But why sign bertuzzi to two years too long to get two good years. TT is good but he isn't like an absolute stud persay. I'd imagine he would be a line 1.5 or line 2 guy on a good team. We needed vets but we I think some of these moves were Kyle on a compulsive spending bender. Getting higher the more money he can spend. Lol. I wouldn't have minded seeing stauber as our backup. He actually played well when he was up with us a couple times. Wonder why they chose to keep Soderblom. Stauber actually had great awareness on the ice as a goalie. I felt he was underrated. I read someone in here said the Hawks let him leave. Is this true?
- Hawk4life

If KD didn’t give Bertuzzi 4 years, another team would have.

I wanted deBrusk before he got 7 x 7,
Dots wanted Matchissault, but I know not at 5 x 5 and Stamkos, but not at 4 years.

Tyler Taffoli got 4 x 6 and he is 3 years older than Bertuzzi

The one deal I didn’t like was the Brodie signing, but I now understand it because of the injury concerns on the back end.

I don't think Bedard will break his jaw again on that line.
- rpeters01

If he skates through the middle of the ice with his down he sure will.

If he skates through the middle of the ice with his down he sure will.
- paulr

No way; having a face-puncher on your team eliminates that stuff, Chief.

The prime reason for shelling out the hifh amiunts of cash to show the kid he isn't going to wait for te other prospects to arrive and develop.
They loaded up for connor Bedard to have two entire sets ofwingersand moreguys that shot the thing like NHLers.
All the happy juices from bench mouths of Foligno, D$ ckeson and others are not what will sustain Bedsy's happiness, but team wins will.

Thet spent a load, and it will work to sell more seats and ice a better product.

How much, I dunno, but Connor won't be holding back Kyle's Valentines Day card, like he might've been doing if they stuck with that horrible line-up and added say, just. TT.,

If KD didn’t give Bertuzzi 4 years, another team would have.

I wanted deBrusk before he got 7 x 7,
Dots wanted Matchissault, but I know not at 5 x 5 OR Stamkos, but not at 4 years.

Tyler Taffoli got 4 x 6 and he is 3 years older than Bertuzzi

The one deal I didn’t like was the Brodie signing, but I now understand it because of the injury concerns on the back end.
- LAHawk

You're right the term is too long for those 2 guys. I did want either one but I think KD did the right thing on passing on both of them

The prime reason for shelling out the hifh amiunts of cash to show the kid he isn't going to wait for te other prospects to arrive and develop.
They loaded up for connor Bedard to have two entire sets ofwingersand moreguys that shot the thing like NHLers.
All the happy juices from bench mouths of Foligno, D$ ckeson and others are not what will sustain Bedsy's happiness, but team wins will.

Thet spent a load, and it will work to sell more seats and ice a better product.

How much, I dunno, but Connor won't be holding back Kyle's Valentines Day card, like he might've been doing if they stuck with that horrible line-up and added say, just. TT.,
- wiz1901

But what is Bedard going to do now that his best friend Raddysh is no longer on the team?

I will say I've been a supporter of what Buffalo is doing, i have to ask why aren't they doing anything?

I just loaded Duck Duck Go and there were no pop-ups. It was getting really bad. I kept getting a Norton pop-up that I couldn't X out of. This is great! Oh, and I wanted Bertuzzi last season. He better not let me down.

But what is Bedard going to do now that his best friend Raddysh is no longer on the team?
- Chunk

I think KFC should trade for Tanner Howe. Bedard will be happy!

No way; having a face-puncher on your team eliminates that stuff, Chief.
- mohel

Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that.

The Hawks don't play St. Louis until New Years Eve? What kind of Bs is that?

https://twitter.com/AceTh...1wyt-xrf5dOCpxt4D-uw&s=19

Now i don't know how these players are graded and i don't know who Mitchell Brown is, enjoy, oh and if you tap the picture and swipe left, you'll see Hage and Eisermans grades.

What some folks might remember from when Turbo was with the team in 2014-2015, he can make some crazy good passes. He would find ways to get the puck on teammates sticks when they didn't expect it. I think there might be some good chemistry with Bedard who may find those areas to shoot from if TT can find him with a pass.

What some folks might remember from when Turbo was with the team in 2014-2015, he can make some crazy good passes. He would find ways to get the puck on teammates sticks when they didn't expect it. I think there might be some good chemistry with Bedard who may find those areas to shoot from if TT can find him with a pass.
- breadbag

That and I recall him taking shots from wherever and getting them on net with the goalie being surprised half the time.

