Building the culture and identity of a team is equally if not more important than just having a group of highly skilled players. The Flyers core is currently and will continue to add young players who need to learn and develop the proper habits of what it takes to play hockey as a professional day in and day out. If you look at how Garnet H. is always giving 100%, whether thats each shift during a game or how he trains through out the entire year and then go listen to the coaches that have worked with him say you easily understand why they felt he was worth extending. Danny B said basically the same thing with regards to bringing Eric Johnson back....

Many longtime fans of the Flyers, myself included, were very disappointed when then captain Mike Richards and Jeff Carter who had the A were traded away. If I recall correctly the reasoning was that as the team leaders they were creating a poor culture to start growing as many were reportedly out partying quite often both in and off season causing a ripple affect. After they were both shipped out, the locker room identity was quickly revamped leading with Pronger getting named captain and Timonen and Briere getting the A's in hopes of helping set a better example for then young players Giroux, Coots, Simmonds and Bob.

Even though Richards and Carter went on to help LA win Cups, that Kings team had a solid "culture" already in place that they adapted to. The Flyers "team culture" and identity also appeared to be headed back in the correct direction after the changes were made, personally I felt like we had a team that would compete for the Cup for quite a few years.

I believe and think Briere and Jonesy realized that this was the moment when the Flyers culture got lost. They both were witnesses to the impulsive mistake of trading Bobby instead of developing him and the misfortunate follow through of a stick that caught Pronger in the eye where veteran leadership was replaced to soon were the catalysts that ultimately has lead to the Flyers slowly losing their identity along with the culture that was built by the Bullies as a team to be feared to play against. It is also the moment when I noticed so many fans losing hope and becoming bitter year after year.

Many comments on this forum about current draft picks and signings are the perfect example of how venomous and impatient many who bled orange and black over the years have become. They are desperately in need of a blood transfusion so they can enjoy THIS moment!!! A transfusion that renews their capacity of hope and trust that gives them the ability to delay their own ego's desire of instant gratification of being right vs long term the plan of Briere, Jones and the entire organization that will gratify all of our dreams of another Flyers parade down Broad Street with the Cup!!!

Success starts with rebuilding the Culture from the top down, this signing is a recognition of the early building blocks for a good foundation.

For those of you who still bleed Orange and Black but have lost hope and choose to share your negativity its understood and forgiven however for those of you that are hear to spread negativity and hate or do not want to be a part of the Flyers family that roots for their success .... I say to you ... F#@K -OFF!! ... You don't like us and we don't care!!!!

Let's Go Flyers


- EBPflyer

Some cultures in dairy 😋 products 🐐 takes a while to build. But can be extremely nutritious and get you full for a long time ⌛️

My bet is most of the Torts naysayers thought Paul Maurice wasn't the correct coach for the Panthers either before the season.....
- EBPflyer

This is the def of a false equivalency

Sorry I should have stated that I was just using the comment you made about Sennecke as a reference point when judging picks and talent.
- EBPflyer

Yeah I really never get wow’s by picks or extremely surprised. But some are just out there in terms of off the board. Even the Jett pick I have absolutely zero problem with in of itself other than the dman being there. If there was no dman left I would just be curious why they see Jett as the pick. But not pissed at all.

Yeah I really never get wow’s by picks or extremely surprised. But some are just out there in terms of off the board. Even the Jett pick I have absolutely zero problem with in of itself other than the dman being there. If there was no dman left I would just be curious why they see Jett as the pick. But not pissed at all.
- Stayin alive

I think Sennecke was the biggest surprise of the first round not Jett. Sennecke climbed many top 10 positions from where people thought he’d go. That’s different from a climb from 18-20 to 13

Sens sign Pinto to 2 year deal. 3.75 aav

Sens sign Pinto to 2 year deal. 3.75 aav
- MBFlyerfan

Also my favorite Phil Myers to Toronto

Sens sign Pinto to 2 year deal. 3.75 aav
- MBFlyerfan

There is a center with potential. Well, the flyers tried to swap with Frost many months ago.

Also my favorite Phil Myers to Toronto
- Just5

Ha ha good old Philippe. Bonne chance!!!

Atkinson signs with Tampa. 1 yr 900k
- MBFlyerfan

Stamkos replacement CHECK

I think Sennecke was the biggest surprise of the first round not Jett. Sennecke climbed many top 10 positions from where people thought he’d go. That’s different from a climb from 18-20 to 13
- Just5

Oh for sure. Never thought he’d go that high. Verbeek is annoying. I mean I get it you like him. Pick up phone move back at least a pick or 2. Or 3. He’s gonna be there. It’s a complete waste to take him at 3 and not try to move back. Make it known slyly you’re maybe open to moving out of 3 a day before draft and sit back and watch the offers come in

Baffling posts today.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read_id=118523&forum_id=1

What happened? Something on this board? I see nothing.

