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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:45 PM ET
Best time to trade is when teams lose out on guys in free agency.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:49 PM ET
Everyone sucks on losing teams.
- Glak18


Nope.

https://x.com/JFreshHocke...tatus/1758554017825702052
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:51 PM ET
It’s at least nice to hear he “attempted” to be aggressive. You would hope in a “rebuild” even if that term is just for their marketing team, they would be…:
- landros 2


Nan, not a rebuild. Would a rebuilding team stockpile 1st and 2nd picks? Oh wait, they would.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 12:54 PM ET
Trade konecny and the tank is ON. All these crap teams getting better baby
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
Nan, not a rebuild. Would a rebuilding team stockpile 1st and 2nd picks? Oh wait, they would.
- bmeltzer


A retooling team would get extra 1st round picks but also spend over the cap ceiling, keep veterans around because they're so good for the "culture", and try and sneak into the playoffs.

Did people already forget that Hextall had two first rounders in 2017 and 2018? We've seen this all before.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 12:55 PM ET
looking currently and in the future, not sure how anyone can really put a positive spin on this team/organization.

they have 1 player to get exited over who may be a star. that is it. No end in sight to turn this around from my view
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:56 PM ET
Flyers trade Sean Walker, effectively killing their chances to make the playoffs -- Nope, not a rebuild

Flyers trade their 32 pick in the 2024 draft and now have 3 1st round and 3 2nd round picks in a deep 2025 draft -- Nope, not a rebuild

Flyers sign Eric Johnson to be effectively their 8th defenseman -- Nope, clearly not a rebuild

Got it!

You know who Zeev Buium reminds me of? Shayne Gostisbehere -- clearly this team will never learn

- jd250


You forgot a few.

Sign Seeler at 30 for 4 years.
Tried to sign Sean Walker before they moved him.
Why do you assume KJ is # 8?
As far as Buium….Gostisbehere? Did anyone ever say Ghost was an above average elite skater? the Flyers “reached for Lachanco….I’m not sure it’s being disputed except by the Local media and guys like you. A team rebuilding does not “reach” in the 1rst round. They draft kids like Buium.
After watching how they treated this years 1rst round how can anyone have confidence in this management team with three picks next year….guys on here we’re hoping for the Flyers not to make the playoffs this year so they could get a better pick? Then he took a guy they could have got had they made the playoffs anyways?lol.
The organization is selling Briere as this young, smart executive…I see a guy who hasn’t accomplished zilch and has made a bunch of questionable decisions that will (frank) this team going forward….they talk that it’s a rebuild but they haven’t made any move that say rebuild except the ones they were forced into.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:58 PM ET
https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1807812353343541642?t=7qmgO_-X-OxtNwpICMeJvQ&s=19

Monahan to CLB. I need help with this move by Waddell.

- Trox88


Waddell needs help with this move by Waddell
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:59 PM ET
Nan, not a rebuild. Would a rebuilding team stockpile 1st and 2nd picks? Oh wait, they would.
- bmeltzer


2025 looks amazing for their picks, but don't most rebuilding teams try to do that for multiple years while they shed vets that don't fit future plans?

They kind of did that for 2024, but technically they just delayed a 1st to the next year (which I love the deal even if it's just a chance to get a better pick in a deeper draft). When all is said and done the 2024 draft was a waste other than adding low end depth.

Do you see them doing the same in 2026 like they are doing in 2025? One year stockpiling isn't really a rebuild unless you hit on just about everything.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jul 1 @ 1:01 PM ET
If somehow the Flyers won the cup in 6 some here would complain we didn't win it in 5
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 1 @ 1:02 PM ET
Waddell needs help with this move by Waddell
- wcorvette

very bad deal. brutal really
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:03 PM ET
If somehow the Flyers won the cup in 6 some here would complain we didn't win it in 5
- Bayareaflyer


The Flyers will be at 50 years without a Cup in less than 12 months time.

Two former Flyers goalies just got their first Cup, while the goalie the Flyers pinned their hopes on is out of the league awaiting trial.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:04 PM ET
Wait did Toronto really go out and sign Matt Murray again after having him on LTIR all last year? I knew the injuries were a lie.

No wonder they don't win.
dubc55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.25.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:05 PM ET
Only team that is clearly worse than the Flyers I see so far...Calgary.
- Glak18


Calgary had a pretty successful draft though. They accumulated some pretty nice prospects with high ceilings. Zayne Parekh, Matvei Gridin, Andrew Basha, Henry Mews, Luke Misa and Jacob Battaglia are all pretty great picks.
Uncle Vanya
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.20.2024

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
Best time to trade is when teams lose out on guys in free agency.
- Glak18

Danny being low-ball offered into paralysis.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 1 @ 1:06 PM ET
If somehow the Flyers won the cup in 6 some here would complain we didn't win it in 5
- Bayareaflyer
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Let me know when they get close to contending for a Cup. Maybe then you will have a valid statement. Until then...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:08 PM ET
If somehow the Flyers won the cup in 6 some here would complain we didn't win it in 5
- Bayareaflyer


Yeah bunch of whiners complaining about an organization that has been making poor decisions for decades and not making excuses for them.

Think positive that will allow the team to make logically sound decisions!

I'm sure no one complained when the Flyers won the cup last time, but they were also distracted too when WWI was going on....
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:09 PM ET
https://x.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1807812353343541642?t=7qmgO_-X-OxtNwpICMeJvQ&s=19

Monahan to CLB. I need help with this move by Waddell.

- Trox88

How good Carolina was the last few years is an outlier. Waddell is trash.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:09 PM ET
Calgary had a pretty successful draft though. They accumulated some pretty nice prospects with high ceilings. Zayne Parekh, Matvei Gridin, Andrew Basha, Henry Mews, Luke Misa and Jacob Battaglia are all pretty great picks.
- dubc55


That is a pretty decent crop there, but that's not helping them the next couple years. They look horrible, SJ horrible.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 1 @ 1:10 PM ET
Seeing a lot of teams signing players today and improving while the Flyers remain dormant as they stated they would be. This will make it tougher for the Flyers to have a good season next year, which is better for their draft positions. I wish the Flyers would trade some veteran players also, to give themselves even better odds of finishing in the bottom 10, and maybe even the bottom 5.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
Yeah bunch of whiners complaining about an organization that has been making poor decisions for decades and not making excuses for them.

Think positive that will allow the team to make logically sound decisions!

I'm sure no one complained when the Flyers won the cup last time, but they were also distracted too when WWI was going on....

- Glak18


To be fair it was the Vietnam War
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:11 PM ET
Trade for Pinto.

Trade Konecny and Laughton.

Move along.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:12 PM ET
Seeing a lot of teams signing players today and improving while the Flyers remain dormant as they stated they would be. This will make it tougher for the Flyers to have a good season next year, which is better for their draft positions. I wish the Flyers would trade some veteran players also, to give themselves even better odds of finishing in the bottom 10, and maybe even the bottom 5.
- jd250

lol. You seem like a nice guy. But you’re bipolar hahaha. I say that lovingly.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Seeing a lot of teams signing players today and improving while the Flyers remain dormant as they stated they would be. This will make it tougher for the Flyers to have a good season next year, which is better for their draft positions. I wish the Flyers would trade some veteran players also, to give themselves even better odds of finishing in the bottom 10, and maybe even the bottom 5.
- jd250


Bottom 5 is the preference. Even if the Flyers finish in last it doesn't guarantee them a #1 pick, but does guarantee a top 3 pick. That's why placement is important.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:13 PM ET
Did they needlessly trade for Chryhryn yet
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