Sounds like he's gotten away from that a bit but this guy does have some sneaky good skill. Definitely looking forward to him in a Hawk jersey again.

https://twitter.com/AceTheKiddd/status/1808185294564610132?t=2Q1wyt-xrf5dOCpxt4D-uw&s=19

Now i don't know how these players are graded and i don't know who Mitchell Brown is, enjoy, oh and if you tap the picture and swipe left, you'll see Hage and Eisermans grades.
- BetweenTheDots

I'm sure the Hawks scouts had their own analysis of these guys which they drew their conclusions from. Will be cool to see where they are in a few years.

That and I recall him taking shots from wherever and getting them on net with the goalie being surprised half the time.

Sounds like he's gotten away from that a bit but this guy does have some sneaky good skill. Definitely looking forward to him in a Hawk jersey again.
- HawkintheD

I do remember a few of those no look shots. He would be staring cross ice and just let the wrister go.

I just loaded Duck Duck Go and there were no pop-ups. It was getting really bad. I kept getting a Norton pop-up that I couldn't X out of. This is great! Oh, and I wanted Bertuzzi last season. He better not let me down.
- bjphawkfan

What some folks might remember from when Turbo was with the team in 2014-2015, he can make some crazy good passes. He would find ways to get the puck on teammates sticks when they didn't expect it. I think there might be some good chemistry with Bedard who may find those areas to shoot from if TT can find him with a pass.
- breadbag

Yes Bedard would benefit greatly with a true pass first winger who can make that kinda pass which TT is. Certainly not at the level of Kane or Marner but thats why I think he'll start on Bedards right side with Bertuzzi or Hall playing fetch for the two of them.

https://twitter.com/AceTheKiddd/status/1808185294564610132?t=2Q1wyt-xrf5dOCpxt4D-uw&s=19

Now i don't know how these players are graded and i don't know who Mitchell Brown is, enjoy, oh and if you tap the picture and swipe left, you'll see Hage and Eisermans grades.
- BetweenTheDots

Mitchell Brown is the person who watched the indicated number of minutes and tracked each of those stats on a piece of paper or excel spreadsheet manually.

I love this kind of stuff but no thanks.

I had a bunch of stuff written buuuuut then accidentally logged out here is what I think I mostly wrote and how I would look at the stats:

Carrying puck and decision making - Boisvert maybe more well rounded in terms of results. Very good at controlled entries (so anything not a dump where they maintain posession and get into zone) especially when compared to his teammates.

Unexpected - Everyone talks about his shot and forcing plays but based on the provided stats his cross ice attempts weren't crazy high but his passes into the slot were AND his success rate relative to Hage was better rated.

I'm assuming the OZ retrieval stat is getting dump ins but it's getting the puck somewhere lol so you see constant involvement in the game.

His xP1 involvement - which is expected primary points (goals + primary assists)- is higher than either player so involved directly in more goals than them. Big Arty had a fairly high number here as well apparently.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what the (frank) an off puck assist is.

So his passing is probably underrated and his forcing of plays is probably exaggerated. He is a direct play driver creating opportunities with the puck on his blade and was probably the best player on his team.

I mentioned Arty above but also of note Vanacker had the highest xGF of any other draftee. Boisvert was rated as one of the best forecheckers. Probably some kinda method to Kyles madness. They didn't just pull these guys out of a hat.

In the link below you see Levshunov's name an awful lot. Would think that weighed into their choice combined with the point outcomes, size, skating ability and all that jazz.

edit: also shows that everything that Bill saw related to Lindstrom translated to trackable events and was probably drafted maybe a spot or two late.

edit 2: also everyone thinks that big Arty is going to be this stay at home defensive stud when you look at some of the underlying numbers he drives an absolute poop ton of events on the ozone.

https://nhlentrydraft.com...-analytics-north-america/

edit 3: here's those cards splained https://www.patreon.com/p...new-player-cards-62778012

I think Forsling is a cautionary tale for the coaching staff you employ.

He looked good playing for Q and then had no place with JC. He got stuck at Carolina because there was no space in the roster (which is what some are fearing may happen to Reichel this year) and Q got him again and here we are. If it's someone other than smartest guy in the room JC then maybe he's here long term.

I use Duck Duck Go to block the pop ups.

I'm gonna disagree on the OV portion. That will be very special when he breaks that record and cements himself as the greatest goalscorer of all time. It'll be indisputable at that point. Winning cups is great but that is some serious history as well.

