konecny deal anywhere and I believe today was first day they can extend him.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:13 PM ET
Lindholm 7 at 7.75 AAV in Boston.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:14 PM ET
One thing that gives me hope, I have not seen a single thing about a potential Konecny deal anywhere and I believe today was first day they can extend him.
- J35Bacher


Hear any noise or rumors about him being traded?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:17 PM ET
Hear any noise or rumors about him being traded?
- MJL


Don't ruin the happy thoughts I was having.

On another note, the amount of money and term some of these defenders are getting, I would absolutely see what Sanheim could fetch and if he would waive his NTC. His deal is not as bad as some of the money today.




Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Jul 1 @ 12:19 PM ET
Wait a minute, OEL got 4 yrs @ 3.5 million/yr from the Leafs. Amazing
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Brier not having the cap space to get involved much today is great. So many bad deals signed already.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jul 1 @ 12:20 PM ET
Wait a minute, OEL got 4 yrs @ 3.5 million/yr from the Leafs. Amazing
- Trox88

😂 treivling making his mark
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