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Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 9 @ 12:49 PM ET
That's why I am starting to think the Flyers are trading TK, because paying a 2nd line RW $8M+ for 7-8 years just does not make sense, even if the team was not rebuilding.
- jd250


I thought TK was a guy you build a team around?

mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 12:51 PM ET
I assume the Caps need to do something to get cap compliant before the season starts. They are $13mil over and only have Backstrom's $9.2mil to put on LTIR. Oshie seems like the logical guy to move.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 9 @ 12:58 PM ET
Nice article comparing Briere and Hextall as gm of the Flyers... good read.

https://brotherlypuck.com...nd-danny-briere-rebuilds/
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
Nice article comparing Briere and Hextall as gm of the Flyers... good read.

https://brotherlypuck.com...nd-danny-briere-rebuilds/

- TheFreak


I had to stop reading for a second after the "baffling swap of the 32nd pick" honestly. That was a good move for Danny IMO.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
I had to stop reading for a second after the "baffling swap of the 32nd pick" honestly. That was a good move for Danny IMO.
- Flyfly


Certainly wasn't baffling.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
Certainly wasn't baffling.
- mickel25


Agreed - it was a good move. At worst you are picking at the same position in a much deeper draft.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
Nice article comparing Briere and Hextall as gm of the Flyers... good read.

https://brotherlypuck.com...nd-danny-briere-rebuilds/

- TheFreak


Hear Hear!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
I had to stop reading for a second after the "baffling swap of the 32nd pick" honestly. That was a good move for Danny IMO.
- Flyfly



That's too bad because everything else was dead on accurate.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 9 @ 1:11 PM ET
Where is Hunter McDonald?
- StepfordSam

He will see NHL time this season is my prediction. rightly or wrongly. T
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
That's too bad because everything else was dead on accurate.
- MBFlyerfan


I read the whole thing and agree w/ most of it. In my post I said I stopped reading for a second...

2024 was pretty much a lost year in the "rebuild" other than having MM come over. Anyone that thought or thinks this is a rebuild are just moronic fan/shills for the Flyers. Once again we are punting to another season.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:16 PM ET
That's too bad because everything else was dead on accurate.
- MBFlyerfan


Unfortunately, I think the results will be all to similar. Middling team with a good but not great pipeline and a team that will not make prudent decisions regarding veteran players.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
That's too bad because everything else was dead on accurate.
- MBFlyerfan

"being choosing big oafs with low ceilings "

here comes cliff in 5 minutes to defend.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
Poehling has not come close to proving he is better than Laughton.
- MJL


Statistically they were probably the two most similar forwards on the team last season. Laughton scored more on special teams, while Poehling had much better goals against results at 5on5.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

Laughton
11:52 per game at 5on5
1.36 P/60 at 5on5
3.27 GA/60 at 5on5 (worst out of all Flyer forwards > 100 TOI)
48.9% faceoffs
5 PPP
8 SHP

Poehling
12:08 per game at 5on5
1.28 P/60 at 5on5
2.69 GA/60
49.2% faceoffs
2 PPP
4 SHP
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Jul 9 @ 1:23 PM ET
I had to stop reading for a second after the "baffling swap of the 32nd pick" honestly. That was a good move for Danny IMO.
- Flyfly


I liked that trade..I think they will end up with a better player at the end of it all. The rest of the article was pretty spot on though.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
I liked that trade..I think they will end up with a better player at the end of it all. The rest of the article was pretty spot on though.
- TheFreak


agree on both!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
I don't have high expectations for the Edmonton pick, which was the Giroux pick from Florida. Waiting three plus years to get the return when you're heading into your 5th straight season of missing the playoffs is not a great look.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:28 PM ET
Statistically they were probably the two most similar forwards on the team last season. Laughton scored more on special teams, while Poehling had much better goals against results at 5on5.

https://www.naturalstattr...ines=single&draftteam=ALL

Laughton
11:52 per game at 5on5
1.36 P/60 at 5on5
3.27 GA/60 at 5on5 (worst out of all Flyer forwards > 100 TOI)
48.9% faceoffs
5 PPP
8 SHP

Poehling
12:08 per game at 5on5
1.28 P/60 at 5on5
2.69 GA/60
49.2% faceoffs
2 PPP
4 SHP

- Feanor


In my opinion Laughton should not be playing center. He is best on the wing. So I think comparing them as centers should favor Poehling at least a little bit. That said neither player was great 5 on 5. I would take Laughton over Poehling if I was a GM.

Laughton on the wing > Poehling at center
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:32 PM ET
Poehling is younger and cheaper and center is a more important position.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 9 @ 1:33 PM ET
😆
- Pelle31Forever


Hilarious. Especially since the events are charity fundraisers and the Alumni board members are not paid a single cent for their time and work.

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
Nice article comparing Briere and Hextall as gm of the Flyers... good read.

https://brotherlypuck.com...nd-danny-briere-rebuilds/

- TheFreak


The draft comparison is pretty bad. So far the Flyers have got York, Brink and Foerster as actual NHL players out the Flahr drafts. It's almost certain Michkov will be a good NHL player, but that's not true of any of the rest of them. It would not be a shock at all if players like Bonk and Luchanko flame out the way Rubtsov and O'Brien did.

mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Jul 9 @ 1:43 PM ET
Poehling is younger and cheaper and center is a more important position.
- Feanor


4th line centers are a dime a dozen.


WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:44 PM ET
I assume the Caps need to do something to get cap compliant before the season starts. They are $13mil over and only have Backstrom's $9.2mil to put on LTIR. Oshie seems like the logical guy to move.
- mickel25


I thought I read somewhere that oshue is going to have surgery that may prevent him from playing next season.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
4th line centers are a dime a dozen.
- mickel25


Good thing the Flyers have three of them!
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
Another example of how someone in the media posts something and you start to believe it.
- MJL

Do you really need to make stupid and confrontational comments like this? You just embarrass yourself when you do this.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 9 @ 1:49 PM ET
Are you already moving off of the belief you stated just a short time ago?

Solid logic there by Briere.

- MJL

What are you talking about? You are posting like Biden now.
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