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hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:30 PM ET
I'd be surprised if he didn't get one. Every indication is they are letting him choose what he wants to do.
- Tojo.

Yeah I was just joking...he sure does deserve to call his own shots
hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Jul 8 @ 6:33 PM ET
Not every team gives their captain NMC/NTC and then tries to trade them.
- Feds91Stammer

Like Callahan. McDonagh and now Trouba...hey you gotta do what's best for the team but I disagree with trading Trouba this yr make that move after this season when he has 1 yr left
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 8 @ 6:47 PM ET
Like Callahan. McDonagh and now Trouba...hey you gotta do what's best for the team but I disagree with trading Trouba this yr make that move after this season when he has 1 yr left
- hfc355

Too bad they suck no matter what they do.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 8 @ 7:09 PM ET
Pipeline is strong in net. Hopefully Jarry salvages some trade value this year and they can roll with Murashov and Blomqvist by 2026.
- abasin

I like Blomquist and Myrashov more than I liked Murray and Jarry at the same age
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 8 @ 7:58 PM ET
Dude these pop ups on this site are getting unbareable. How do I fix it? I’m using chrome on an iPhone…
mkrisnosky
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 03.24.2013

Jul 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
That's 100% the way to look at it.
- Aaron_85


I vividly remember the time frame when the Sid lottery was won. This was a team that just almost relocated. It was still a fresh wound that jagrs salary was shed in a salary dump. The thought of paying a star a lot of money seemed so far away. I vividly remember thinking that maybe they could keep Crosby and Malkin together for 5 or 6 years. My expectations have been greatly exceeded
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 8 @ 8:28 PM ET
Dude these pop ups on this site are getting unbareable. How do I fix it? I’m using chrome on an iPhone…
- Brownsoldier


Brave browser.
Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Altoona
Joined: 06.30.2015

Jul 8 @ 9:57 PM ET
Brave browser.
- madmike71


We’re back, boys! It works flawlessly.
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Jul 8 @ 10:35 PM ET
I like Blomquist and Myrashov more than I liked Murray and Jarry at the same age
- Tojo.


Murray was a beast in the A, I thought he was going to be more like he was his first 2 seasons. At least we got those out of him before he mentally derailed.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 8 @ 11:01 PM ET
Murray was a beast in the A, I thought he was going to be more like he was his first 2 seasons. At least we got those out of him before he mentally derailed.
- 10inchTerror

Murray was a monster for 3-4 years and absolutely earned his shot. But he was a pretty lousy goalie in the OHL. So there was a chance he figured it out, but also a chance he'd revert back into a pumpkin.

Now Blomqvist and Murashov, they have been steady their entire careers. So I love our chances that at least one becomes an above average starter.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 9 @ 7:36 AM ET
Too bad they suck no matter what they do.
- Feds91Stammer


hahaha
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 9 @ 7:45 AM ET
Murray was a monster for 3-4 years and absolutely earned his shot. But he was a pretty lousy goalie in the OHL. So there was a chance he figured it out, but also a chance he'd revert back into a pumpkin.

Now Blomqvist and Murashov, they have been steady their entire careers. So I love our chances that at least one becomes an above average starter.

- Tojo.

Once the league figured out Murray's glove side was like a crumbled muffin, he was done. He never fixed his glove side and than the injuries started to come.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 9 @ 7:48 AM ET
Chronologically, yes, but in all reality, this era ends with how you choose to remember it. If you are going to choose to remember the last 3-4 years of the team not making the playoffs then that sucks for you. This era is going to end with 3 Stanley Cups, a 4th finals appearance, multiple deep playoff runs, at least two HOF'ers playing in Pens jerseys for their entire career. In all reality this era of Penguins hockey, far eclipses just about every fanbases hopes and dreams for their team.
- j.boyd919



Fvck yeah, great post. I think my experiences with Mario's health scares and retirements, Jagr leaving the way he did and then also the threats of relocation made me just appreciate Sid and Geno even more. It really is special if they play their entire careers with the Pens.

