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Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:50 PM ET
All these youngerish players need to get NHL time to figure out if any fit going forward.

They have so many of the same type players yet it will be a Brink type that will end up sitting. Not that there is a ton of quality, there is a lot of bodies.

- furio16

Flyers blueprint for success
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 7 @ 7:53 PM ET
Anxious to see what MJL would say about this. He said they don't have to trade anyone.

My guess, send ND to AHL and sit Hathay.

That would leave Laughton, RP and Cates on the 4th line.

- WhiskeyMan

Zero chance nd gets sent to ahl. You don’t do that to culture guy
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 7 @ 8:11 PM ET
Zero chance nd gets sent to ahl. You don’t do that to culture guy
- Stayin alive


I agree they wont send him down.

From what hear, Farabee is a glue guy for the young players. They all go to his house to play video games instead of going out to bars. It was even reported that fedotov was hanging out with him at development camp.

Laughton is the odd man out. He has to be traded.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 7 @ 10:13 PM ET
I agree they wont send him down.

From what hear, Farabee is a glue guy for the young players. They all go to his house to play video games instead of going out to bars. It was even reported that fedotov was hanging out with him at development camp.

Laughton is the odd man out. He has to be traded.

- WhiskeyMan

Although I feel like Farabee has yet to live up to his deal, Farabee’s offensive numbers suggest he’s able to have a breakout season. He’s only improved the last 3 seasons. I’d be looking to move TK now! If there is a market for Laughton, he’s gotta go. If Morgan Frost isn’t going to be properly used, goodbye to him as well…although he just might be ready to breakout as well.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 7 @ 10:14 PM ET
I agree they wont send him down.

From what hear, Farabee is a glue guy for the young players. They all go to his house to play video games instead of going out to bars. It was even reported that fedotov was hanging out with him at development camp.

Laughton is the odd man out. He has to be traded.

- WhiskeyMan

But pride night would suffer. Good for pr. 5 year extension seems fair
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 7 @ 10:18 PM ET
Although I feel like Farabee has yet to live up to his deal, Farabee’s offensive numbers suggest he’s able to have a breakout season. He’s only improved the last 3 seasons. I’d be looking to move TK now! If there is a market for Laughton, he’s gotta go. If Morgan Frost isn’t going to be properly used, goodbye to him as well…although he just might be ready to breakout as well.
- roenick97

The only thing I hope for at this point is since they aren’t trading anyone that they have an epic failure to start the season and db gets roasted and by time home game 2 they are booing them off the ice
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Jul 7 @ 10:28 PM ET
Last 2 drafts
Mm
Bonk
Jett

Will smith
Quentin musty
Celebrini
Richardinson

‘25 draft 3first


‘25 draft 2 first.

Guess the smart team and the horrible team
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 8 @ 6:57 AM ET
I wonder why Fletcher didn’t sign Gauthier to an ELC immediately after his first development camp? Seems like a no brainier to lock up his his top 5 draft pick as soon as he could since Fletcher apparently promised the kid a roster spot after his first season.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 8 @ 6:59 AM ET
Although I feel like Farabee has yet to live up to his deal, Farabee’s offensive numbers suggest he’s able to have a breakout season. He’s only improved the last 3 seasons. I’d be looking to move TK now! If there is a market for Laughton, he’s gotta go. If Morgan Frost isn’t going to be properly used, goodbye to him as well…although he just might be ready to breakout as well.
- roenick97

I think given the Flyers lack of center depth they have to hold on to Frost, especially since he is the only center I think they have that can play with Michkov.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 8 @ 7:03 AM ET
6 picks in the first two rounds of the 2025 draft and no serious free agent signing is not proof they are in a rebuild? Trading Sean Walker at the deadline for a 1st round pick when the team with him would have made the playoffs, is not proof of a rebuild?

Now if you tell me the Flyers don't seem to be completely committed to a rebuild given they have not moved out more players, I agree with you. That is why to me I am judging Briere on what he does the rest of this off season and at the deadline. If he does not do whatever he can to assure that this team is picking in the top 10, perferably in the top 5, I will have lost faith in him and will no longer support his plan. Torts can still coach to win every game and the players should be exepcted to play as hard as they can, but in the end the Flyers will not win many games because they simply will not have the horses, because Briere will trade as many veteran horses as he can. That is how it has to be IMO.
- jd250


First sentence, second paragraph… so as it stands today you agree this is not a rebuild?

- Flyfly

It’s just like I stated, if Briere does not trade more veteran players and get this team into the top 10, his rebuild plan as I understand it makes zero sense to me. Picking 16th does not move the needle and get you elite talent, unless you get extremely lucky.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 7:43 AM ET
I wonder why Fletcher didn’t sign Gauthier to an ELC immediately after his first development camp? Seems like a no brainier to lock up his his top 5 draft pick as soon as he could since Fletcher apparently promised the kid a roster spot after his first season.
- jd250



Are you ever going to get anything right? Anything at all?
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jul 8 @ 7:53 AM ET
https://www.yardbarker.co...s_mania/s1_17219_40572023

Suddenly, an expected boring season of mediocrity has turned into must-see hockey.
..
But even Lindros didn’t turn the Flyers into instant contenders. Remember?


