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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
really is mind boggling how anyone can defend this organization in any facet.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
Briere already guaranteed he won't go to the AHL. Which is funny, because he apparently wasn't able to do that with Gauthier in March 2023 even though the Flyers forward corps at the time was very thin.

Briere somehow couldn't find room on the roster for Gauthier even though guys like Hayes, JvR, Allison, Lemieux, Laczynski and Deslauriers were racking up major minutes.

- Feanor

dare I say danny boy learned his lesson with the Cutter debacle. amazing how bad they screwed that up.

They will likely never recover unless JD turns into a stud.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
I was told on Flyers facebook comments yesterday by multiple Flyers fans that Michkov is going to be better than Bedard. Such a large portion of this fanbase is completely clueless. It’s no wonder the front office gets away with its constant bs.
- hereticpride

Hey now. I’m on record and still stand by it that I think mm can be as good as bedard and maybe better. I still stick with that kinda the Ov/sid debate maybe. But I freely admit I’m a huge mm fan. But if mm doesn’t even approach bedard level I will be first to admit it.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
here is the best one I have heard all year: "Young players means crap, lots of teams have players in the pipeline."
- Flyfly

Agree. Love that arguement
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 2 @ 11:41 AM ET
dare I say danny boy learned his lesson with the Cutter debacle. amazing how bad they screwed that up.

They will likely never recover unless JD turns into a stud.

- hello it's me 2050

Jd isn’t lol. Ana did exactly the opposite of philly. Continued to draft high end talent at d position and flipped one for a stud winger. Because they had so many. Unlike Philly who passes on top end talent possibly because they already have too many same type. So laughable because not only is that stupid but jd/york/andre aren’t better.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 11:47 AM ET
Jd isn’t lol. Ana did exactly the opposite of philly. Continued to draft high end talent at d position and flipped one for a stud winger. Because they had so many. Unlike Philly who passes on top end talent possibly because they already have too many same type. So laughable because not only is that stupid but jd/york/andre aren’t better.
- Stayin alive

flyers are one of the worst run teams in all of sports.

You take the dman. if he is a bust then you live with it really.

I wonder if they even tried to make a trade with someone in the 13-18 range to get an extra pick. Take the d at 12 then trade the florida and col 1dt to get jett. doesn't seem to complicated to me. Then again maybe they just didnt like the dman. Which would speak volumes.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:49 AM ET
Traded Walker knowing that would prob cost them the playoffs which it did. Traded Provy the offseason before for what now looks like a kings ransom. I get these two deals are linked, but they only received long term assets for these players thus the reason why they have 6 picks most likely in the top 40 next year. 6 picks in the top 40. A year that is supposed to be an outstanding draft year. They knowingly took on bad contracts for draft capital eliminating the possibility to sign vets in free agency. I hate to burst ur agenda bubble, but this is indeed a rebuild. Your vs of a rebuild may mean finishing in the bottom 3 of the league which is fair, but the flyers simply have too much young talent to do that right now. Thats just reality. That actually means that the rebuild might just be further along than you think and thats ok. They think Johnson will help the young guys. I get why they signed him. In general, I have no problem with Hathaway after what I saw last season.

Their job right now is to support Michcov. Sorry, but with him they will prob finish on the playoff bubble again. If you dont want that than you must trade Foester, Tipp n York. Is that something you want to do?

- 26912 PP


The flyers have some young talent but not a list young talent. Signing EJ was not needed and a waste of cap space. I don’t have a problem with the thought of signing GH but I don’t like the cap hit.
ND needs to go somewhere other than the flyers lineup.
If Couturier doesn’t have a good season the flyers are going to be bad. I expect him to miss games this year.
If Ersson is not a goalie that can handle a fairly heavy workload without his play dropping then the flyers may get their top 5 pick.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:50 AM ET
I’m not sure I understand the Hathaway deal.

First, can we not develop fourth line guys in our system? Second, that price, a year early, and his age just doesn’t seem prudent. As I have had to say too many times with this team, this isn’t the biggest issue, but all of these little issues can have trickle down effects on larger decisions. I just don’t see the rush nor prudence on this move

- coffee junkie


Their's nothing to get. It's dumb as f@ck and unjustifiable.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 2 @ 11:53 AM ET
Would you trade all the Flyers assets for the Hawks?
- furio16


Why would I, the only player worth a dam on Chicago is Bedard who 1 of 3 player who scores 20 goals or more for them. Which is 1 less than the Flyers.

