Would be good filler for the new broadcast network (Chicago Sports Network).
- Revco38

I really wish the Hawks didn’t agree to get lumped into the network with the paltry white Sox and middling bulls. Dilutes the brand being associated with garbage like the white Sox. They could have a stand-alone over-the-top streaming option like Marquee, albeit for a cheaper subscription price. Heck they could even have a joint venture with the Bulls and call it United or Madison or something. Instead we’ll just get more B level looking broadcasts.

I really wish the Hawks didn’t agree to get lumped into the network with the paltry white Sox and middling bulls. Dilutes the brand being associated with garbage like the white Sox. They could have a stand-alone over-the-top streaming option like Marquee, albeit for a cheaper subscription price. Heck they could even have a joint venture with the Bulls and call it United or Madison or something. Instead we’ll just get more B level looking broadcasts.
- ObeseOprah

How many hockey teams can drive that much viewership? Heck, there aren't that many baseball teams that really can. In terms of the option being viable this probably makes the most sense - flawed as it may be.

Hawks let Forsling go 6 yrs ago when he was 22 after VAN drafted him in rd 5 in 2014. Phillips is 22 and will turn 23 in September.
- Mr Ricochet

and doesn't shoot the puck clocked at 96 mph like Forsling

RIP CapFriendly. I'll miss you.
- boilermaker100

yeah, i just got the wake up call when I just tried to go in....

I really wish the Hawks didn’t agree to get lumped into the network with the paltry white Sox and middling bulls. Dilutes the brand being associated with garbage like the white Sox. They could have a stand-alone over-the-top streaming option like Marquee, albeit for a cheaper subscription price. Heck they could even have a joint venture with the Bulls and call it United or Madison or something. Instead we’ll just get more B level looking broadcasts.
- ObeseOprah

Dallas Stars just released something where you can watch them i believe for free, let me see if i can find it

https://twitter.com/Kings...jshdsO_CQUYMp91o576g&s=19

I still think that Dach turns out to be a decent NHL player if he can ever stay healthy. Montreal will have a very good team in the next couple of years.
- Angotti

I don't disagree. 45-60 points you'll never remember but he should have a long a pretty solid career if he can string some 70+ game seasons together. Certainly not a comparable to a Getzlaf or Thornton. Safe pick just didn't work out for the player and club at the time unfortunately.

I really wish the Hawks didn’t agree to get lumped into the network with the paltry white Sox and middling bulls. Dilutes the brand being associated with garbage like the white Sox. They could have a stand-alone over-the-top streaming option like Marquee, albeit for a cheaper subscription price. Heck they could even have a joint venture with the Bulls and call it United or Madison or something. Instead we’ll just get more B level looking broadcasts.
- ObeseOprah

Reinsdorf is a cheap ass so that is a valid concern.

I was also. In a full blown rebuild, and faced with that decision, I would always go over develop vs. rush a player. That stupid rule hurts good players, and I believe hurt Kirby Dach, and also KK. Both would have benefited to be in Rockford over their Jr team or the NHL. We'll watch to see if they are effected long term.

Its why I would tell every young player not to stay in Canada. Go USHL, College then decide what is best for you career, at least that way, you have a choice and are free.

Arty is the perfect example, even if he isn't Canadian.
- vabeachbear

Just in case it wasn't an oversight, there is only one entity that a kid gets drafted out of that can't go to the AHL at 19 and 20 yrs old and that's the CHL (which is comprised of 3 leagues, the QMJHL, WHL and OHL).

That's it. In any other league in any country that you are drafted out of, no matter your nationality, you can play AHL the very next yr except for the CHL due to the NHL-CHL Agreement.

The more I watch TT highlights and read about his time in CAR, the more I think he's one of the best wingers the Hawks could have signed for Bedard. A high skill player, who is a bit smaller, but has learned to play very well defensively.
- Chunk

100% agree, Chunk. Absolutely loved signing TT not just for an upgrade in roster talent but a particularly good signing for Bedard.....

Besides Hall, TT has all the traits needed to unlock Bedard's talents. TT has the speed, hands/skill to go along with plus IQ to give Bedard all he needs to work off of. And as of today I'd slot Bertuzzi with them to make a classic line of a guy who will win pucks, get them to the dish man who feeds the goal scorer.

How many hockey teams can drive that much viewership? Heck, there aren't that many baseball teams that really can. In terms of the option being viable this probably makes the most sense - flawed as it may be.
- Chunk

It’s the power franchises that can generate enough viewers to have their own network. Yankees, Dodgers, Cubs, etc. I like the partnership with the Chicago 3.

and doesn't shoot the puck clocked at 96 mph like Forsling
- wiz1901

But Phillips has a hard shot too, just not in Forsling stratosphere

Reinsdorf is a cheap ass so that is a valid concern.
- fattybeef

You haven't looked at the Bulls players salaries the last few years and signing Zach Levine to a max contract was a terrible mistake.