I see Tye McGinn was traded to Sharks.

Baffling stuff.
- PT21

Giroux arrest. According to my Facebook memories 10 years ago today.

I just dipped in here and have been trying to understand your post for the past 5 mins.

Culture was being headed in the right direction after the Richards-Carter trade then the trade of "Bobby" and the stick to the eye of Pronger destroyed it? "Bobby" could not have been the lynchpin of that culture, so that trade is irrelevant. And that leaves Pronger. So, that one stick to the eye undid the culture?

And what do you mean by "veteran leadership replaced? Which veteran leader was replaced by another? Umberger for Hartnell?

And your solution to the malaise is by reviving culture with Hathaway and Johnson?

Is this StepfordSam with a parody post?
- PT21

Team culture generally refers to the shared beliefs, behaviors, working practices, and the values of an organization. ....

My solution would be similar to what I have seen being executed since DB was named GM....currently I think Briere, Jonesy, Torts and Hilferty have a common vision and put a transparent plan in place to accomplish their objectives.

Not having any personal knowledge or ever meeting Hathaway or Johnson, I can only base my opinion on what I have seen with my own eyes or read about them. They are both players that I believe show the consistent effort and sacrifices you would like to see in a young player. There are a couple rookie generational talents that come along that have the in-ate habits of what it takes to be a pro, the majority don't and need to be taught as they are learned behaviors. Past Flyers that were not considered to be high end talent by teams but did things the right way, Lappy, Kapanen, Marsh, etc....
Doing things the right way is one important element that more often than not separates the winners and losers.


Culture.... Locker room leadership

Pronger was named captain after Richie, at the time the Flyers brass didn't like a lot of the players off ice behaviors and didn't want it to affect the younger group. Pronger was an in your face vocal player that demanded accountability. Similar to Torts wanting things done a particular way.

A culture of organizational patience and development is also good.... Bob getting traded was a lesson learned and witnessed by Briere and Jonesy first hand.

So yes I believe their signing is a positive step in establishing or continuing building good team culture!

I think Sennecke was the biggest surprise of the first round not Jett. Sennecke climbed many top 10 positions from where people thought he’d go. That’s different from a climb from 18-20 to 13
- Just5

Yeah they basically said during this draft there was 12 players then it was wide open for the next 30 players or so.

And sure enough they were right. Flyers trade out of the 12 spot and leave the last big name on the board.

Giroux arrest. According to my Facebook memories 10 years ago today.
- hereticpride

AAH. In some Ottawa bar, repeatedly grabbing the ass of an undercover/off-duty cop, right?

I remember an exchange with Jsaq, who also mentioned that it was the repeatedly part that bothered him as well.

AAH. In some Ottawa bar, repeatedly grabbing the ass of an undercover/off-duty cop, right?

I remember an exchange with Jsaq, who also mentioned that it was the repeatedly part that bothered him as well.



- PT21

It was just so bonkers to me that all the mods here were removing any post that referenced it in the slightest. I’m pretty sure I got banned a few days over it

Like they really thought they were going to white wash it out of existence.

Oh for sure. Never thought he’d go that high. Verbeek is annoying. I mean I get it you like him. Pick up phone move back at least a pick or 2. Or 3. He’s gonna be there. It’s a complete waste to take him at 3 and not try to move back. Make it known slyly you’re maybe open to moving out of 3 a day before draft and sit back and watch the offers come in
- Stayin alive

I get it as well as the possibility Flyers could’ve traded down for Jett. However there is a philosophy that if you really want a player just take him to be sure so long as it’s not a super reach.

Team culture generally refers to the shared beliefs, behaviors, working practices, and the values of an organization. ....

My solution would be similar to what I have seen being executed since DB was named GM....currently I think Briere, Jonesy, Torts and Hilferty have a common vision and put a transparent plan in place to accomplish their objectives.

Not having any personal knowledge or ever meeting Hathaway or Johnson, I can only base my opinion on what I have seen with my own eyes or read about them. They are both players that I believe show the consistent effort and sacrifices you would like to see in a young player. There are a couple rookie generational talents that come along that have the in-ate habits of what it takes to be a pro, the majority don't and need to be taught as they are learned behaviors. Past Flyers that were not considered to be high end talent by teams but did things the right way, Lappy, Kapanen, Marsh, etc....
Doing things the right way is one important element that more often than not separates the winners and losers.