The teams are the same, the only difference is that Chicago tanked to get a top 3 pick player while the Flyers lucked into getting a top 3 pick player

WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 2 @ 11:57 AM ET
LOL, you need to do some research.
- MJL


That's not how it works. You ask a question, if someone doesn't know the answer you must supply the answer.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:58 AM ET
I 100% think Cutter was a female dog for pulling that move but in hindsight why are we worried about burning a year off his ELC when we’re extending guys like Hathaway and taking cap penalties to be nice to Atkinson???

The more I think about what Briere’s done he’s kind turning into Fletch jr.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:00 PM ET
I 100% think Cutter was a female dog for pulling that move but in hindsight why are we worried about burning a year off his ELC when we’re extending guys like Hathaway and taking cap penalties to be nice to Atkinson???
- hereticpride

cam = well respected vet

cutter = you earn it son
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:02 PM ET
True, but what happens if he a a great year and demands more than a 25k raise. Then you have to either have to pay him or hope to find someone to replace.

He is just a filler on the fourth line

- WhiskeyMan


Then you move on from him. You trade him at the deadline and find someone else at half the price to fill the same roll and get a draft pick in the process.

Agree that he is just a 4th line filler, and you don't pay a guy like that 2.4 million a year. Henrique scored 24 goals and got 3 million.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:04 PM ET
Why would I, the only player worth a dam on Chicago is Bedard
- WhiskeyMan


That's an ignorant statement.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
That's not how it works. You ask a question, if someone doesn't know the answer you must supply the answer.
- WhiskeyMan


LOL
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
Why would I, the only player worth a dam on Chicago is Bedard who 1 of 3 player who scores 20 goals or more for them. Which is 1 less than the Flyers.

The teams are the same, the only difference is that Chicago tanked to get a top 3 pick player while the Flyers lucked into getting a top 3 pick player

- WhiskeyMan



Levshunov
Oliver Moore
Lukas Reichel
Sasha Boisvert
Frank Nazar

Every one of them is better than anything the Flyers have except Michkov.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
cam = well respected vet

cutter = you earn it son

- hello it's me 2050

Not sure if you’re joking or not but we I don’t think Cam earned anything either. Certainly didn’t get the team anywhere…
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
flyers are one of the worst run teams in all of sports.

You take the dman. if he is a bust then you live with it really.

I wonder if they even tried to make a trade with someone in the 13-18 range to get an extra pick. Take the d at 12 then trade the florida and col 1dt to get jett. doesn't seem to complicated to me. Then again maybe they just didnt like the dman. Which would speak volumes.

- hello it's me 2050

Not liking the dman is the only logical reason to pass. Like you said speaks volumes. To be fair maybe that’ll prove right down the line? Either way the thought process is so flawed that given the same scenario in future I have no faith they learned. And here I’ll admit I was sucked in to maybe they starting to get it because they didn’t fuq up mm pick. The more I think about it it was probably forced on them. For marketing purpises
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:06 PM ET
Nick Robertson requested a trade from the leafs.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:07 PM ET
Not sure if you’re joking or not but we I don’t think Cam earned anything either. Certainly didn’t get the team anywhere…
- hereticpride

that thinking is flyers logic.

not mine!!!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:08 PM ET
Then you move on from him. You trade him at the deadline and find someone else at half the price to fill the same roll and get a draft pick in the process.

Agree that he is just a 4th line filler, and you don't pay a guy like that 2.4 million a year. Henrique scored 24 goals and got 3 million.

- MBFlyerfan

you dont win by scoring goals though. .....
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 2 @ 12:08 PM ET
Levshunov
Oliver Moore
Lukas Reichel
Sasha Boisvert
Frank Nazar

Every one of them is better than anything the Flyers have except Michkov.

- MBFlyerfan


"Young players means crap, lots of teams have players in the pipeline." - Whiskey
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:09 PM ET
I 100% think Cutter was a female dog for pulling that move but in hindsight why are we worried about burning a year off his ELC when we’re extending guys like Hathaway and taking cap penalties to be nice to Atkinson???

The more I think about what Briere’s done he’s kind turning into Fletch jr.

- hereticpride

Don’t get caught up in the reasons why? It doesn’t matter. It’s all pr bs on both sides.

At the end of the day the mistake was trading him when they had the 100% control. Cutter or no top 5 prospect nowadays is gonna sit in college for 4 years not burning elc
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Jul 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
TK aside, the state tax exemption is certainly a thing lol you’d be a fool to think otherwise. Folks don’t understand how contract negotiations work either, TK doesn’t think he’s going to get $10M.
- ClaudeFather

as stated, in PA it is only $30k for every million in salary. It is a pimple, but the agents absolutely make it a thing and dumb GMs, which we know a little bit about, fall for this
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Jul 2 @ 12:12 PM ET
LOL
- MJL


I think he’s got you there
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