Just in case it wasn't an oversight, there is only one entity that a kid gets drafted out of that can't go to the AHL at 19 and 20 yrs old and that's the CHL (which is comprised of 3 leagues, the QMJHL, WHL and OHL).

That's it. In any other league in any country that you are drafted out of, no matter your nationality, you can play AHL the very next yr except for the CHL due to the NHL-CHL Agreement.
- Mr Ricochet

You’re seeing high end talent now going the college route, the NHL/CHL agreement may need some changes. I’m not saying that all 19 year olds should be able to play in the AHL, but some kind of alteration to the agreement needs to be made, however I’m not sure what that should be. I understand why that agreement initially came to light, but the college game is definitely now attracting some of the best Canadian and American kids, heck, even Belarusians.

Reinsdorf is a cheap ass so that is a valid concern.
- fattybeef

That Bozo should sell both the Sox and Bulls. That BUM is running both teams into the abyss. It's evident he doesn't care about the fans. Fawk Reinsdorf that's why I won't support either team until either he sells or starts pushing up daisy's

You’re seeing high end talent now going the college route, the NHL/CHL agreement may need some changes. I’m not saying that all 19 year olds should be able to play in the AHL, but some kind of alteration to the agreement needs to be made, however I’m not sure what that should be. I understand why that agreement initially came to light, but the college game is definitely now attracting some of the best Canadian and American kids, heck, even Belarusians.
- Angotti

Celebrini was a outlier with regards to Canadian talent going to the NCAA. Usually if a Canadian player goes the NCAA route, he will not be invited to the Canadian national team unless he is well above average, as Celebrini was. These politics have been a point of contention in the past on previous WJ teams that have lost.

Levshunov would have gone to the CHL if he was allowed to be drafted in the CHL European draft, but he went the USHL/NCAA. Russians and Belorussians can't be drafted in the European draft right now.

Right now the Canadians that go the USHL/BCJHL route to get to the NCAA are those that feel they need the college backup in case their NHL aspirations are derailed. I used to work with a father whose son went the NCAA route because his kid probably wouldn't make the NHL, and he didn't.

https://www.moosejawtoday...s-a-top-five-pick-9147523

"Artyom Levshunov hoped to play juniors in the Canadian Hockey League, knowing it could lead to his dreams of becoming a professional hockey player.

However, because of CHL rules restricting Belarussians and Russians from competing because of the war in Ukraine, he had no other choice but to go the USHL and U.S. college route, if he wanted to develop his game in North America."

How about Reichel???
- Chunk

Jhawk59, Korchinski hha the feet to play much better defensively, but even with a couple vet forwards in the pree ox each night, there is no reason try and push Slagertt or any hogs, because they are right up the highwy.

Slaggert hanging around is... an easy call up and car ride NW on the pike, unless a fill in.

All this EDM gets old guys like me confused, as Edmtn and EDM is what I envision.
EdM would be DeMastro is able in the minor pro to quiick down a ememy team's rallly, and has a physical presence, while the othher kid, Phillips is very eager to do all the ice,
Spend high energy doing so, try hard to get smarter and better.
I won't take it way from either of them, or Roos, who gave his all in the entergetic ways as Phillips.
Will Rockford be the destination of this boards meet-up in April?

It may be a fub team to see.

Ely, could you gets info ?

Celebrini was a outlier with regards to Canadian talent going to the NCAA. Usually if a Canadian player goes the NCAA route, he will not be invited to the Canadian national team unless he is well above average, as Celebrini was. These politics have been a point of contention in the past on previous WJ teams that have lost.

Levshunov would have gone to the CHL if he was allowed to be drafted in the CHL European draft, but he went the USHL/NCAA. Russians and Belorussians can't be drafted in the European draft right now.

Right now the Canadians that go the USHL/BCJHL route to get to the NCAA are those that feel they need the college backup in case their NHL aspirations are derailed. I used to work with a father whose son went the NCAA route because his kid probably wouldn't make the NHL, and he didn't.
- wizardofi

Because an nhl career and a college degree are mutually exclusive?

Do you think all things being equal, teams will draft prospects in, going to college for the reason you stated, the team (generally, you do have the Gaithier/McGroaty issue of the prospect saying no way I am playing for your team) has more flexibility in the further development of the prospect?
- LAHawk

Its interesting counter to my point. Not knowing the numbers, and way too busy these days to try and find them, I wonder what the ratio is of guys who are hurt by not being able to play in the AHL vs. how many college guys go 4 years then refuse to play for the team that drafted them.

Then after you look at those numbers, how many of them had a successful vs. failed career.

Be interesting I guess. Assuming proper front offices know these numbers.