Culture.... Locker room leadership

Pronger was named captain after Richie, at the time the Flyers brass didn't like a lot of the players off ice behaviors and didn't want it to affect the younger group. Pronger was an in your face vocal player that demanded accountability. Similar to Torts wanting things done a particular way.

A culture of organizational patience and development is also good.... Bob getting traded was a lesson learned and witnessed by Briere and Jonesy first hand.

So yes I believe their signing is a positive step in establishing or continuing building good team culture!
- EBPflyer

Pronger also did not want Richie to lift the Wales Trophy. Richie lifted it, and mugged for the cameras, and Carter smacked him in the butt and giggled, while Pronger sulked a few feet behind them.

So much for setting the standards of culture, eh?

Traded Walker knowing that would prob cost them the playoffs which it did. Traded Provy the offseason before for what now looks like a kings ransom. I get these two deals are linked, but they only received long term assets for these players thus the reason why they have 6 picks most likely in the top 40 next year. 6 picks in the top 40. A year that is supposed to be an outstanding draft year. They knowingly took on bad contracts for draft capital eliminating the possibility to sign vets in free agency. I hate to burst ur agenda bubble, but this is indeed a rebuild. Your vs of a rebuild may mean finishing in the bottom 3 of the league which is fair, but the flyers simply have too much young talent to do that right now. Thats just reality. That actually means that the rebuild might just be further along than you think and thats ok. They think Johnson will help the young guys. I get why they signed him. In general, I have no problem with Hathaway after what I saw last season.

Their job right now is to support Michcov. Sorry, but with him they will prob finish on the playoff bubble again. If you dont want that than you must trade Foester, Tipp n York. Is that something you want to do?
- 26912 PP

Your logic doesn't make any sense. Why would they have to trade Foerster, Tippet and York? How are they further alon than thought? They still have only Michkov as a true potential first liner. Only Tippet is really good enough to be a second liner. Foerster might be something for the 2nd line. TK should just be traded, but we all know that's not happening.

After the draft 4 days ago, we still need a #1 and #2 center, at least 2 top 6 wingers, and a full top pairing on defence. Jett should be penciled in as the third line center. Not a lot of faith in our goalies, and Kolosov may refuse to return to NA.

The Flyers did themselves no favours with their choices this past weekend. They are a complete and utter mess, and when the TK signing is announced, to me it will signify that we are not going anywhere for the next 10 years.

How come everyone but the Flyers management and JD250 can see what needs to be done?

Pronger also did not want Richie to lift the Wales Trophy. Richie lifted it, and mugged for the cameras, and Carter smacked him in the butt and giggled, while Pronger sulked a few feet behind them.

So much for setting the standards of culture, eh?
- PT21

Hmm did they win the Cup....


By the way I enjoyed watching them lift the Wales and enjoy the moment.... I loved that team. I am just making observations of the past.... I love this Team not because management is selling me a product but because of all the amazing memories that I have shared along my journey of not being a band wagon fan!!!!

Boy George and Culture Club> Flyers culture.

Pronger also did not want Richie to lift the Wales Trophy. Richie lifted it, and mugged for the cameras, and Carter smacked him in the butt and giggled, while Pronger sulked a few feet behind them.

So much for setting the standards of culture, eh?
- PT21

By all accounts, Richard’s was a huge a$$hole. Some of the sh!t he pulled with Lavi behind the scenes is just plain disrespectful and unprofessional. Was happier than a pig in sh!t when he got traded

Noah Powell does look like he might be a steal.

I am going to wait until the off season completes and see what this team is at training camp. If moves are not made between now and then and the Flyers are bringing back essentially the same team I will be concerned; but not because I think they will be bad, but because I think they will be too good, especially as Michkov develops throughout the season.

I am fine with targeting the 2025 draft, but I will state it again, what good does it do for the Flyers to have 3 1st round picks if they are picking 15th, 22nd and 27th? If Briere and Jones realy believe the 2025 draft is a very important draft and they have to get it right, the best thing they can do is move out some veteran players that other teams want, gain even more draft capital and make sure their pick is in the top 10. They have to sacrifice this season to give themselves the best chance to get elite talent to play with Michkov. My concern is I don't believe Jones, Briere and certainly Torts are willing to do that. We'll see if any trades happen.
- jd250

Don't worry, they will disappoint you and not be anywhere near a playoff spot this year.

I get it as well as the possibility Flyers could’ve traded down for Jett. However there is a philosophy that if you really want a player just take him to be sure so long as it’s not a super reach.
- mikeyo27

Yeah Jett I wouldn’t have risked it but sennecke for sure I would

Noah Powell does look like he might be a steal.
- roenick97

I agree, I like the pick as well. I think someone else mentioned it, maybe tomahawk