The Flyers have already kicked off their PR campaign through the local media. Invoking Lindros when talking about Michkov as the only reason to watch the Flyers in 2024-25 and using "mediocrity" to describe the rest of the roster. No mention of Tippet, Koneckny, etc. Name checked Lindros's linemates tho.

They have set expectations so low that if the worst happens, it's to be expected, but if this team matches last year's total (very likely they are around the same area) the fans will probably push Torts for coach of the year again. It's a disservice to the younger players but it insulates the triumvirate from any bad press.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 7:55 AM ET
https://www.yardbarker.co...s_mania/s1_17219_40572023

Suddenly, an expected boring season of mediocrity has turned into must-see hockey.

The Flyers have already kicked off their PR campaign through the local media. Invoking Lindros when talking about Michkov as the only reason to watch the Flyers in 2024-25 and using "mediocrity" to describe the rest of the roster. No mention of Tippet, Koneckny, etc. Name checked Lindros's linemates tho.

They have set expectations so low that if the worst happens, it's to be expected, but if this team matches last year's total (very likely they are around the same area) the fans will probably push Torts for coach of the year again. It's a disservice to the younger players but it insulates the triumvirate from any bad press.

- Flyers_01



I believe the Flyers are going to drop in the standings some this year compared to last season.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 8 @ 8:01 AM ET
I wonder why Fletcher didn’t sign Gauthier to an ELC immediately after his first development camp? Seems like a no brainier to lock up his his top 5 draft pick as soon as he could since Fletcher apparently promised the kid a roster spot after his first season.
- jd250



Because he was a college player?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 8 @ 8:03 AM ET
Because he was a college player?
- MBFlyerfan

Yes, that's right. I looked this up this morning because I was curious. Ok, can't beat on Fletcher for this one :-)
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 8 @ 8:03 AM ET
Are you ever going to get anything right? Anything at all?
- MJL

I just asked a question. I'm not an ELC expert like you are.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 8:03 AM ET
Yes, that's right. I looked this up this morning because I was curious. Ok, can't beat on Fletcher for this one :-)
- jd250


Won't stop you in the future. You'll continue to make inaccurate statements.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 8 @ 8:04 AM ET
I just asked a question. I'm not an ELC expert like you are.
- jd250



Don't have to be an expert at anything. Just need to be aware of the facts and have some common sense.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 8 @ 8:05 AM ET
I believe the Flyers are going to drop in the standings some this year compared to last season.
- MJL

Yes, but my concern is will they drop enough to get a chance at an elite player? I think Briere has got to make more trades to give himself the best chance. I think he knows it also.
darkerens
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.24.2017

Jul 8 @ 8:06 AM ET
The NHL rewards tanking, and only tanking. Chicago, Edmonton, Avs, Pit, Tampa, SJ,…Keeping veterans with trade value is not a rebuild, and it is exactly what has kept this team mediocre for so long…that and ridiculous salary cap management which also continues unabated. The more things change the more they stay the same. NOBODY should be receiving long term high dollar deals that is above the age of 25. Couterier? Huge mistake. Risto? Huge mistake. Konecny? Probably another huge mistake. This team never seems to learn from its mistakes and is obsessed with making the same ones over and over again. What is Laughton and Konecny and Coots and Risto and Ellis and that goalie that is so terrible, makes $5m a year and i can’t even remember his name still doing here? We need a young 1st line center, we have Konecny and 6 picks in the 1st two rounds to trade. What’s the holdup? Add Frost to that list too.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Jul 8 @ 8:07 AM ET
The last scrimmage of development camp should be everyone sitting in the press box while old veteran grinders with no future in the sport play. This will actually prepare them for what the organization is really like.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 8 @ 8:10 AM ET
I wonder why Fletcher didn’t sign Gauthier to an ELC immediately after his first development camp? Seems like a no brainier to lock up his his top 5 draft pick as soon as he could since Fletcher apparently promised the kid a roster spot after his first season.
- jd250


The point I don’t get ….Briere was the assistant GM at the time ? No? He would have been privy to what was being said to him and what was “promised”.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 8 @ 8:13 AM ET
The last scrimmage of development camp should be everyone sitting in the press box while old veteran grinders with no future in the sport play. This will actually prepare them for what the organization is really like.
- Shrike



landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 8 @ 8:13 AM ET
Yes, but my concern is will they drop enough to get a chance at an elite player? I think Briere has got to make more trades to give himself the best chance. I think he knows it also.
- jd250



Maybe he could start with one trade….maybe move “one” guy that hurts….you know to get the whole rebuild off and running.
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