No guarantees with rebuilds at all. I know you know that but it seems a lot of people don't get it. They could trade Sid for a massive package and still not win another cup for decades haha.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Jul 9 @ 9:21 AM ET
Fvck yeah, great post. I think my experiences with Mario's health scares and retirements, Jagr leaving the way he did and then also the threats of relocation made me just appreciate Sid and Geno even more. It really is special if they play their entire careers with the Pens.

No guarantees with rebuilds at all. I know you know that but it seems a lot of people don't get it. They could trade Sid for a massive package and still not win another cup for decades haha.

- MattStrat


The good thing about how Dubas is doing things is, he could totally pivot on a slow rebuild into going for it in a year. Or, we could go the other way and totally tear it down.

Two biggest wildcards for us are:
1. Yager & Bloomqvists ability to break through into the NHL.
2. Graves ability to bounce back and become a solid 2LD for us.

If young guys can break through, it will accelerate any "rebuild" and encourage Dubas to add talent to the team and try to compete. If Graves can step it up and be more productive he goes from a salary dump to a productive contract it becomes one less area for us to focus cap space on and we can put more money into the forward group.

It would be really awesome if we could at least see the same transition of hope we got with Mario handing off to Sid. There might not be a generational talent in the cards for us but it would be cool to see a year or two of Sid & Yager and Malkin & Howe going out there together and playing some good hockey. I mention those two players specifically because I do think they both have a special quality to them and could see them becoming very productive sooner than later.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jul 9 @ 9:57 AM ET
The good thing about how Dubas is doing things is, he could totally pivot on a slow rebuild into going for it in a year. Or, we could go the other way and totally tear it down.

Two biggest wildcards for us are:
1. Yager & Bloomqvists ability to break through into the NHL.
2. Graves ability to bounce back and become a solid 2LD for us.

If young guys can break through, it will accelerate any "rebuild" and encourage Dubas to add talent to the team and try to compete. If Graves can step it up and be more productive he goes from a salary dump to a productive contract it becomes one less area for us to focus cap space on and we can put more money into the forward group.

It would be really awesome if we could at least see the same transition of hope we got with Mario handing off to Sid. There might not be a generational talent in the cards for us but it would be cool to see a year or two of Sid & Yager and Malkin & Howe going out there together and playing some good hockey. I mention those two players specifically because I do think they both have a special quality to them and could see them becoming very productive sooner than later.

- MacPatty

I'm still learning about Howe. Seems a stretch he's ready before Malkin retires. It is nice that he can turn pro next year though.

Yager I do want sharing a lockerroom with Sid. He's not a generational talent, but he does share that type of work ethic and dedication to the details of his game.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 9 @ 10:33 AM ET
Fvck yeah, great post. I think my experiences with Mario's health scares and retirements, Jagr leaving the way he did and then also the threats of relocation made me just appreciate Sid and Geno even more. It really is special if they play their entire careers with the Pens.

No guarantees with rebuilds at all. I know you know that but it seems a lot of people don't get it. They could trade Sid for a massive package and still not win another cup for decades haha.

- MattStrat

You can draft LaFrenière, Bedard, Matthews, Celebrini and even McDavid and don't win the ultimate prize. It's a tough league. No guarantees at all. We are VERY lucky to have Crosby and Malkin. We've seen 3 cups with this core group. And I'm not even mentioning Letang as Hainsey/Schultz/Daley proved we didn't need a top top defenseman to win it all. Some will say we were lucky but our group played the right way.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
You can draft LaFrenière, Bedard, Matthews, Celebrini and even McDavid and don't win the ultimate prize. It's a tough league. No guarantees at all. We are VERY lucky to have Crosby and Malkin. We've seen 3 cups with this core group. And I'm not even mentioning Letang as Hainsey/Schultz/Daley proved we didn't need a top top defenseman to win it all. Some will say we were lucky but our group played the right way.
- Barnaby36