Over the course of Keith's deal - tough to predict he'd need knee surgery at some point - Keith's 13 year deal was a bargain for 10, about par for 1 and maybe an overpayment his last two. You'd take that regression every time.

Signing Seabrook who was gonna be over 30 to that deal when you could see signs of more serious regression was not smart. Keeping Patrick Sharp too long was a problem. Missing on 3 and 8 when they had the opportunity to reload on the fly was very bad.

But generally speaking theyre going to get capped at some point and hopefully they have the right guys locked in.
- fattybeef

You have a valid point on Ovie.

On the Hawks end I don't see the difference in who's calling the shots if we are going to go back into cap he'll at some point. Why not Davidson the moneyball of hockey and take it further to where the Hawks are fighting to win a cup year over year. I don't see any bad deal of going to a certain age on guys but at some point it has to be expected that the team shouldn't push deals like a Seabrook from age 32 to 40 on a defenseman. I don't see any of these deals hamstringing us now but we need to play wisely to not strap ourselves because I could see at least 45% of our roster being utilized on the drafts recently and are current young guns. 12 of those at 6M a piece is a big chunk of roster. At some point some of these kids have to say I'll play for a little less to win a cup and stay with the current winning roster and culture. Think the previous dynasty we just had with Kane and toews and Keith, and Seabrook, hammer, and so forth. That's expensive. Maybe going the Atlanta braves route of signing these kids long long term before they even finish their first year. The Atlanta braves baseball team has gotten massive discounts on basically the whole roster because they are all young and sign that stability long term deal. Maybe right out of the gate you sign bedard for 13 years at 5M a year. Or whatever. You get my point. Sign Nazar long term now for a long haul and save a ton of money on car insurance. Lol. Kidding. But there's gotta be a way. I prefer not to see the garbage moves we had with bowman paying guys for loyalty and paying guys for future performance under the contract not past performance. We did right on a few deals under bowman like the hammer deal. Obviously Murphy sucks but we also still got something for hammer before his body fell apart. I think bowman did contracts for Kane and toews and Keith right but he kind of just went on a bender handing out long term contracts to warm bodies found on the side of the rode. He made a few decent trades and he found panarin and brought him here. He did get screwed on both Saad deals and they were Saad deals. I just hope that Davidson doesn't just go on a spending bender signing guys long term for no reason. Maybe this is just to hold us as super glue until everything is ready. Then you rip the glue off and start a new with a star built roster.

Detroit signed Motte to a one year deal.

Detroit signed Motte to a one year deal.
- DarthKane

He stinks. No idea what they are doing. Maybe Yzerman is not having fun in Detroit and wants to leave. Or he had a lobotomy done. He did well in Tampa. I think Tampa still has a nice core. They did right by letting stamkos go. Loyalty is great and all but he's going to lose a step or two. Although he may put money in the seats he may hold them back from icing another younger kid. They always seem to have something and someone coming through their system. If we could follow tb system that would be amazing.

Yo VAbear, 32 thoughts on the June 30th post draft podcast opens with Friedman talking about the draft not being centralized from now on. Worth the 2-3 minute listen.

No Marek on the pod so Friedman was alone which means zero nonsense and two nerds trying to be hip. A quick 18:00 pod pre free agency and a helluva lotta scoop. Well worth the listen. https://open.spotify.com/...ow/7j9CZOPTcoVUVslvqKBu9x

I do remember a few of those no look shots. He would be staring cross ice and just let the wrister go.
- breadbag

Yeah that's exactly right. Seem to recall him scoring on one of those in either the Ducks or Lightning series.

What some folks might remember from when Turbo was with the team in 2014-2015, he can make some crazy good passes. He would find ways to get the puck on teammates sticks when they didn't expect it. I think there might be some good chemistry with Bedard who may find those areas to shoot from if TT can find him with a pass.
- breadbag

TT is an explosive quick twitch athlete. It allows him to be lightning quick suddenly and that puts all 6 opponents on their heels. For a goalie if he's moving slightly his weight is not on his skates in a position to move or react quickly to a puck suddenly coming at him. Same for Dmen and forwards, the sudden 1-2 ft burst opens lanes cuz they can't react quick enough.

Indeed, TT caught many a goalie unprepared and flat footed when he fires unexpectedly...... Reichel was blessed with that rare quick twitch too. He can learn a lot watching and talking to TT.