What hurt Dach was breaking his wrist.

Korch did a lot of things very well and a lot of things poorly. I think he looked more like a NHL player than Reichel. Both probably benefit from playing with other guys who are where they are supposed to be on the ice and who support the defensive side better.

The benefit just being able to exit the zone will bring should elevate everyone. Vlasic doubling his point total from last year would be a good bet based alone on the fact that there will be guys who can finish and make teams pay for triple teaming Bedard.
- fattybeef

While Dachs injury was a setback, you'll never convince me, nor will I be able to prove it, but that best thing for him would've been to go to Rockford for at least a year. I would even argue going back to jrs for a year, and Rockford for a year and he would be a different player.

Just in case it wasn't an oversight, there is only one entity that a kid gets drafted out of that can't go to the AHL at 19 and 20 yrs old and that's the CHL (which is comprised of 3 leagues, the QMJHL, WHL and OHL).

That's it. In any other league in any country that you are drafted out of, no matter your nationality, you can play AHL the very next yr except for the CHL due to the NHL-CHL Agreement.
- Mr Ricochet

Yes that is what I'm referring to

Celebrini was a outlier with regards to Canadian talent going to the NCAA. Usually if a Canadian player goes the NCAA route, he will not be invited to the Canadian national team unless he is well above average, as Celebrini was. These politics have been a point of contention in the past on previous WJ teams that have lost.

Levshunov would have gone to the CHL if he was allowed to be drafted in the CHL European draft, but he went the USHL/NCAA. Russians and Belorussians can't be drafted in the European draft right now.

Right now the Canadians that go the USHL/BCJHL route to get to the NCAA are those that feel they need the college backup in case their NHL aspirations are derailed. I used to work with a father whose son went the NCAA route because his kid probably wouldn't make the NHL, and he didn't.
- wizardofi

We'll agree to disagree, I just know if it was me, and my kid had a good chance of playing in the NHL, I'd go the USHL and College route to give me the most flexibility when the decision time comes.

Other factors like NIL money would come into play, but I would want the most flexibility i could get to leave all my options open.

CHL doesn't give me flexibility. Obviously all options when you are good get you to the NHL so not saying CHL is wrong, in fact I would argue that getting rid of that rule would make CHL the best route

Link to an article from the hockey news

https://thehockeynews.com...peline-bursts-with-talent


Strengths
The Blackhawks have a surplus of talent up front. Even though many of the players they have in the system won’t reach their top-end potential, there are so many quality forwards that they will be injecting youth up front for years to come.

Weaknesses
Even after adding Levshunov, the Blackhawks' defense pipeline is still a weakness. It’s certainly improved over the last couple of years, but there is still work to do in terms of adding talent.
Korchinski and Vlasic are already on the NHL roster, but neither look like true top-pair D-men, and Levshunov more than likely tops out as a No. 2. The Hawks could use a true No. 1 defender

Gotta say, after they went after Levshunov, I wouldn't think of their D as a weakness.
Maybe I'm wrong,but they seem like they have a good amount of talent/depth.
I'm more worried about their fwds

While Dachs injury was a setback, you'll never convince me, nor will I be able to prove it, but that best thing for him would've been to go to Rockford for at least a year. I would even argue going back to jrs for a year, and Rockford for a year and he would be a different player.
- vabeachbear

Dach was definitely brought up too early and he should have gone back to junior, not Rockford. He wasn’t physically ready to play against men, he was bounced around like a rag doll and in Rockford it could have been much worse than the NHL. He was also not a dominant player at 18, he wasn’t ready to play pro at any level.

We'll agree to disagree, I just know if it was me, and my kid had a good chance of playing in the NHL, I'd go the USHL and College route to give me the most flexibility when the decision time comes.

Other factors like NIL money would come into play, but I would want the most flexibility i could get to leave all my options open.

CHL doesn't give me flexibility. Obviously all options when you are good get you to the NHL so not saying CHL is wrong, in fact I would argue that getting rid of that rule would make CHL the best route
- vabeachbear

Overall I think the CHL/NHL rule is good one. It’s designed to protect the league because you know many teams would screw around with the players bouncing them up and down from the NHL to CHL. If all the top players in junior were brought up to play in the NHL or AHL, the quality of the CHL on ice product would suffer and the fan base won’t support it. A major concession is allowing 18 year olds to play in the NHL if they’re ready. Most 18 and 19 year olds are not physically ready to play in pro hockey especially the AHL which is more physical and dirty than the NHL. The CHL is also structured to include time for school, which is hard if not impossible to mandate in professional hockey.

I have always believed the College route is preferable because of the education. Anything can happen even to the most talented players so the education offered by going the College route offers a backup. But the CHL is very important to feed the NHL. I’m not sure if the CHL wasn’t available College could take the hundreds of players currently in the CHL.