No, we were definitely lucky for the cup without Letang lol
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 9 @ 11:00 AM ET
Chronologically, yes, but in all reality, this era ends with how you choose to remember it. If you are going to choose to remember the last 3-4 years of the team not making the playoffs then that sucks for you. This era is going to end with 3 Stanley Cups, a 4th finals appearance, multiple deep playoff runs, at least two HOF'ers playing in Pens jerseys for their entire career. In all reality this era of Penguins hockey, far eclipses just about every fanbases hopes and dreams for their team.
- j.boyd919

I’d be just as happy to see the two HoF’ers Sid and Letang leave and finish out their careers playing in the playoffs. If they truly want to stay in Pit I’m cool with that too. Sullivan ushering in another round of guys taught to be satisfied losing is where it all falls apart for me. Give them a team with some balls if nothing else.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jul 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
We’re back, boys! It works flawlessly.
- Brownsoldier


Nice. I love Brave.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Jul 9 @ 11:48 AM ET
We could finish the season 0-82 and I'd still have nothing but love for this era of Penguins hockey. We arent going to go out competing and that's okay, all NHL runs come to an end. Its how North American sports leagues are set up.

I was one of the people advocating to resign Malkin/Letang and I dont think that was the wrong move.

This era gave us 3 Cups, 4 Cup appearances, and for me personally, that happened during my young adult years which made it even more fun.

I think the deal gets done at around $10M/year and Sid deserves that and more. I wonder if he'd consider investing in FSG. LeBron is already a part owner as well.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 9 @ 11:55 AM ET
You can draft LaFrenière, Bedard, Matthews, Celebrini and even McDavid and don't win the ultimate prize. It's a tough league. No guarantees at all. We are VERY lucky to have Crosby and Malkin. We've seen 3 cups with this core group. And I'm not even mentioning Letang as Hainsey/Schultz/Daley proved we didn't need a top top defenseman to win it all. Some will say we were lucky but our group played the right way.
- Barnaby36

You had us in the first half.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jul 9 @ 12:00 PM ET
You had us in the first half.
- Feds91Stammer

haha even though we lost Letang I thought we played pretty well as a team defensively. Good enough for another cup. Schultz was at his best. Hainsey and Daley were veteran additions that worked for this short run. Dumoulin and Mattaa were reliable (kind of).
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jul 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
haha even though we lost Letang I thought we played pretty well as a team defensively. Good enough for another cup. Schultz was at his best. Hainsey and Daley were veteran additions that worked for this short run. Dumoulin and Mattaa were reliable (kind of).
- Barnaby36


We were caved in our own zone hemorrhaging chances quite a bit, especially series 1, 2 and 4. More so the 1st two series. The 3rd series (Sens) had the 1-3-1 Guy Boucher system, which is somewhat conservative in nature when it comes to forechecking, to battle against. Took until 2nd OT of game 7 to win that series.

Lights out goaltending and extremely opportunistic scoring/sky high shooting %'s were the factors that got us to the promise land in 2017. Its not a sustainable winning way of hockey and just the fact it lasted 4 series has a bit of luck to it for sure hahah
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Jul 9 @ 4:31 PM ET
We were caved in our own zone hemorrhaging chances quite a bit, especially series 1, 2 and 4. More so the 1st two series. The 3rd series (Sens) had the 1-3-1 Guy Boucher system, which is somewhat conservative in nature when it comes to forechecking, to battle against. Took until 2nd OT of game 7 to win that series.

Lights out goaltending and extremely opportunistic scoring/sky high shooting %'s were the factors that got us to the promise land in 2017. Its not a sustainable winning way of hockey and just the fact it lasted 4 series has a bit of luck to it for sure hahah

- MattStrat

Desperation>Corsi in the playoffs. A “high danger scoring chance” isn’t high danger when you just get your stick on puck at the last second. In 17 teams weren’t able to match the Pens desperation. That and everything you said, but more that.
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